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Mitsubishi flies Japan's first ever passenger jet

There is 407 orders taken by this aircraft, Surprisingly same time with the completion of China C919 and Indonesian N 219 (not yet flying) , Three of them will try to get passenger aircraft market.
 
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Well Xi has it figured out with a 747.
When the C939 or C949 is ready, but he can also take a modified Y-20 (available soon) as his presidential plane.

However, a cargo aircraft is not as graceful as a jetliner, it is like to drive a truck instead of a sedan.

China has no special presidential plane. The plane is requisitioned temporarily from China International Airlines. About one month before the visit to the foreign countries, the selected plane from the fleet of B747s in operation will be modified specially.
 
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Glad to know we agree on this paradigm, bro.

Technically, you cannot modify a Cargo Plane into passenger transport. Well, let me rephrase this, you can modify any cargo plane for Passenger Airliner, but it will end up better off designing a new planes just for this purpose.

Cargo Flight and Passenger Flight have two distinct different. The center of gravity of the plane and the structural dynamic of the plane.

Cargo Plane have an empty hull, basically the center of gravity is on the dead center of the plane, and while passenger flight would normally tilted forward or backward because of the Passenger Compartment and Cargo Compartment as well as Fuel Storage and avionic.

Cargo Flight also have flight characteristic design to take heavy loading, meaning harder suspension and stronger tyre. And the braking can also be hard as you can shake the cargo violently but you cannot shake your passenger violently.

Basically, without talking about a whole lot of Avionic, Flight and Aerodynamic. If you want to use a Cargo Plane and use it as a passenger jet liner, unless you don't change anything and basically without anything in it, you will then need to move the center of gravity (mean redesigning the flight line) to offset the weight you added (Toilet, Cabin, insulation, Pressurization equipment, Fire Proof Bulkhead and stuff like that) And then y ou have to replace suspension, engine, brake, ailerons, flap, stabiliser, actuator and tyres for flight comfort and new aerodynamic result from the change of gravity.

Or you have your president ride on an unmodified Y-20, that's like have the President of the United States transported by a C-17 everywhere....lol
 
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I am interested to know more about the engine, which says 20% better fuel efficiency and lower noise levels. Any more details welcome to share, thanks.

Material tech, machining, are among some of Japan's leading expertise, and are critical to developing geared turbofan (GTF) engine. In the long run any jet engine from Japanese companies will be considered on MRJ?

In my own opinion, with solid tech/industrial foundation as mentioned above, and the depth of involvement in supply chain so far, there is no doubt Japan can make hi-performance GTF. However just like supercomputer (Fujitsu/NEC/Hitachi vs IBM/Cray/HP; Note the "Cray Era" from 1982 was by Steve Chen, a Taiwanese, designer of X-MP and Y-MP), missile tech (Mitsubishi's "behind-the-scene" involvement in Patriot SM3), etc., I believe US and Japan have reached a concensus that Japan shall remain positions in the supply chain of GTF as well, what's your view?
I believe the plane use Prat and Whitney engine?

There is 407 orders taken by this aircraft, Surprisingly same time with the completion of China C919 and Indonesian N 219 (not yet flying) , Three of them will try to get passenger aircraft market.
The C919 and the Japanese one are two different category of airplanes
 
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Actually, the RP president most use PH Airlines with a certain flight code... though the PH Airlines had phased out its 747-400 fleet. This aircraft, judging the length, is too small for long-range flight.

Anyways, I wonder if this aircraft can be modified for military use, like for communications, electronic warfare (once the PH Airforce gains the capability for this) or maritime patrol missions.

Ya but am talking about the Fokker plane we have that is over 40 years needs to be replace and this jet could be a good candidate
 
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Ya but am talking about the Fokker plane we have that is over 40 years needs to be replace and this jet could be a good candidate

You mean the Fokker F28 "Fellowship"? Well this Mitsubishi aircraft is good for short-range travel and may be a good candidate, as there is a chance that the replacement aircraft for that could come from Boeing or Airbus.
 
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As in a medium sized bomber? :]

He he he he!

More like Airborne Early Warning
Like the Gulfstream G550 version used by both Israel and Singapore


I am pretty sure the MRJ can be modified like that as well
 
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I believe the plane use Prat and Whitney engine?


The C919 and the Japanese one are two different category of airplanes

Yup, I know mate, I have seen the thread for C919
 
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You mean the Fokker F28 "Fellowship"? Well this Mitsubishi aircraft is good for short-range travel and may be a good candidate, as there is a chance that the replacement aircraft for that could come from Boeing or Airbus.

Well ya obviously! its the only plane in the Philippines owned by the Presidential airlift. Sure maybe in the near future but am baking more on the Airbus
 
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You think the interior will not be modify like a luxurious yacht for president use? o_O

In case of emergency, it can landed in little prepared runway unlike commercial plane. Safe and strong plane.

You are just beng sarcastic right?o_O

Coming to topic, it's indeed commendable to see Japan finally joining western countries in building its own commercial plane. I dont see why @Beast is makng fun of this plane as being a U.S/western plane . I would have expected someone like him to be the last person to make fun of Japan in this field, as his own country isnt any better either, since even the ARJ and most of the C919's critical systems including engines and avionics are being supplied by Western companies or foreign-Chinese joint ventures. So why make fun of another country when you are no better? Its not like you have ever built a commercial jet liner of this size that is operational with any airline in your own country much less abroad. :what:
Guess your anti-japanese sentiment trumps even common sense/reason. :disagree:

Anyway, congrats to Japan. @Nihonjin1051 what engine (which is said to be very efficient) does this plane use?, since thats the most critical part of any plane.
 
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