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The deal, seen as another proof of growing Indo-Israel defence cooperation, was expected to be signed after price negotiations with Rafael Advanced Defence Systems of Israel were completed last year.

ASKING THE Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) to indigenously develop and produce a Man-Portable Anti-Tank Guided Missile (MPATGM) for the Army, the Ministry of Defence (MoD) has decided to cancel the $500 million deal for Spike ATGM with Israel. The deal, seen as another proof of growing Indo-Israel defence cooperation, was expected to be signed after price negotiations with Rafael Advanced Defence Systems of Israel were completed last year.

In anticipation of this deal, Rafael had entered into a joint venture with Kalyani group for missile production in India. The missile sub-systems manufacturing facility, based near Hyderabad, was inaugurated in August.

Ministry sources told The Indian Express that the decision to cancel the deal was based on the consideration that importing a foreign ATGM at this stage would adversely impact the programme for indigenous development of the weapon system by DRDO. Earlier, India had also rejected an offer from US-based Raytheon-Lockheed Martin for Javelin ATGM in favour of the Israeli weapon system.

“DRDO has successfully produced the Nag and Anamika ATGMs. It is confident about providing the Army with an MPATGM of 3rd generation missile technology, at par with Spike, within three to four years. It won’t also need any transfer of technology,” sources said.

Also Read: India clears Rs 17,000 crore missile deal with Israel

The decision to retract the Request for Proposal (RFP), however, will be a setback to the modernisation programme of the Army. In letters to the MoD, the Army headquarters had highlighted “the operational urgency of the equipment”, arguing that the Spike “gives a major capability impetus to troops deployed on the Line of Control, especially in the current operational scenario”.

Spike MR missile is a 3rd generation, fire and forget, top attack, ATGM with a range of 2.5 km, which can operate both during the day and night. The Army is currently using 2nd generation ATGMs — Konkurs and Milan 2T — which do not have night-fighting capabilities. Moreover, the Army currently has a shortage of around 68,000 missiles, with no missiles held as War Wastage Reserves against a government stipulation to build up stocks to last for at least 10 days of intense fighting.

In 2009, the MoD accepted the requirement of buying 321 ATGM launchers and 8,356 missiles, with 30 per cent offsets and a transfer of technology clause. An option of approaching the US for buying Javelin ATGM was also explored, but the US government was not amenable to transfer of technology. Only Rafael of Israel responded, and Spike missiles underwent trials in 2011-12. The ministry accepted the trial evaluation in 2013 and gave clearance for procuring from a single vendor. The US government later tried to offer the Javelin ATGM with transfer of technology but India chose to go ahead with the Israeli system.

Ministry sources said that trials highlighted a problem with one of the two homing devices in the launcher which led to constitution of a study group. The study group presented its report in August 2014, and the ministry agreed in October 2014 to procure the missiles from Rafael.

Price negotiations between Rafael and the MoD started in March 2015. After the prices were finalised in June 2016, then Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar constituted an experts committee to review the evaluation report and explore the possibility of an indigenous missile system. There was divergence in the views of the DRDO representatives and Army representatives in the experts committee over the case. The matter was eventually resolved earlier this month with Army headquarters agreeing to retract the RFP for ATGM launchers and missiles.

http://indianexpress.com/article/in...ile-deal-wants-drdo-to-make-in-india-4945571/
 
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Indian Army generals got big eyes now a days they want tanks and missiles from US, France, sIrael, Russia and UK!

They needs to be shown that not a single country in the world buys foreign systems when they have a indegenous equivalent. Great decision by MoD.



MPATGM from DRDO:

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what about the investment of kalyani group
looks like they have paid the price for being proactive
Thanks for posting
But I don't think they have invested as of now in Jv
Even if they have invested they won't loose because this govt won't let our companies to go down
 
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Lullzz...Now our DODO will deliver it after 30 yrs with 50 billion budget spent on it. Govt shud have let this deal happened along with local companies to produce further.
 
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I think Indian government just negotiates prices that's all. After the negotiations it cancels. Then make in India and chest thumping kicks in and Pakistan's best friend DRDO kicks in
 
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I think Indian government just negotiates prices that's all. After the negotiations it cancels. Then make in India and chest thumping kicks in and Pakistan's best friend DRDO kicks in

This Drdo has delivered all Agni,Pritvi missiles for its friend pakistan. Hope you will accept them with open hands
 
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In reality, the MPATGM has been under development since 2009 by the DRDL, with VEM Technologies being responsible for product engineering development. Raytheon has already secured US approval for 97% transfer-of-technology (ToT) for licence-producing the missile’s cooled mid-wave imaging infra-red (MWIIR) seeker, and will withhold only the target acquisition algorithms. Both Bharat Dynamics Ltd (BDL) and Ordnance Factory Board (OFB) will be responsible for the joint development ofthermobaric-HEDP and HE/FRAG penetration-cum-blast warheads, while the re-usuable launchers and missiles will be built by both VEM Technologies and BDL. A cooled MWIIR sensor can passively lock-on to targets at up to 50% farther range than an uncooled sensor, thus allowing the firing crew greater and safer standoff distance, and less likely to be exposed to counter-fire. An uncooled long-wave infra-red (LWIR) sensor on the other hand brings increased repairs, decreased operational availability, and dangerous vulnerabilities, while a cooled IIR sensor saves lives, lessens fratricide, minimises collateral damage, lowers risk, and protects its firing platforms/crew. Present plans call for equipping the Indian Army’s existing 356 infantry battalions of the 1.13 million-strong Indian Army and the projected 30 infantry battalions to be raised in the 13th five-year defence plan (2018-2022) with some 6,000 MPATGM launchers and up to 26,000 missile-rounds (including war wastage reserves).

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A similar practice had earlier led to the development of the 4km-range Nag ATGM and its air-launched HELINA variant. Back in 2005, the IA had ordered443 Nag missiles and 13 NAMICA tracked carrier/launch vehicles, and is expected to order another 7,000 Nag missiles and around 200 NAMICAs. The 4km-range Nag uses a RCI-developed uncooled LWIR sensor containing an IR-CCD supplied by France-based ULIS/Sofradir. For the 6km-range HELINA, the DRDO has developed a two-way RF command-video data-link. The missile-to-helicopter down-link used to pass the LWIR seeker video works in the S band and the helicopter-to-missile up-link to pass steering commands works in the C band. In addition, a DS-SS modulation scheme is used for the command up-link while a conventional FM technique is used for video down-link, respectively.

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Indian Army generals got big eyes now a days they want tanks and missiles from US, France, sIrael, Russia and UK!

They needs to be shown that not a single country in the world buys foreign systems when they have a indegenous equivalent. Great decision by MoD.



MPATGM from DRDO:

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Yeah ... Just like DODO is delivering Naag since last 30 years.
Govt should make it mandatory for all indians to use BSNL sims only and ban all foreign companies like vodafone etc.
 
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I think Indian government just negotiates prices that's all. After the negotiations it cancels. Then make in India and chest thumping kicks in and Pakistan's best friend DRDO kicks in
A great hilarious comment which shows the truth!!! By the by, forget about the real transactions even the negotiations with the Indians will take a toll on your mind!!! In 2013 a friend of mine wanted to buy a house from an Indian folk. That guy wanted a price of not that of 2013 market, but a projected hyped up price of 2017!!! Only the Persians and Jewish folks belong to that exclusive club!!!!
 
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GOI has become a laughing stock with such attitude and Israel wont take this matter kindly (anymore) vis-a-vis future deals.

BTW, what happened of the following:

The 24,000 sqft facility was set up in under 10 months and can produce "thousands of missiles", Mr Kalyani said, adding the company will look for overseas customers if the Army delays orders.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/kalyani-group-opens-missile-making-unit-with-israels-rafael-1733323

What a shameful U-Turn by Modi government!
 
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This Drdo has delivered all Agni,Pritvi missiles for its friend pakistan. Hope you will accept them with open hands
As I said DRDO or Dodo is Pakistan's best friend. Long may it continue to deliver

A great hilarious comment which shows the truth!!! By the by, forget about the real transactions even the negotiations with the Indians will take a toll on your mind!!! In 2013 a friend of mine wanted to buy a house from an Indian folk. That guy wanted a price of not that of 2013 market, but a projected hyped up price of 2017!!! Only the Persians and Jewish folks belong to that exclusive club!!!!
Well let they stay in their bubble. India has after all invented the square wheel so credit where it's due. Looool
 
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As I said DRDO or Dodo is Pakistan's best friend. Long may it continue to deliver

Well let they stay in their bubble. India has after all invented the square wheel so credit where it's due. Looool

Chalo, atleast you liked something in india as your friend.
 
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