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Mission Balakot: IAF pilots paced all night, smoked cigarettes in fear of PAF

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What really intrigues me is that over the last decade and a half, the IAF held a number of exercises with the Singapore, Oman and UAE air forces ... all of whom operate the F-16. And the Indian members have been bragging for more than a decade how the IAF was going to make short work of the PAF in case of a conflict. They knew what the F-16 was all about and didn't consider it much of a threat.

To be honest, on paper their claims usually seemed to hold some water.

But Feb'27 showed that exercises don't mitigate the gaps in actual performance parameters of AAM's. Because in exercises all missile shots are simulated based on paper performance parameters.

Coupled with that the overwhelming evidence that the IAF have not been able to master their assets and device a fighting plan that can take the full potential of those assets and put them to maximum utilization in inflicting losses to the adversary.

Quite a big bag of wind has been deflated.

PS

The IAF is now addressing these very issues and working things out to get the right results in the future. But that turn around is going to take time and not going to happen over night. We should utilize that spell of time to further sharpen our skills and employ even better tactics and strategies so that we can maintain the edge and not let things slip away in complacency.

We must NOT forget how quickly India overcame her shortcomings after her defeat in the 1962 war against China and was able to hold on against Pakistani assault in 1965 and take unfair advantage in 1971. So if we do have some advantage over IAF, it will quickly diminish with upcoming acquisitions by IAF.
 
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You seem to be the one having pain.



Pain?

no.

gleeful

Yes.


PS.........i taught you were gone?...

what happened?

like the IAF perhaps you want another shot at us with more raffle draw fighters...

kind of like this south indian lady who believes in stronger underwear to prevent rape...likewise IAF dudes who believe in more rafeles would help in avoiding your arse handed to you on a plate..




 
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What embellishment. Go and read what was written in NDTV. And indian f16s? Lol... and you are talking about fiction etc. All you think you are doing is insulting india but in reality brings out your frustrations after your f16 was downed .its ok. Go to your your rooftop shout out loud abuses on india and Hinduism. Don't have to do it here keep it all you mental injuries bottled up.
you can't have both ways buddy we have all 5 payload 2x r-77 , 2x r-73 & 1x fuel tank either you can have its all from abhi none done mig (which is proved by various photos on PDF) or no he fired the missile our EW jammed him and got blown up by our strike package and next set of missile is from su-30 which we also destroyed.
 
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I used, on the 27 feb,the same deo i use since several months, but strange thing is that only those indians families run away like a gangbanged prostitute who had not been paid since the 27 feb. No other neighbors run away, they enjoy to invite us for dinner at their house, they enjoy to come whenever we invite them. And if we forget to invite them they ask us :
Hey when are you inviting me ? I want to eat byriani !

Oh yes that’s the reason : indians have been gangbanged on the 27 feb.


I will add that few days after the 27 feb, all others neighbors asked me why they run whenever they saw me. I explained them what happened between india and Pakistan. I told them to not talk about that wit the indians, but hey they couldn’t resist so the asked them about the late feb. And guess what, even those people seem to not use deo anymore for indians. No need to insult those indians, my neighbors are doing it wonderfully. Especially since i shown them how you indians lot are behaving on Defense.pk !

I don’t want to add more, you could have heart fart.
I defer to your expertise on prostitutes. But do use stronger Deo. Maybe even brush your teeth. Who knows the next time you are mowing the lawn for your Indian neighbors, you might even get a tip.
 
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I defer to your expertise on prostitutes. But do use stronger Deo. Maybe even brush your teeth. Who knows the next time you are mowing the lawn for your Indian neighbors, you might even get a tip.

My expertise on prostitutes is limited to what my indians collegues explained to me. After all indians are experts in gang raping. I’m just repeating that.

About Deo, im using french perfums, the most renowned perfumes in the world, if even that is not enough for those indians, then i cannot help them and it’s better, they stay away from us including my french, arabs, africans and others nationalities neighbors. Thats funny situation. Oh wait i will tell my neighbors that indians drink cow pee.
Will be more funny.


What is important to note is that how easily you disgressed on prostitutes and deo and forgot the main point of the thread.

Shows how solid are your arguments and facts.

Behaviour of Pathetic Coward Delusionned Shameless Looser who get caught with pant down trying to run away with his tail in his backhole.
 
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Yes. It's like Rafael Nadal saying "Result would have different if I had a Tecnifibre racquet instead of a Babolat" at Roland Garros. The only difference would have been in scale of the result.


Use Deo.


Yawn. Yes, except even that myth has been busted.

Sadly, for you, that isn't a myth. What do you reckon happens? A rocket fires and leaves its booster or seeker behind?

Perhaps, you would care to explain how it's a "myth," instead of bluffing here.

Criticizing others do not make yourself strong,rather your own action makes you strong....Indian public is not fool.They are happy that BJP gov initiated a task that was unthinkable in military circle suring military regime...It is not a big deal if they killed 300 or 3, rather it is more important of our IAF crossed your airspace and came back without being targetted.And on top of that it shows the weakness of Pakistan that you are not ready to prolong a military fight with India even if you got reason to extend the war...This mindset of Pakistan is enough for us to understand where each country stand militarily....
In a war, showing a peace initive when you are not in strong wicket isba sign of weakness not a strength.If Pakistan would not have returned pilot then i could have argued that Pakistan is ready to fight long war to win Kashmir....But unfortunately, IK is smart and he returend our pilot.

Oh, okay, how long before India "takes back" Kashmir then? Any day now, right? I mean it is certain that we are scared to the bone and unable to retaliate.

Indian Jets crossed over to Pakistan, on 26th and on 27th. PAF jets didn’t cross boundary even once. Such articles won’t stop Indian Forces next time when they visit Pakistan. I am just wondering what next action Indian commanders are planning. Till then let such articles be written.

The sole reason that Pakistan didn't cross LOC, (your media said it did although our ISPR made it clear on very first day), was fo demonstrate what a show IAF was trying to put up.

And I said it since day 1 too. It's the 21st century, installments are right across and next to the border. Technology is advanced. Ranges go above 50-100 km. You don't need to cross the border to begin with.

Then why is pak claiming that they downed sukhoi?

That's not an official claim. If you ascertain the facts, and only the facts. The toll stands clear.

A Mig-21 bison shot down. And a IAF Mil downed in friendly fire.

That's a 2 - 0, there's icing to that too with air strikes indeed occuring, and a pilot being captured.
 
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Sadly, for you, that isn't a myth. What do you reckon happens? A rocket fires and leaves its booster or seeker behind?

Perhaps, you would care to explain how it's a "myth," instead of bluffing here.



Oh, okay, how long before India "takes back" Kashmir then? Any day now, right? I mean it is certain that we are scared to the bone and unable to retaliate.



The sole reason that Pakistan didn't cross LOC, (your media said it did although our ISPR made it clear on very first day), was fo demonstrate what a show IAF was trying to put up.

And I said it since day 1 too. It's the 21st century, installments are right across and next to the border. Technology is advanced. Ranges go above 50-100 km. You don't need to cross the border to begin with.



That's not an official claim. If you ascertain the facts, and only the facts. The toll stands clear.

A Mig-21 bison shot down. And a IAF Mil downed in friendly fire.

That's a 2 - 0, there's icing to that too with air strikes indeed occuring, and a pilot being captured.
What is an official claim
 
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Wait.. we gave proof.. then you said that they are not good enough.. then u make exact same claim.about sukhoi without proof. My question is 2nd plane was downed.. sukhoi or f16 ? We gave radar related evidence of f16. Pak did not.

You do realize that what IAF showed is not an actual radar feed, right? It's a trace at best. Worst, it isn't even a live picture, it's two shots, and since it's a trace with clear editing to snap out a lot of other stuff, there's no way to even verify authenticity.

It's far from evidence. Let's suppose if it is even true, let's suppose. Kashmir is a mountainous region, the jet can at any time evade Radars because radar cannot penetrate through mountains - fun fact.

But if you want to act dumb like IAF leadership then I can too.
The F-16 went into clouds which is why it disappeared. Happy?

What is an official claim

One put on public record by an official representative. Can't believe I am giving this definition. Thanks for not ignoring me for once, may be even better if you don't ignore rest of the answer. Thanks.
 
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You do realize that what IAF showed is not an actual radar feed, right? It's a trace at best. Worst, it isn't even a live picture, it's two shots, and since it's a trace with clear editing to snap out a lot of other stuff, there's no way to even verify authenticity.

It's far from evidence. Let's suppose if it is even true, let's suppose. Kashmir is a mountainous region, the jet can at any time evade Radars because radar cannot penetrate through mountains - fun fact.

But if you want to act dumb like IAF leadership then I can too.
The F-16 went into clouds which is why it disappeared. Happy?
So provide the path of that f16

You do realize that what IAF showed is not an actual radar feed, right? It's a trace at best. Worst, it isn't even a live picture, it's two shots, and since it's a trace with clear editing to snap out a lot of other stuff, there's no way to even verify authenticity.

It's far from evidence. Let's suppose if it is even true, let's suppose. Kashmir is a mountainous region, the jet can at any time evade Radars because radar cannot penetrate through mountains - fun fact.

But if you want to act dumb like IAF leadership then I can too.
The F-16 went into clouds which is why it disappeared. Happy?



One put on public record by an official representative. Can't believe I am giving this definition. Thanks for not ignoring me for once, may be even better if you don't ignore rest of the answer. Thanks.
Cant believe you cant understand sarcasm. Anyways if you say that Su is not downed then surely something was. If not jf16 or Su the jf17?
 
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So provide the path of that f16

Burden of evidence lies on India who claimed it. Secondly, we don't need to because a F-16 being shot down has already been disproved, unfortunately you did not bother to read my answer but I will repeat. Thirdly, there were many F-16 in air, so which one?

- IAF claims that Abhinandans Mig shot down F-16. You can analyse HD video online of wreckage and find parts of all 4 missiles in the wreckage. It's not a myth. The HD video of wreckage is literally on YouTube, you can go see it and analyse although PDF admins did it as well and put them up in a thread.

- A defence analyst, from the USA with links in Pentagon and Aviation including Air Force (how many guests have privilege of flying in a F-18 Tomcat?), who has no stakes in this conflict, wrote an article in a premier News Agency which focuses on international politics and arms, Foreign Policy, that no F-16 was ultimately missing from Pakistan's armament.

What more do you need?

So provide the path of that f16


Cant believe you cant understand sarcasm. Anyways if you say that Su is not downed then surely something was. If not jf16 or Su the jf17?

Not necessarily, it's based on radar feed. There are signatures, which identify the jets. You cannot mistake a Sukhoi for a JF-17. Ultimately, Kashmir is a mountainous region, and PAF as well as IAF had electronic warfare planes in the sky. Ultimately, both sides could evade radar.

Cant believe you cant understand sarcasm.

What's sarcastic or even remotely humorous about "What is an official claim?"
 
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I can smell a bollywood movie here......ops room filled with smoke and the hero pacing around the room.....
 
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According to NDTV, Indian Air Force (IAF) pilots who were tasked to carry out strikes in Balakot were so terrified of the mission that they couldn’t sleep the night before. They paced a lot and smoked loads of cigarettes.

NDTV claims it spoke to the pilots who were part of the IAF squadron that was tasked to carry out strikes in Pakistan.

“We smoked a lot of cigarettes before the mission,” said a young Squadron Leader. “We kept pacing up and down once we knew what our mission was.”

According to the ISPR, Indian jets came into Pakistani airspace on February 26 and dropped their payload to flee once the PAF jets scrambled.

The next day, PAF fighter jets shot down two Indian Jets and captured Indian pilot Abhinandan Varthaman.

“The entire operation took approximately two-and-a-half hours,” said another squadron leader while talking to NDTV.

The pilots claimed that they had launched five of the six Spice 2000 satellite-guided missile bombs at the alleged JeM facility. They said that they were unable to fire the Crystal Maze missile due to a low hanging cloud.

One of the pilots claimed that his jet had crossed 8 kilometers into Pakistani airspace to launch the strike. He said that the squadron was concerned about a PAF response.

Though the two pilots NDTV spoke to did not pick up a Pakistani interceptor on their radars, they were alerted to the presence of at least one Pakistani jet flying towards the Indian formation by the airborne warning aircraft coordinating the IAF’s attack.

India claims (despite evidence to the contrary) that it launched air strikes in Balakot at a Jaish-e-Muhammad (JeM) terrorist facility, resulting in the deaths of 600 militants.

Pakistan rejected Indian claims and even invited foreign journalists and diplomats to the site in Balakot where the alleged strike took place.

The pilots said that once they returned to their base in India, they still couldn’t get over the shock and stress of the mission.

“We smoked some more cigarettes,” they said and smiled.

You can read the original article here

https://natcour.com/story/260927/iaf-pilots-paced-all-night-smoked-cigarettes-in-fear-of-paf/
Do you believe in these chutiya loog or your FM(Sushma Swaraj)

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...rike-eam-sushma-swaraj/videoshow/68949252.cms
 
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