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Manvantaratruti
I am sorry to answer you while you are suspended but then again, it was none of my doing and likely some of yours so ...
You end your reply to my post thus :
"Thank you for sharing your opinions on politicians and your condescending advice. Now get back to delivering on your promise."
This will almost be enough to show how vindictive, nationalist and unnecessarily childish you rant was.
I did share an opinion, yes, but in noway was condescending? I meant that for most politicians from
all lands? You obviously think your nation above others as many calls in that reply showed? I don't! I think all countries have their right to existence as long as they give the same respect to all others!
It is in that view that i look at the mechanics of how these nations manage their relations. As I pointed in that last post, it includes recognizing at times the faults of my own?
This said, when an erroneous statement is made, I can correct or comment it as you can for Pakistan defence is an open fair forum?
Such as your opening answer to my remark about the Martin-Baker ejection seat : "Not our problem!"
Do you realize how childish that is? Nagging and stomping your foot for a right which will never be yours ( To get/own foreign tech not for sale ), while disregarding that you will get the best product on the market ( MartinBaker seat ) even if not covered by ToT?
And if that last sounds condescending, now it may be right but you have earned it!
I hope you can understand it nonetheless and come back in better spirit later.
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Dash,
I do trust that story to be true, sadly! Then again, remember the poor Brits? Fully committed to the Lightning II only to learn that major partner and closest ally or not, the source codes to make it work was not to be theirs? Every darn country/maker plays that commercial imperative card.
I mean the whole PAK-FA FGFA imbroglio with the Russians for you guys is rapidly looking less & less fair play too, isn't it? More money but less say?
What can I say, mate, enough money ( & power ) corrupts even the purest?
I congratulate heartily any nation that gets its money's worth enough in such deals to move on to autonomous production and design. For instance, I don't think all that much of the TEJAS but it is only a first try. Let it absorb the growing pains and move on to the next level later? Who's to say the next one won't be a marvel.
Similarly, if Pakistan's engineers have learned enough from the Thunder co-production, maybe the next development could come in-house. I'm old enough to know you have to learn properly before doing properly or just keep doing a half-azzed job?
France for instance was building planes in the 19th century so no great wonder we got the hang of it by now?
The contrary would be darn sad, huh? Heck, mister Dassault the original had begun doing so before his stint in the Nazi death camps? The Mirage family was not his first attempt straight out of school?
Anyhow, enough off-topic, good day all, Tay.
That's exactly what I told you.
... let us not pretend otherwise. 
