Military blocking Pakistan-India trade deal, says Shahbaz Sharif

[Jazzbot]

This is what happen when a business man rules your country. He'll always think about his own interests ahead of national interests.

 

[saikumar]

if pakistan does not want to do trade with india,then it is their wish

 

[Pakistani E]

The only reason the KOJAK brothers are so desperate for trade deals is to directly benefit themselves through kickbacks etc. That's why they are so pissed that the military is coming in their way, like it did when Nawaz kojak wanted to become ameer ul momineen.

 

[rockstarIN]

The Sharif brothers are businessmen at the core, not actual ''leaders'', they may care about business and the economy in terms of numbers, facts and figure, they don't realize what an impact such deals would have on the local geo-political situation, this would be a sign of weakness by the Pakistani establishment since most of Pakistan's initiatives are not reciprocated by the Indian establishment. I am all up for peace, don't get me wrong, but I want peace on relatively equal footings, we need to be in a mutually respectful as well as beneficial relationship. Pakistan has time and time again tried such measures but received the cold shoulder from the other side, the Sharif brothers need to realize that a relation with India may be beneficial on paper if it succeeds, now that is a big if I must say but it would still mean Pakistani subversion to Indian hegemony.......

There wes only once pak was serious about peace when mushraf was in power. We too need to feel that the initiative is sincere. Even now we se there are hardly any sincere action apart from words as we saw 26.11 guys and dr.afridi case.

 

[Khan_patriot]

There wes only once pak was serious about peace when mushraf was in power. We too need to feel that the initiative is sincere. Even now we se there are hardly any sincere action apart from words as we saw 26.11 guys and dr.afridi case.

wtf does dr. Afridi have to do with India....

 

[batmannow]

wtf does dr. Afridi have to do with India....

prapoganda preasure tools, i might say friend?lolzzz

 

[syedali73]

wtf does dr. Afridi have to do with India....

You are an intelligent person, you did not get him? They see their country as USA. They are obviously far (really far) from that but that is what they think, and everyone is entitled to their thinking.

Pun aside, the fact of the matter is, the two countries are not on equal footing, we should admit it. We need this admittance to move forward and get our act straight. The two are next door neighbors, there should be trade between the two. You can always protect your interests by negotiating better deals. By not doing business with them, what have we achieved? Give me one achievement, just one.

 

[Khan_patriot]

prapoganda preasure tools, i might say friend?lolzzz

Yes, this guy probably has no idea what he is talking about....

 

[Slayer786]

Lets not forget that in every forum, India has opposed Pakistan. Be it SAARC or any other world forum. India has been an obstacle. It has used its influence to garner support against Pakistan.
Pakistan has a lot of potential, resources and manpower. It has a better infrastructure than India. Many countries would like to invest in Pakistan where there is a growing middle class. But the problem is that we are faced with internal terrorism and when we do win that war. Then we dont need India. We will have many Middle Eastern, Asian and Europeon countries vying to invest in Pakistan.
During President Musharraf's rule we were getting FDI in Billions of Dollars. Until suddenly TTP came into existence and derailed Pakistan.

 

[rockstarIN]

Yes, this guy probably has no idea what he is talking about....

Oh really....


The speed or priority of interests ..else your words like sincere interest in peace efforts uh

 

[Shabaz Sharif]

You are an intelligent person, you did not get him? They see their country as USA. They are obviously far (really far) from that but that is what they think, and everyone is entitled to their thinking.

Pun aside, the fact of the matter is, the two countries are not on equal footing, we should admit it. We need this admittance to move forward and get our act straight. The two are next door neighbors, there should be trade between the two. You can always protect your interests by negotiating better deals. By not doing business with them, what have we achieved? Give me one achievement, just one.

There should be balance and not 80-20% advantage to India. If not then we don't need to have any trade with India if hindus keep beating our people in India when they go,for bussiness and when they refuse to buy anything made in Pakistan out of hatered.

 

[ashish1]

Lets not forget that in every forum, India has opposed Pakistan. Be it SAARC or any other world forum. India has been an obstacle. It has used its influence to garner support against Pakistan.
Pakistan has a lot of potential, resources and manpower. It has a better infrastructure than India. Many countries would like to invest in Pakistan where there is a growing middle class. But the problem is that we are faced with internal terrorism and when we do win that war. Then we dont need India. We will have many Middle Eastern, Asian and Europeon countries vying to invest in Pakistan.
During President Musharraf's rule we were getting FDI in Billions of Dollars. Until suddenly TTP came into existence and derailed Pakistan.

LOL,are you dreaming??
This is an old report,will try to find the latest one where the gap is even more.

Quality of overall infrastructure - Country Rankings 2011 - Photius

 

[Slayer786]

LOL,are you dreaming??
This is an old report,will try to find the latest one where the gap is even more.

Quality of overall infrastructure - Country Rankings 2011 - Photius

Well your rank is 91 compared to us on 100 which is nothing to brag about really. India with all its financial reswources at its disposal still now only is a little ahead of pakistan in infrastructure. Although, reading some of the stuff below seem that living in Pakistan is better off.
We suffer only from terrorism, if we can win against that monster than there is nothing to stop us. We dont need India, the world will be our stage.

Friday, December 18, 2009
Pakistan's Modern Infrastructure


As Pakistan struggles to bring a sense of stability and security amidst daily carnage, it is important to recognize that there is more to Pakistan than meets the eyes of a casual consumer of the images and reports by the world's media. For example, Pakistan is a developing country with functional bureaucracy, well-organized police force, democratic institutions and a powerful army. And Pakistan has more advanced infrastructure than its neighbors, including India. Among the modern infrastructure pieces in place in Pakistan are its motorway system, extensive road network, mobile telecommunications systems, airports, high-speed Internet system, extensive railroad network, gas pipeline etc. A British writer William Dalrymple who visited and compared India and Pakistan on their 60th anniversary described Pakistan as follows:

"On the ground, of course, the reality is different and first-time visitors to Pakistan are almost always surprised by the country's visible prosperity. There is far less poverty on show in Pakistan than in India, fewer beggars, and much less desperation. In many ways the infrastructure of Pakistan is much more advanced: there are better roads and airports, and more reliable electricity. Middle-class Pakistani houses are often bigger and better appointed than their equivalents in India. Moreover, the Pakistani economy is undergoing a construction and consumer boom similar to India's, with growth rates of 7%, and what is currently the fastest-rising stock market in Asia. You can see the effects everywhere: in new shopping centers and restaurant complexes, in the hoardings for the latest laptops and iPods, in the cranes and building sites, in the endless stores selling mobile phones: in 2003 the country had fewer than three million cellphone users; today there are almost 50 million."

More recently, Alistair Scrutton filed a Reuters report about Pakistan's infrastructure, particularly its 367 Km long M2 motorway that connects Lahore with Islamabad:

"Indeed, for sheer spotlessness, efficiency and emptiness there is nothing like the M2 in the rest of South Asia.

It puts paid to what's on offer in Pakistan's traditional foe and emerging economic giant India, where village culture stubbornly refuses to cede to even the most modern motorways, making them battlegrounds of rickshaws, lorries and cows.

There are many things in Pakistan that don't get into the news. Daily life, for one. Pakistani hospitality to strangers, foreigners like myself included, is another. The M2 is another sign that all is not what it appears in Pakistan, that much lies hidden behind the bad news.

On a recent M2 trip, my driver whizzed along but kept his speedometer firmly placed on the speed limit. Here in this South Asian Alice's Wonderland, the special highway police are considered incorruptible. The motorway is so empty one wonders if it really cuts through one of the region's most populated regions.

"130, OK, but 131 is a fine," said the driver, Noshad Khan. "The police have cameras," he added, almost proudly. His hand waved around in the car, clenched in the form of a gun.

On one of my first trips to Pakistan. I arrived at the border having just negotiated a one-lane country road in India with cows, rickshaws and donkey-driven carts.

I toted my luggage over to the Pakistan side, and within a short time my Pakistani taxi purred along the tarmac. The driver proudly showed off his English and played U.S. rock on FM radio. The announcer even had an American accent. Pakistan, for a moment, receded, and my M2 trip began."

A strange relief to get to drive 3 lane asphalt in such serene quietness! It was unreal, we had to pinch our arm if this was really happening. Is this Pakistan? We decided to spend the night at the 3rd big service area with restaurant, gas station, police and clean toilets. It was strange to see there was no trace of locals selling stuff on the curbs – something which is really normal in Pakistan. Probably these place are off limits to the small business men.

Going to India – something we have long looked out for. We’ve heard a lot about India from other travellers – good and bad experiences. One thing’s for sure – India must have a LOT of people, each and every traveller from India has mentioned this explicitly. With Pakistan and Nepal (1998) as context we’re curious and somewhat anxious how we will experience India. We’re not crowd maniacs and both appreciate a ‘bit of air’ between people. Anyhow India happened quicker than we expected – we left Islamabad on the 25th, the next day we already sat in the garden of Ms Bandari’s Guesthouse. The superb M2 motorway with overnight parking and the road to the Indian border was uneventful. We drove the canal bank road through Lahore a long drive on a straight road. But look carefully to find this road separated by a canal – it’s sign posted rather miniscule by “Wagah border”.

"The road to Amritsar was like wading upstream in extreme suicidal traffic – the independence day ceremony must be something special. It must be totally worth risking your life for this. Naturally we had our usual ‘end of the day – near dark – took the wrong turn in mega dense traffic’ exercise. Just to make our arrival in Amritsar a little bit more special. We arrived in the dark - asking directions many times. This way we came a few 100 meters closer to Ms Bandari’s guesthouse each time we asked. We nearly seen the golden temple by truck. Ain’t that a relaxed truck ride in the dark! Cool!
And yes, even with GPS coordinates of the place it’s still a nice puzzle to solve after a border crossing day like this."

Many infrastructure projects in Pakistan, including power plants and motorways, are being built and financed on build-operate-transfer or BOT basis. Built on the BOT basis, the M2 motorway has already paid for itself and now generates revenue for Pakistan government.

Source: South Asia Investor Review

 

[ashish1]

Well your rank is 91 compared to us on 100 which is nothing to brag about really. India with all its financial reswources at its disposal still now only is a little ahead of pakistan in infrastructure. Although, reading some of the stuff below seem that living in Pakistan is better off.
We suffer only from terrorism, if we can win against that monster than there is nothing to stop us. We dont need India, the world will be our stage.

As i said this is an old report,we have improve atleast by 20 ranks and Pakistan has slipped even more.