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Misleading reports related to IAF capability and Pakistani media bravado

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What about a single front war? Would India promise to leave half of its inventory on the chinese border? :kiss3:

You have chinese to supply the weaponry, equipment and skills :kiss3:
They are doing combined military exercises with Pakistani armed forces, defence deals etc...etc..
 
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The thread is about pak media's role in propagating indian reports without due diligence
 
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Well, Indian media one day claims that IAF can fight on two fronts simultaneously, next day they seem to portray IAF incompetent to defend on a single front much less fight on two. Seems as if Indian media wants to publish what the Indian public wants to hear but then gets a rude awakening. The Commanders from both sides would reassure their people with their capabilities but at least the Pakistani media hasn't adopted the slavish attitude of their opposite number who have even gone as far as giving a breakdown of the ten Indian steps to the destruction of Pakistan. ...Bravo.

Indian media plays a very positive role as far as defence preparedness
is concerned

It keeps the pressure on the Government through non stop saturation coverage

The thread is about pak media's role in propagating indian reports without due diligence

The Pakistani media gets all bloated up by False praise and false reports
 
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Misleading reports related to IAF capability and Pakistani media bravado
Manticore

Recently a lot of reports are surfacing from India regarding its air force's acquisition problems. The Indian media is patriotic, intelligent and far sighted enough to provide its people with a false sense of insecurity so as to stress upon the government to provide necessary funds for IAF for modernization.

The Indian media conveniently leaves a lot of stats out of the report whereby giving a very gloomy and dismal outlook of the IAF's capabilities. Pakistan's media is stupid enough to take that report on face value and starts chest thumping thus playing its part in consolidating indian government's pledge for further hike in defence budget.

Just by glancing on the first page of the airforce subforum, we have two baseless threads.
''Pakistan Air Force has an edge over Indian Air Force: Indian Parliamentary panel''
''Indian Air Force faces risk as PAK, China modernise airforce: report''




Below is a graph showing different generations of aircrafts in PAF inventory. The BVR capable fighters would be the only single engine 4/4.5 generation fighter which constitutes a little over 25% of the entire fleet!

sXAiKzi.jpg





As most of PAF's fighters are over 20 years old, their crash rates are gradually
taking their toll on paf fighter aircraft numbers. A lot of fighter pilots have lost
their lives because of the age of the aircraft fleet.

The production rate of the 4rth generation bvr capable JF-17 fighter has been alarmingly slow and is a matter of great concern for the people.These aircrafts are not the cutting edge of technology, however they allow paf to retire old 2nd generation fighters and thus save the lives of its young pilots both in war and peace.

Aircraft enthusiasts also recall the Mirage 2000 saga where a very potent aircraft was not inducted due to unknown reasons. The acquisition of 4.5 generation J-10 aircraft also seems to be put on the back burner. One can only hope that the economical situation in Pakistan becomes better so we can see induction of new platforms, more F-16s and long range surface to air missiles.




The Indian Su 30MKI with a huge 1500Km combat radius is capable of deep strikes in Pakistan. It is augmented with Mig29 and Mirage2000 both of which are also latest bvr capable fighters.These make over 300 bvr capable fighters. None of the PAF aircrafts match the 200 su30 mki in their range and weapons payload capacity.

Even after the above quantitative and qualitative comparison, IAF is planning
to further induct another 126+ 4.5 generation rafale fighters not to mention
5th generation fighters like pak-fa and fgfa which will skyrocket the qualitative and quantitative edge that India already possesses. Pakistan can not afford a complete generation gap in capability and might need to induct 5th generation fighters at the same pace as India as you cant bring a knife in a gun fight.That would translate into the chinese J31 induction in paf. It's cost and capability remains to be seen.

In the past 7 years, PAF has inducted AWACS, Air refuelers and BVR platforms which is a testament to the higher ups in PAF who have infused these much needed capabilities rather quickly. PAF has maintained it's high level of training. Now Pakistan is slowly increasing the number of BVR capable aircrafts with better avionics and standoff weapons. There is a speculation that JF-17 block2 would be a much more capable platform than blk1.

This is just a request by air force enthusiasts to the Pakistani media to not to propagate Indian reports / propaganda without doing some in depth research on the matter. PAF does not have qualitative and quantitative edge over IAF.
@Manticore you over Estimating capabilities Indian Media they just fools Lack Basic Knowledge about Defense forces.I Find Many Pak channels More Mature in this Field Except Few Most of news channels in india are Trp Mongers.Each channel Divided in its own Political Factions Eventually Sometimes go to Degrade Image of the Armed Forces Just to Satisfy there Ego's there Many Instances we Indians Witnessed
 
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there is a big picture missed sometimes when military experts discuss strategy or smart laymen discuss PR wars. The two countries or even three includimng China, are close enough in geographic proximity that crude weapons crude planes are sufficient to inflict serious damage. Nuances and differences between weapon systems and planes matter but none of the three countries involved are stupid enough to believe they can afford the damage that the other can cause.
 
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Misleading reports related to IAF capability and Pakistani media bravado
Manticore

Recently a lot of reports are surfacing from India regarding its air force's acquisition problems. The Indian media is patriotic, intelligent and far sighted enough to provide its people with a false sense of insecurity so as to stress upon the government to provide necessary funds for IAF for modernization.

The Indian media conveniently leaves a lot of stats out of the report whereby giving a very gloomy and dismal outlook of the IAF's capabilities. Pakistan's media is stupid enough to take that report on face value and starts chest thumping thus playing its part in consolidating indian government's pledge for further hike in defence budget.

Just by glancing on the first page of the airforce subforum, we have two baseless threads.
''Pakistan Air Force has an edge over Indian Air Force: Indian Parliamentary panel''
''Indian Air Force faces risk as PAK, China modernise airforce: report''




Below is a graph showing different generations of aircrafts in PAF inventory. The BVR capable fighters would be the only single engine 4/4.5 generation fighter which constitutes a little over 25% of the entire fleet!

sXAiKzi.jpg





As most of PAF's fighters are over 20 years old, their crash rates are gradually
taking their toll on paf fighter aircraft numbers. A lot of fighter pilots have lost
their lives because of the age of the aircraft fleet.

The production rate of the 4rth generation bvr capable JF-17 fighter has been alarmingly slow and is a matter of great concern for the people.These aircrafts are not the cutting edge of technology, however they allow paf to retire old 2nd generation fighters and thus save the lives of its young pilots both in war and peace.

Aircraft enthusiasts also recall the Mirage 2000 saga where a very potent aircraft was not inducted due to unknown reasons. The acquisition of 4.5 generation J-10 aircraft also seems to be put on the back burner. One can only hope that the economical situation in Pakistan becomes better so we can see induction of new platforms, more F-16s and long range surface to air missiles.




The Indian Su 30MKI with a huge 1500Km combat radius is capable of deep strikes in Pakistan. It is augmented with Mig29 and Mirage2000 both of which are also latest bvr capable fighters.These make over 300 bvr capable fighters. None of the PAF aircrafts match the 200 su30 mki in their range and weapons payload capacity.

Even after the above quantitative and qualitative comparison, IAF is planning
to further induct another 126+ 4.5 generation rafale fighters not to mention
5th generation fighters like pak-fa and fgfa which will skyrocket the qualitative and quantitative edge that India already possesses. Pakistan can not afford a complete generation gap in capability and might need to induct 5th generation fighters at the same pace as India as you cant bring a knife in a gun fight.That would translate into the chinese J31 induction in paf. It's cost and capability remains to be seen.

In the past 7 years, PAF has inducted AWACS, Air refuelers and BVR platforms which is a testament to the higher ups in PAF who have infused these much needed capabilities rather quickly. PAF has maintained it's high level of training. Now Pakistan is slowly increasing the number of BVR capable aircrafts with better avionics and standoff weapons. There is a speculation that JF-17 block2 would be a much more capable platform than blk1.

This is just a request by air force enthusiasts to the Pakistani media to not to propagate Indian reports / propaganda without doing some in depth research on the matter. PAF does not have qualitative and quantitative edge over IAF.

While you are at it, Please also post pak media discussing this article. I haven't seen much reaction on this from pak media.
 
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@Manticore you over Estimating capabilities Indian Media they just fools Lack Basic Knowledge about Defense forces.I Find Many Pak channels More Mature in this Field Except Few Most of news channels in india are Trp Mongers.Each channel Divided in its own Political Factions Eventually Sometimes go to Degrade Image of the Armed Forces Just to Satisfy there Ego's there Many Instances we Indians Witnessed

Media is one of the four pillars of society and country in general - you are generalising quite a lot by ridiculing the entire media.
 
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Media is one of the four pillars of society and country in general - you are generalising quite a lot by ridiculing the entire media.
I thought government, business, family, civil society & religion were the pillars

Executive, legislature, judiciary are branches of gov
 
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@Manticore now a days the way Indian media is reporting news is that we need anti depression pills to watch it..They care only about their TRPs..

BTW you forgot about the upgraded Jaguars..

I hope you are not including Arnab he is really my hero i lie you not.
 
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@NKVD

I'm just curious. How do you watch both side media channels? I thought both countries have banned each others channels.
 
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When will Pakistan retire these aging horrible planes (total 343) below and recent number of crashes?

Mirages
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F-7
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