Mob targets temples, gurdwaras in Pak over alleged blasphemy

[xyxmt]

I am not talking about your dreams but the reality.

so you dreams are reality, acha sain baba chal jasey tu khush

 

[Areesh]

Are you saying hindus in pakistan are bhookas and nangas? Though we know, your saying just vindicate it.

Once they would leave all their property and wealth in Pakistan they would soon become bhooka nanga. Common sense my man.

 

[MKI 30]

Sick Nation Pakistan is. Just look how these hypocrites react when something happens to Kashmiris. Stop worrying about Kashmiris you incompetent hypocrites and save your minorities from extremist.

 

[Areesh]

Hindus never get killed in thousand unlike Muslims in India, so no they will survive but the question is will Muslim survive in Idia once the mass murderer becomes prime murderer

True. Well said.

Yes he accepts that.

He should set an example by changing his name to Hassan Nisar Kumar.

 

[jarves]

so you dreams are reality, acha sain baba chal jasey tu khush

Rofl i can easily judge your intellectual level by reading your signature.

 

[PoKeMon]

Once they would leave all their property and wealth in Pakistan they would soon become bhooka nanga. Common sense my man.

Why not selling them out and come rich?

 

[HariPrasad]

True. Well said.



He should set an example by changing his name to Hassan Nisar Kumar.

Well it is up to him. I see many Pakistani friends agreeing with my and Mr. Nisar's point of view. Nobody has changed his name inspite of being endorsing the Hindu ancestry view.

 

[ranjeet]

Hindus never get killed in thousand unlike Muslims in India, so no they will survive but the question is will Muslim survive in Idia once the mass murderer becomes prime murderer

Please worry about your minorities .... now even Shias are being counted among them.

 

[xyxmt]

Rofl i can easily judge your intellectual level by reading your signature.

you can even judge it better if you get close very close, even closer and try to read whats written between my butt cheeks.

by the way all dumbooos give the same reason when they get speechless, Angoor khutey hain

 

[jarves]

by the way all dumbooos give the same reason when they get speechless, Angoor khutey hain

Dont bother quoting me next time when all you have to do is passing sarcastic comments without basic knowledge of things although i can reply in the same fashion but it wont take a second to you for crying infront of the moderators.

 

[Zaryanshah]

Expulsion of local Hindus is not the solution.

Converting them to Islam or killing them off are the only two real solutions to this problem.

The Shafi'i and Hanbali school of thoughts advocate forced conversions and the death penalty on Hindus, Buddhists and all other religious groups who are not from the People of the Book (i.e Christians and /or Jews). Only Jews and Christians are allowed to practise their religion on an Islamic state according to these two schools of thought. As long as they pay jizya in subjugation, do not make public displays of their faith and keep away from Muslim and Muslim localities.

However the Hanafi and Maliki schools of thought give Hindus and other religious groups the same rights as Jews and Christians. This is why India remained a Hindu country and the Hindus were taxed jizya and not killed under the reign of Aurangzeb.

Pakistan should adopt the Shafi'i or Hanbali school of thought and be rid of this Hindu problem once and for all. Hindus should either revert to the natural deen or face the guillotines. India won't be an option.

Some friends say that whoever does not enter Islam, that is his choice and he should not be forced to become Muslim, quoting as evidence the verses in which Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And had your Lord willed, those on earth would have believed, all of them together. So, will you (O Muhammad) then compel mankind, until they become believers”
[Yoonus 10:99]
“There is no compulsion in religion”
[al-Baqarah 2:256]
What is your opinion concerning that?.

Praise be to Allaah.


The scholars explained that these two verses, and other similar verses, have to do with those from whom the jizyah may be taken, such as Jews, Christians and Magians (Zoroastrians). They are not to be forced, rather they are to be given the choice between becoming Muslim or paying the jizyah.

Other scholars said that this applied in the beginning, but was subsequently abrogated by Allaah’s command to fight and wage jihad. So whoever refuses to enter Islam should be fought when the Muslims are able to fight, until they either enter Islam or pay the jizyah if they are among the people who may pay jizyah. The kuffaar should be compelled to enter Islam if they are not people from whom the jizyah may be taken, because that will lead to their happiness and salvation in this world and in the Hereafter. Obliging a person to adhere to the truth in which is guidance and happiness is better for him than falsehood. Just as a person may be forced to do the duty that he owes to other people even if that is by means of imprisonment or beating, so forcing the kaafirs to believe in Allaah alone and enter into the religion of Islam is more important and more essential, because this will lead to their happiness in this world and in the Hereafter. This applies unless they are People of the Book, i.e., Jews and Christians, or Magians, because Islam says that these three groups may be given the choice: they may enter Islam or they may pay the jizyah and feel themselves subdued.

Some of the scholars are of the view that others may also be given the choice between Islam and jizyah, but the most correct view is that no others should be given this choice, rather these three groups are the only ones who may be given the choice, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) fought the kuffaar in the Arabian Peninsula and he only accepted their becoming Muslim. And Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“But if they repent [by rejecting Shirk (polytheism) and accept Islamic Monotheism] and perform As-Salaah (Iqaamat-as-Salaah), and give Zakaah, then leave their way free. Verily, Allaah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful”

[al-Tawbah 9:5]

He did not say, “if they pay the jizyah”. The Jews, Christians and Magians are to be asked to enter Islam; if they refuse then they should be asked to pay the jizyah. If they refuse to pay the jizyah then the Muslims must fight them if they are able to do so. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allaah, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allaah and His Messenger (Muhammad), (4) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued”

[al-Tawbah 9:29]

And it was proven that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) accepted the jizyah from the Magians, but it was not proven that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) or his companions (may Allaah be pleased with them) accepted the jizyah from anyone except the three groups mentioned above.

The basic principle concerning that is the words of Allaah (interpretation of the meaning):

“And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism, i.e. worshipping others besides Allaah), and the religion (worship) will all be for Allaah Alone [in the whole of the world]”

[al-Anfaal 8:39]

“Then when the Sacred Months (the 1st, 7th, 11th, and 12th months of the Islamic calendar) have passed, then kill the Mushrikoon (see V.2:105) wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush. But if they repent [by rejecting Shirk (polytheism) and accept Islamic Monotheism] and perform As-Salaah (Iqaamat-as-Salaah), and give Zakaah, then leave their way free. Verily, Allaah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful”

[al-Tawbah 9:5]

This verse is known as Ayat al-Sayf (the verse of the sword).

These and similar verses abrogate the verses which say that there is no compulsion to become Muslim.

And Allaah is the Source of strength.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Ridiculous attitude.

Expulsion of local Hindus is not the solution.

Converting them to Islam or killing them off are the only two real solutions to this problem.

The Shafi'i and Hanbali school of thoughts advocate forced conversions and the death penalty on Hindus, Buddhists and all other religious groups who are not from the People of the Book (i.e Christians and /or Jews). Only Jews and Christians are allowed to practise their religion on an Islamic state according to these two schools of thought. As long as they pay jizya in subjugation, do not make public displays of their faith and keep away from Muslim and Muslim localities.

However the Hanafi and Maliki schools of thought give Hindus and other religious groups the same rights as Jews and Christians. This is why India remained a Hindu country and the Hindus were taxed jizya and not killed under the reign of Aurangzeb.

Pakistan should adopt the Shafi'i or Hanbali school of thought and be rid of this Hindu problem once and for all. Hindus should either revert to the natural deen or face the guillotines. India won't be an option.

Some friends say that whoever does not enter Islam, that is his choice and he should not be forced to become Muslim, quoting as evidence the verses in which Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And had your Lord willed, those on earth would have believed, all of them together. So, will you (O Muhammad) then compel mankind, until they become believers”
[Yoonus 10:99]
“There is no compulsion in religion”
[al-Baqarah 2:256]
What is your opinion concerning that?.

Praise be to Allaah.


The scholars explained that these two verses, and other similar verses, have to do with those from whom the jizyah may be taken, such as Jews, Christians and Magians (Zoroastrians). They are not to be forced, rather they are to be given the choice between becoming Muslim or paying the jizyah.

Other scholars said that this applied in the beginning, but was subsequently abrogated by Allaah’s command to fight and wage jihad. So whoever refuses to enter Islam should be fought when the Muslims are able to fight, until they either enter Islam or pay the jizyah if they are among the people who may pay jizyah. The kuffaar should be compelled to enter Islam if they are not people from whom the jizyah may be taken, because that will lead to their happiness and salvation in this world and in the Hereafter. Obliging a person to adhere to the truth in which is guidance and happiness is better for him than falsehood. Just as a person may be forced to do the duty that he owes to other people even if that is by means of imprisonment or beating, so forcing the kaafirs to believe in Allaah alone and enter into the religion of Islam is more important and more essential, because this will lead to their happiness in this world and in the Hereafter. This applies unless they are People of the Book, i.e., Jews and Christians, or Magians, because Islam says that these three groups may be given the choice: they may enter Islam or they may pay the jizyah and feel themselves subdued.

Some of the scholars are of the view that others may also be given the choice between Islam and jizyah, but the most correct view is that no others should be given this choice, rather these three groups are the only ones who may be given the choice, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) fought the kuffaar in the Arabian Peninsula and he only accepted their becoming Muslim. And Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“But if they repent [by rejecting Shirk (polytheism) and accept Islamic Monotheism] and perform As-Salaah (Iqaamat-as-Salaah), and give Zakaah, then leave their way free. Verily, Allaah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful”

[al-Tawbah 9:5]

He did not say, “if they pay the jizyah”. The Jews, Christians and Magians are to be asked to enter Islam; if they refuse then they should be asked to pay the jizyah. If they refuse to pay the jizyah then the Muslims must fight them if they are able to do so. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allaah, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allaah and His Messenger (Muhammad), (4) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued”

[al-Tawbah 9:29]

And it was proven that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) accepted the jizyah from the Magians, but it was not proven that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) or his companions (may Allaah be pleased with them) accepted the jizyah from anyone except the three groups mentioned above.

The basic principle concerning that is the words of Allaah (interpretation of the meaning):

“And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism, i.e. worshipping others besides Allaah), and the religion (worship) will all be for Allaah Alone [in the whole of the world]”

[al-Anfaal 8:39]

“Then when the Sacred Months (the 1st, 7th, 11th, and 12th months of the Islamic calendar) have passed, then kill the Mushrikoon (see V.2:105) wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush. But if they repent [by rejecting Shirk (polytheism) and accept Islamic Monotheism] and perform As-Salaah (Iqaamat-as-Salaah), and give Zakaah, then leave their way free. Verily, Allaah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful”

[al-Tawbah 9:5]

This verse is known as Ayat al-Sayf (the verse of the sword).

These and similar verses abrogate the verses which say that there is no compulsion to become Muslim.

And Allaah is the Source of strength.

You know what'll happen if India took the same attitude towards it's minorities? This is a sure fire way to burn your country.

 

[Zaryanshah]

Ridiculous attitude.




You know what'll happen if India took the same attitude towards it's minorities? This is a sure fire way to burn your country.

What will happen towards the Muslims of India, has already been written by Allah. If he has decreed death for them then no power in the world can stop that from happening. And if he has written safety for them no one will be able to touch them.

And I do not care if you find it ridiculous or disgusting. These are the rules of God and no human can dare challenge these laws.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

What will happen towards the Muslims of India, has already been written by Allah. If he has decreed death for them then no power in the world can stop that from happening. And if he has written safety for them no one will be able to touch them.

And I do not care if you find it ridiculous or disgusting. These are the rules of God and no human can dare challenge these laws.

Becuase you say so.....?

 

[jatt+gutts]

Its not South Asia it happens every where same reaction is shown by Muslims all around the world no matter from what ethnicity they belong the moment you abuse or insult HAZRAT MUHAMMAD SAW their are really very high chances that if you are around Muslims either you will get killed or really badly hurt

tell me if your god is real and great then howcome you guys believe he will get hurt by some person saying badwords about him. y this insecurity.