Military Balance of Turkish & Hellenic Air Forces in the Region

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Yes,Kizelelma will win the war

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YES as like TB-2 won the wars in Libya and Karabakh


-- 72 KIZILELMA will be enough for Greece
-- 235 F-16s
-- S400 and SIPER Air Defense Systems
-- TAI TISU unmanned stealth Bomber
-- 300+ TB-2 , ANKA-S , AKSUNGUR , AKINCI UCAVs
-- NATO's 2nd strongest fire power .. ( Ballistic and Cruise Missiles )
YILDIRIM , BORA , TAYFUN , ATACMS , SOM , ATMACA , SLAM-ER , POPEYE , HARM
also CENK and GEZGIN on the way

and 40 F-16 block70 , 24-48 Eurofighters on agenda


keep dreaming with 24 Rafales
24 Rafales can not win a war against Turkiye .

 

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YES as like TB-2 won the wars in Libya and Karabakh

When it comes to Libya

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When it comes to Karabakh,the Azeris didn't use just TB2s,but a lot of Israeli UAVs as well.

 

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When it comes to Libya

RESULT : GNA kicked HAFTAR

Thanks to Turkish TB-2 UCAV which libareted area ( 2x Greece ) in Libya from HAFTAR Forces

When it comes to Karabakh,the Azeris didn't use just TB2s,but a lot of Israeli UAVs as well.

75% of Armenian Forces were destroyed by Turkish TB-2 UCAVs

 

[Foinikas]

RESULT : GNA kicked HAFTAR

Thanks to Turkish TB-2 UCAV which libareted area ( 2x Greece ) in Libya from HAFTAR Forces

The Tripoli government survived,that was the victory. The Tobruk government still holds most of Libya.

The claim that TB2 liberated an area twice as Greece is laughable,as the majority of inland Libya is desert.

The war didn't end,there was a ceasefire. You lost some 23+ TB2s and I don't know if you can count that as a "victory".

75% of Armenian Forces were destroyed by Turkish TB-2 UCAVs

That's a ridiculous claim,especially when there were other UAVs,heavy artillery and tanks pounding the Armenians.

Azerbaijan praises ‘very effective’ Israeli drones in fighting with Armenia

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www.timesofisrael.com

 

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The Tripoli government survived,that was the victory. The Tobruk government still holds most of Libya.

The claim that TB2 liberated an area twice as Greece is laughable,as the majority of inland Libya is desert.

Losers are trying to show epic failure as a victory
France,Egypt,Russia,The UAE backed HAFTAR tried to take Misrata and Tripoli

They almost took Tripoli
but Turkiye entered the game
and Turkish TB-2 UCAV libareted area ( 2x Greece ) in Libya from HAFTAR Forces

Libya : 1.760.000 km²
Greece : 131.957 km²


now GNA control Capital of Libya ( Tripoli ) and other big cities with the most population in Libya

That's a ridiculous claim,especially when there were other UAVs,heavy artillery and tanks pounding the Armenians.

Turkish TB2s with destroying $1 billion worth of Armenian military equipment

TB-2 UCAVs fired hundreds of MAM-L laser guided munition to give victory to Azerbaijan

The Last Azerbaijan-Armenia War Changed How Small Nations Fight Modern Battles

Baku may well have demonstrated how modern military technology such as armed drones can enable small militaries and nations to punch well above their weight on the battlefield.

www.forbes.com

 

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GNA control Capital of Libya ( Tripoli ) and other big cities with the most population in Libya

Libya : 1.760.000 km²
Greece : 131.957 km²

Turkish TB-2 UCAV which libareted area ( 2x Greece ) in Libya from HAFTAR Forces

TB2 liberates automatically? Or you have to also send troops on the ground,support with artillery and aircraft?

Enough with your childish analysis.

This is Libya. Red is Tobruk government,blue is Tripoli government. You won what? The survival of the GNA government.

TB-2 UCAVs fired hundreds of MAM-L laser guided munition to give victory to Azerbaijan

Harop played a big role too. Other UAVs played a big role too. Artillery as well. The Azeris were stacked with good equipment. To talk about TB2 winning the war is naive.

 

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TB2 liberates automatically? Or you have to also send troops on the ground,support with artillery and aircraft?

Enough with your childish analysis.

Stop trolling

Turkish soldiers were not in combat role in Libya ... only for assistance and training
and Turkish F-16s were not in conflict

TB-2 UCAVs changed the game in Libya ...

This is Libya. Red is Tobruk government,blue is Tripoli government. You won what? The survival of the GNA government.

LNA control deserts

GNA control capital of Libya and other big cities with the most population in Libya

Harop played a big role too. Other UAVs played a big role too. Artillery as well. The Azeris were stacked with good equipment. To talk about TB2 winning the war is naive.

According to Azerbaijan
$1 billion worth of Armenian military equipment were destroyed by TB-2 UCAVs
( 75% of all targets )

without HAROP , Azerbaijan also would win the war
TB-2 played the biggest role

Azerbaijan used even TB-2 UCAV + TRLG-230 laser guided MLRS to hit Armenian targets

only Turkiye in NATO .. American HIMARS is GPS guided MLRS which can not hit moving targets

 

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Stop trolling

Turkish soldiers were not in combat role in Libya ... only for assistance and training
and Turkish F-16s were not in conflict

I'm talking about the GNA.

without HAROP , Azerbaijan also would win the war
TB-2 played the biggest role

Is that why they praised the Israeli UAVs so much?

 

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Is that why they praised the Israeli UAVs so much?

Azerbaijan praised the Turkish TB-2 which destroyed $1 billion worth of Armenian military equipment ( 75% of all targets )

HAROP played little role
Azerbaijan doesnt have enough HAROP to destroy $1 billion worth of Armenian military equipment

TB-2 UCAVs fired hundreds of MAM-L laser guided munitions

I'm talking about the GNA.

that was your post which about Turkiye and Turkish Jets

TB2 liberates automatically? Or you have to also send troops on the ground,support with artillery and aircraft?

So Turkish soldiers were not in combat role in Libya ... only for assistance and training
and Turkish F-16s were not in conflict

 

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that was your post which about Turkiye and Turkish Jets

I didn't mention "Turkish jets". I said "aircraft".

So Turkish soldiers were not in combat role in Libya ... only for assistance and training
and Turkish F-16s were not in conflict

Turkish soldiers were involved to a certain extend in the conflict. They had combat role. If anything,they controlled the UAVs and manned AA systems and artillery of the Turkish army. There might even have been Special Forces along with GNA militias in some combat missions.

HAROP played little role
Azerbaijan doesnt have enough HAROP to destroy $1 billion worth of Armenian military equipment

That's not what Aliyev and others claim.

 

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Turkish soldiers were involved to a certain extend in the conflict. They had combat role. If anything,they controlled the UAVs and manned AA systems and artillery of the Turkish army. There might even have been Special Forces along with GNA militias in some combat missions.

Only in your lies as lies of FETO Terrorists

even to control UCAVs and AA Systems are not combat role
to protect themselves at bases

That's not what Aliyev and others claim.

According to your lies ?


ILHAN ALIEV spoke to a France24 reporter

French reporter : are TB-2s making the difference in this conflict ?

ALIYEV : Yes of cource

TB-2 very modern and sophisticated weapon

Only by the Drones which we acquired from Turkiye destroyed Armenian military equipment worth $1 billion

 

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Only in your lies as lies of FETO Terrorists

Ok,whatever...

You're absolutism again leaves little space for discussion. It's either your narration or everyone else is an "ignorant,liar troll".

 

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Ok,whatever...

You're absolutism again leaves little space for discussion. It's either your narration or everyone else is an "ignorant,liar troll".

I am talking reality , you are still trolling

including TB-2 UCAV role in Karabakh War

I noticed you are always using FETO lies for anti-Erdogan and anti-Turkiye propaganda
You have big hatred towards Erdogan and Turkiye

 

[Foinikas]

I noticed you are always using FETO lies for anti-Erdogan and anti-Turkiye propaganda
You have big hatred towards Erdogan and Turkiye

I noticed you have big hatred for everyone and you always use the official government propaganda.

 

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I noticed you have big hatred for everyone and you always use the official government propaganda.

I dont have hatred for anyone .. because nobody ruled the Turks in history


I just show the reality and reality hurts enemies

Turkiye doesnt need propaganda which won everywhere
Turkiye doesnt need propaganda which has its own defense industry


in 2021 your team called KIZILELMA and TFX as fake and ultranationalist propaganda

RESULT : in 2023 eveybody has seen KIZILELMA and TFX as real projects

also TAI TISU ( ANKA-3 ) unmanned stealth Bomber on the way


The Turks will wake up all daydreamers when KIZILELMA ,HURJET , TISU and TFX enter service

-- also Turkiye was become 3rd country in NATO that developed medium-high altitude Air Defense Systems after USA and France

-- also Turkiye has developed its own Cruise Missiles , BVR air to air Missiles while others still begs from USA-France

-- also Turkiye was become Drone super power in the world to hit everything
( 300+ TB-2 , ANKA , AKSUNGUR , AKINCI UCAVs .. one of top 3 UCAV fleet in the world )

-- also Turkiye has developed GaN based AESA Radars to detect threats from 450+ km away
and Quantum Radar under development to detect even stealth Fighter Jets

-- also Turkiye has developed Radar Electronic Warfare Systems ( only Turkiye, Russia, Israel )

-- also Turkiye becomes a few countries in the world with Airborne stand off Jammer
HAVASOJ Projects

-- also Turkiye has developed Targeting Pod and Jamming Pods
( only a few countries in the world )

-- also Turkiye has developed its own KEMENT Tactical data link for network centric warfare
( only a few countries in the world )

-- also Turkish Kamikaze Drones ALPAGUT , SIMSEK and KARGI to hit everything from 60 ,200 , 800 km away

-- also Turkish IIR , RF , laser guided missiles/bombs to hit everything
TOLUN-IIR , TRLG-230 , KGK-LR , CAKIR , AKBABA , KUZGUN-TJ on the way

-- Turkish YILDIRIM , BORA , TAYFUN , CENK , SOM , KARA-ATMACA and GEZGIN Ballistic - Cruise Missiles to hit everything in the region

-- RAMJET powered supersonic Cruise Missile on the way
only USA , Turkiye , France-UK in NATO

-- RAMJET powered GOKHAN long range air to air missile project to match with European METEOR Missile

-- Turkiye has developed single mode LASER Weapon ( only USA , Turkiye ... China also working on single mode LASER Weapon )

-- Turkiye is one of 6 countries in the world which have single crystal blade and bliks technologies for gas turbine Engines ( USA , UK , France , Turkiye , China . Ukraine-Russia )

TS-1400 turboshaft Engine to power T-625 Helicopter in 2023 for test flight
TF-10.000 turbofan Engine under development to power unmanned Fighter Jets

-- 83 T-129 Attack Helicopters for the Turkish Armed Forces
also T-929 heavy Attack Helicopter maiden flight in 2023
to become 3rd country in the world that developed 10+ tons class heavy Attack Helicopter

USA : AH-64 Apache
Russia : KA-52 and MI-28
Turkiye : T-929

-- Turkish T-625 and T-925 Utility Helicopter projects

-- Military Satellites GOKTURK-1 , GOKTURK-2 , IMECE and GOKTURK-3

-- also superior weapons such as S400 , Boeing E-7T AEWCs are in service


and you are calling all of these as the official government propaganda.
You are in ultranationalist blind or in denial ... nothing else


not propaganda but reality ... year by year Turkish military projects becomes true

None of these projects existed 7 years ago ( except T-129 , SOM )

Think about what will happen in the next 7 years