Milgem Corvette vs Type 56

[sumoto]

Milgem is good.
But still it is not as good as kamorta class.
Milgem have less displacement as compared to kamorta but high displacement as compared to type056
So it will be a good purchase.

 

[truthseeker2010]

First, a guided missile ship is not a "pop".
Second, While buying surface vessels, the requirement is kept in mind and not always the price.

There is no comparison of the Milgem class with the T56.

if pn is interested in milgem class ship, than F-22 would be even better, considering they already have experience, they should be modified with VLS air defence system, and it would be even more powerful than milgem and will again be cost effective.

 

[cabatli_53]

Pakistanis must be realistic. Price is definitely a factor when selecting military hardware. You do not have deep pocket and China will not give soft loan for a turkish military warship. Turkish economy is not doing very well and I do not expect them to give you long and soft loan.

In peace times, Everything received from various sources seem perfect but Every penny of spent money start playing critical role When the situation suddenly went hostile so If the subject is the safe future and honour of a nation, The money to be spent is not a factor.

Milgem is good.
But still it is not as good as kamorta class.
Milgem have less displacement as compared to kamorta but high displacement as compared to type056
So it will be a good purchase.

Kamorta is an equivalent of Turkey's I class frgate project which is going to be commenced constructing as advanced variant of Milgem.

Length: 111m
Beam: 14,42m

16x Atmaca ship to ship missiles
16x MK-41 SAM cells
CIWS
STOP turret
76mm main turret
Sonar
Active/Passive torpedo defence system
Ares-2N electronic warfare systems
Genesis Advent CMS

 

[nomi007]

like s20 submarine project

soon PN will sign a deal for
MİLGEM

hope we will add
more than 8 MİLGEM in our fleet

 

[cabatli_53]

like s20 submarine project

soon PN will sign a deal for
MİLGEM

hope we will add
more than 8 MİLGEM in our fleet

Pakistan received F-22P which is more or less similar class with Milgem so Pakistan and Turkey should look one step forward and collaborate over more advnced naval ships like I class or TF-2000 frigate projects. 600 tonnes class Turkish Assault boat project is also an option for collaboration.

RMK proposal for Assault boat project

8x Atmaca SSM
1x RAM launcher
1x main gun
3D search radar
~50 knot speed

Those projects may pave the way for a strong collaboration between Pakistan and Turkey and I have strong feelings to see a signature ceremony which is similar to Pakistani fleet tanker project. Not only for construction, Pakistan and Turkey should collaborate over exportation of partnered projects as well.

 

[Kamil_baku]

i wish Azerbaijan could also purchase Milgem.. then we will have better stance in Caspian sea.. But, our president is afraid of Russia.. @@

 

[Oublious]

Milgem is good.
But still it is not as good as kamorta class.
Milgem have less displacement as compared to kamorta but high displacement as compared to type056
So it will be a good purchase.

Milgem is designed for Litteral Waters, it is not a fregat but still better then the Chinese fregat.

 

[cabatli_53]

i wish Azerbaijan could also purchase Milgem.. then we will have better stance in Caspian sea.. But, our president is afraid of Russia.. @@

Bro, Caspian sea is all round closed so the ship to be procured should have a strong self defence capabilities. Milgem is built for anti-submarine roles so I class multi-role frigate is bigger but more suitable for Azerbaijani location but It is better to have smaller ships in close waters so Assault boats with great fire power perfectly meets the requirements of Azerbaijan. They are faster and quicker to response in close waters. Ten of RMK Assault boats are more than enough to establish superiority to any country having coast to Caspian sea. Just my thought !

 

[jmacmac]

Milgem is designed for Litteral Waters, it is not a fregat but still better then the Chinese fregat.

milgem is classified as a corvette same as type 56, both are design for Littoral Waters. but you have to keep in mind that the milgem is also about 900 tons heavier which equal more weapons and etc.

 

[Zarvan]

Pakistan received F-22P which is more or less similar class with Milgem so Pakistan and Turkey should look one step forward and collaborate over more advnced naval ships like I class or TF-2000 frigate projects. 600 tonnes class Turkish Assault boat project is also an option for collaboration.

RMK proposal for Assault boat project

8x Atmaca SSM
1x RAM launcher
1x main gun
3D search radar
~50 knot speed

Those projects may pave the way for a strong collaboration between Pakistan and Turkey and I have strong feelings to see a signature ceremony which is similar to Pakistani fleet tanker project. Not only for construction, Pakistan and Turkey should collaborate over exportation of partnered projects as well.

Well I would love to see at least 4 to 8 Milgem Corvette in our fleet and yes we should also corporate on the new Frigate being build by our friend Turkey. As for this Missile attack it looks better than our latest Missile boat. It also has Air Defence system.

Bro, Caspian sea is all round closed so the ship to be procured should have a strong self defence capabilities. Milgem is built for anti-submarine roles so I class multi-role frigate is bigger but more suitable for Azerbaijani location but It is better to have smaller ships in close waters so Assault boats with great fire power perfectly meets the requirements of Azerbaijan. They are faster and quicker to response in close waters. Ten of RMK Assault boats are more than enough to establish superiority to any country having coast to Caspian sea. Just my thought !

@cabatli_53 Give more details on Atmaca SSM ? Range and other Details ? Also Is it as good as Harpoon BLOCK II ?

 

[Kamil_baku]

Bro, Caspian sea is all round closed so the ship to be procured should have a strong self defence capabilities. Milgem is built for anti-submarine roles so I class multi-role frigate is bigger but more suitable for Azerbaijani location but It is better to have smaller ships in close waters so Assault boats with great fire power perfectly meets the requirements of Azerbaijan. They are faster and quicker to response in close waters. Ten of RMK Assault boats are more than enough to establish superiority to any country having coast to Caspian sea. Just my thought !

Bro, because the only water that connects Caspian sea to the black sea, is coming through Russia with Volga sea. They didnt let to procure bigger ships from TUrkey or anywhere else.. I am sure, once Turkey develop its Atmaca anti ship missile soon, Azerbaijan will purchase some. Azerbaijan spend almost a billion dollar recently to build modern army or commercial ships. it is also shows that they might have some secret deal to built some of them for baku in Azerbaijan.. But, last year, Putin came to Baku with its navy ships( for me, it is unacceptable!!! only our foolish government might accept it!!) He probably wanted to send message that he is the kings but we should do it ASAP!! im sure, Russia will never risk to occupy Azerbaijan by land. They know that, our people will fight until the last blood. but, navy is the simplest option,.. sorry for different topic that was discussed

 

[sumoto]

In peace times, Everything received from various sources seem perfect but Every penny of spent money start playing critical role When the situation suddenly went hostile so If the subject is the safe future and honour of a nation, The money to be spent is not a factor.



Kamorta is an equivalent of Turkey's I class frgate project which is going to be commenced constructing as advanced variant of Milgem.

Length: 111m
Beam: 14,42m

16x Atmaca ship to ship missiles
16x MK-41 SAM cells
CIWS
STOP turret
76mm main turret
Sonar
Active/Passive torpedo defence system
Ares-2N electronic warfare systems
Genesis Advent CMS

Yes you are right.
But I will give it to turkey for making a nice powerful corvette.

Milgem is designed for Litteral Waters, it is not a fregat but still better then the Chinese fregat.

Yeah it is much much better than chinese.

 

[cabatli_53]

Well I would love to see at least 4 to 8 Milgem Corvette in our fleet and yes we should also corporate on the new Frigate being build by our friend Turkey. As for this Missile attack it looks better than our latest Missile boat. It also has Air Defence system.

I didn't know Pakistan finalized an assault boat project. Is it Chinese ?

@cabatli_53 Give more details on Atmaca SSM ? Range and other Details ? Also Is it as good as Harpoon BLOCK II ?

The Atmaca is a radar-guided anti-ship cruise missile with a range of 120+ miles. When the program took off in 2009, the idea was to build an indigenous anti-ship missile with features similar to the Exocet but during its development phase Turkish authorities decided that the Atmaca instead should be better than Harpoon Block II, which is already in the Turkish inventory because There is an understanding that the Atmaca will eventually replace the Harpoon in TN.

The missile system is being developed by a team of Roketsan; military specialist Aselsan and ARMERKOM, an Istanbul-based research and development unit of the Turkish Navy.

First deliveries of the Atmaca will start at the end of 2016. The first Atmacas will be outfitted to Turkey's Milgem corvettes and frigates.

Atmaca Seeker heads-Aselsan

Turbo-jet motors are being developed by Kale

 

[Zarvan]

I didn't know Pakistan finalized an assault boat project. Is it Chinese ?





The Atmaca is a radar-guided anti-ship cruise missile with a range of 120+ miles. When the program took off in 2009, the idea was to build an indigenous anti-ship missile with features similar to the Exocet but during its development phase Turkish authorities decided that the Atmaca instead should be better than Harpoon Block II, which is already in the Turkish inventory because There is an understanding that the Atmaca will eventually replace the Harpoon in TN.

The missile system is being developed by a team of Roketsan; military specialist Aselsan and ARMERKOM, an Istanbul-based research and development unit of the Turkish Navy.

First deliveries of the Atmaca will start at the end of 2016. The first Atmacas will be outfitted to Turkey's Milgem corvettes and frigates.

Atmaca Seeker heads-Aselsan

I didn't know Pakistan finalized an assault boat project. Is it Chinese ?





The Atmaca is a radar-guided anti-ship cruise missile with a range of 120+ miles. When the program took off in 2009, the idea was to build an indigenous anti-ship missile with features similar to the Exocet but during its development phase Turkish authorities decided that the Atmaca instead should be better than Harpoon Block II, which is already in the Turkish inventory because There is an understanding that the Atmaca will eventually replace the Harpoon in TN.

The missile system is being developed by a team of Roketsan; military specialist Aselsan and ARMERKOM, an Istanbul-based research and development unit of the Turkish Navy.

First deliveries of the Atmaca will start at the end of 2016. The first Atmacas will be outfitted to Turkey's Milgem corvettes and frigates.

Atmaca Seeker heads-Aselsan

Missile range should be increased it should be close to 200 KM. As for assault ship it is more like small Anti Ship Missile boat I am talking about AZMAT class

 

[cabatli_53]

Missile range should be increased it should be close to 200 KM. As for assault ship it is more like small Anti Ship Missile boat I am talking about AZMAT class

120nm equals to 220km. (+) section is to emphasize the actual range of Atmaca is longer than typed.
SOM range is also introduced as 100+nm but It is known that The range of SOM is more than 250km.