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(Minorities) Run for your life (in Pakistan)

Isnt is laughable that pakistani government impose ban on kite flying coz it ends up killing people but cant impose strict gun laws and de-weaponize the population.If you say guns are part of culture and custom then sure flying kite is too a part of culture.

we are fun people mate...
government does what they think is right but we dont like being told how to have fun...
no less than a thousand bullets were fired at my wedding and no i didnt feel threatened.
 
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Eighteen bloodied bodies, shot Gestapo-style, lay by the roadside. Men in army uniforms had stopped four buses bound from Rawalpindi to Gilgit, demanding that all 117 persons on board alight.Those with Shia sounding names on their national identification cards were separated out. Minutes later it was all over; the earlier massacres of Hazara Shias in Mastung and Quetta had been repeated.


Having just learned of the fresh killings, I relayed the news on to colleagues and students at the cafeteria table. Some looked glumly at their plates but, a minute or two later, normal cheerful chatter resumed. What to do? With so many killings, taking things too seriously can be bad for one’s mental health.

In Pakistan one’s religious faith, or lack of one, has become sufficient to warrant execution and murder. The killers do their job fearlessly and frequently. The 17th century philosopher and mathematician, Blaise Pascal, once observed that “men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it for religious conviction”.

Equipped with just enough religion to hate those with another faith — but not enough to love their coreligionists — Pakistanis have mostly turned their backs on religious atrocities. Exceptionally grotesque ones, such as when 88 Ahmadis quietly praying in Lahore on a Friday were turned into corpses, have also failed to inspire public reaction. Mass executions do not interest Pakistan’s religious parties, or Imran’s Khan’s PTI. For them, only the killings by American drones matter.

The title of this essay deliberately excludes Hindus, Christians, and Parsis. The reason: these communities were never enthused about India’s partition (even though some individual members pretended to be). Indeed, they were soon slapped with the Objectives Resolution of 1949 which termed them “minorities”, hence freaks and outcasts dispatched to the margins. Some accepted their fate, keeping a low profile. Others altered their names to more Muslim sounding ones. The better off or more able ones emigrated, taking valuable skills along with them.

But with Shias and Ahmadis it was different. Whatever they might feel now, they were enthusiastic about Pakistan. Mr Jinnah, born a Gujrati Shia Muslim, believed that Muslims and Hindus could never live together peacefully but that Muslims, of course, could. Chaudhry Zafarullah Khan, an Ahmadi leader, was commended by Jinnah for having eloquently argued the Two-Nation theory, and then appointed by him in 1947 as Pakistan’s first foreign minister. Mr Jinnah died early, but Zafarullah Khan lived long enough to see disillusionment. The inevitable had happened: once the partition was complete, the question of which version of Islam was correct became bitterly contentious.

Until recently, Pakistan’s Shias did not have the self-image of a religious minority. They had joined Sunnis in supporting Mr Bhutto’s 1974 decision to declare Ahmadis as non-Muslim. But now they are worried. The Tribal Areas are convulsed in sectarian warfare: Kurram, Parachinar and Hangu (in the settled districts) are killing grounds for both Sunni and Shia, but with most casualties being Shia. City life has also become increasingly insecure and segregated; Karachi’s Shia neighborhoods are visibly barricaded and fortified.

But while Shias are numerous enough to put up a defence, Ahmadis are not. Last month, a raging 5,000-strong mob descended upon their sole worship place in Satellite Town, Rawalpindi. Organised by the Jamaat-i-Islami, various leaders from Jamaat-ud-Dawa, Lashkar-e-Taiba and Sipah-e-Sahaba addressed the rally demanding the worship place’s security cameras and protective barricades be removed. The police agreed with the mob’s demands, advising the Ahmadis to cease praying. The worship place has now been closed down.

Forbidden from calling themselves Muslims, Ahmadi children are expelled from school once their religion is discovered. Just a hint may be enough to destroy a career. Knowing this, the school staff at a high school in Mansehra added the word ‘Qadiani’ to the name of an Ahmadi student, Raheel Ahmad, effectively eliminating the boy’s chances of getting a university education. The same school also held an anti-Ahmadi programme, distributing prizes to winners.

The latest outrage is that new ID cards, issued by the Punjab government, require the National Database and Registration Authority (NADRA) to insert a ‘Qadiani’ entry in the online forms. Ahmadis now do not have the option of declaring themselves non-Muslims. Instead the government demands that they open themselves to public persecution, a method that Nazi Germany used against Jews.

Even dead Ahmadis are not spared: news had reached the Khatm-e-Nabuwat that Nadia Hanif, a 17-year old school teacher who had died of illness ten days ago, was actually an Ahmadi but buried in a Muslim graveyard in Chanda Singh village, Kasur. Her grave was promptly dug up, and the body removed for reburial.

Pakistan’s state apparatus, for all its tanks and guns, offers no protection to those deemed as religious minorities. Is it just weakness? Or, perhaps, complicity? While swarms of intelligence agents can be seen in many places, they fail spectacularly to intercept religious terrorists. More ominously, recent months have seen state-sanctioned Difah-e-Pakistan Council (DPC) rallies across the country, drawing many tens of thousands. Prominent self-proclaimed Shia and Ahmadi killers, prance on stage while holding hands in a show of unity.

At the Multan DPC rally on February 17, Khatm-e-Nabuwat leaders bayed for Ahmadi blood while sharing the stage with the famed Malik Ishaq, a self-acclaimed Shia-killer. Newspaper reports say Ishaq was freed last year after frightened judges treated him like a guest in the courtroom, offering him tea and biscuits. One judge attempted to hide his face with his hands. But after Ishaq read out the names of his children, the judge abandoned the trial.

What does the Pakistan Army think it will gain tolerating — or perhaps encouraging — such violent forces once again? Its jawans pay an enormous price in fighting them, and their offshoots, elsewhere in the country. But perhaps the notion that extremists are Pakistan’s ‘strategic assets’ for use in Kashmir and Afghanistan has captured the military’s mind. Or, post-OBL, perhaps a miffed leadership seeks to show anger at the US through such rallies. Whatever the explanation, Pakistan’s minorities face catastrophe.

Run for your life – The Express Tribune
looks like Indian RAW and Mosaad together are behing this sectarian killingz.....very sad and evil act by them.......:smokin:
 
I see this sectarianism as symptomatic of a bigger failure. Pakistani industries are failing right and left, basic necessities like water and electricity are absent for the better part of the day, street crime and gang warfare flares up like clockwork. Mullahs openly deride the legal system by issuing their own fatwas about killing "heretics". Caught in all this are ordinary people, Muslims and non-Muslims, especially women and children, who have all but given up on the justice system.

The basic failure here is the civilian political setup which has utterly failed to deliver governance. Worse, they lost us East Pakistan due to their ethnic bigotry, and are now on track to losing Baluchistan. Equally culpable are the Pakistani people who have allowed these dynastic feudals to control the country for so long. Will Pakistanis rise up and confront these traitorous feudals, or will they continue in slumber as we lose Baluchistan, and then KP, and the minorities as they seek asylum elsewhere?

The first step would be learned and educated people in Pakistan to accept the actual facts on the ground and come out of denial.
 
The first step would be learned and educated people in Pakistan to accept the actual facts on the ground and come out of denial.

The problem is that the feudals have a strong grip on many parts of society, from law enforcement to media and industry. The only force strong enough to depose them is the military. Barring that, we need a non-feudal civilian alternative, which is why Imran Khan looks so appealing. We don't expect him to be a deus ex machina, but it's a start.
 
The problem is that the feudals have a strong grip on many parts of society, from law enforcement to media and industry. The only force strong enough to depose them is the military. Barring that, we need a non-feudal civilian alternative, which is why Imran Khan looks so appealing. We don't expect him to be a deus ex machina, but it's a start.

I hope he comes to power and hope he brings in the changes expected of him. Thats a 2 year wait, the only worrying part is will the situation deteriorate beyond repair by the time he comes to power if he does. The cracks are beginning to become deeper. Every situation/issue that remains unresolved will have a long baring on the health of the state.
 
I hope he comes to power and hope he brings in the changes expected of him. Thats a 2 year wait, the only worrying part is will the situation deteriorate beyond repair by the time he comes to power if he does. The cracks are beginning to become deeper. Every situation/issue that remains unresolved will have a long baring on the health of the state.

There will be early elections I hear. Just 7-8 months left. :D
 
There will be early elections I hear. Just 7-8 months left. :D

Your present corrupt leadership will fight that tooth and nail, they are determined to remain in power for the whole term. An attempt was made earlier but was countered by Gilani/Zardari. I remember Gilani pleading to your nation to allow a civilian government for once to complete its term and the GHQ/army obliged - they could have easily brought down the government but they didn't. Now Pakistanis have resigned to the fate of waiting for the next change.
 
Z9-ec is troll who is just doing his masters bidding, spreading lies.

As for the Topic, Every day Indians post a new thread on something bad happening in Pakistan. If you guys spent even 1/4 of that energy into improving your own country you could probably beat out China.
But instead you guys are self pleasuring yourself with any bad news about Pakistan.
It's getting to the point where **** sits targeted to Indians should have a "Bad news in Pakistan" fetish section. It would just be bad news form Pakistan, and I bet it would be the most popular fetish in India :lol:

Every time this Z9-ec guy posts something, Musharraf and MQM are always mentioned on a positive note. I think he was bribed....:lol:
 

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