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To each his own right? You guys earn janat by forcing people to say they are non muslim, by stopping them from reciting kalima or reading namaz, or stopping them from calling their mosques as masjid.
While we strive for janat by saying kalima

You guys? I took a 180 degree position from a popular belief and you have ended up grouping me with "You guys". Who are these "you guys". Lets read again what I said, I am not stopping anyone from using lota or muslim shower ..... they can do whatever they want ....... what I want them is to not identify lota as Muslim shower.

Kalima .......... is the ticket to Jannah? Cheap price like the Molana hazrat keep announcing sales discounts ..... recite this and centuries of sins are forgiven.

Reciting Kalima is the first and foremost condition of confirmation of entering islam. Its the first out of 5 pillars of islam you refered to ie Shahdah, and then comes salat, fasting, zakat and hajj

I don't agree with this 5 pillars story. Its not in Quran.
 
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The fact that we are discussing about Mormons and not Christians shows we acknowledge that is that; Mormon and Christian. Similarity, there is Muslim and Ahmedhiya. I know this is just label but very important one to distinct.

Quit being dense. It was an unlearned opinion of a poster that tried to misconstrue the fact that Mormons are a Christian community. The very fact that one discusses Catholicism and Christianity does not make them separate. Same thing with Sufism and Islam. Or Sunnism, Shiasm...
 
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He has been removed from Economic Advisory Council.
 
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Orya maqbool jan can take a chill pill, it's over and I for one am glad he was forced to step down. he aint the only whiz kid around and there should be no room in the government for anyone who has no respect for the constitution nor recognizes it.
 

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Orya maqbool jan can take a chill pill, it's over and I for one am glad he was forced to step down. he aint the only whiz kid around and there should be no room in the government for anyone who has no respect for the constitution nor recognizes it.

He is the only one of his kind, but it would be difficult for someone like you to understand.
 
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Only U Beleive on it not rest of the world including all other Muslim countries. Keep living in ur bubble.
99%Muslim countries recognize Qadiani / Ahmadi as non Muslims, google it.

He is the only one of his kind, but it would be difficult for someone like you to understand.
Is he Einstein?

Kalima .......... is the ticket to Jannah? Cheap price like the Molana hazrat keep announcing sales discounts ..... recite this and centuries of sins are forgiven.
Reciting Kalima and believing it two different thing, just ask him did he believe in finality of prophethood? ask him what his stance when we Muslims consider Mirza Ghulam Ahmed a heretic and dajjal, did he consider us Muslim? @gutto786
 
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Congrats to Imran Khan. It was a very crucial decision for his ultimate survival and popularity among his supporters. Secondly he snatched a big issue from opposition's hand to malign him.
 
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Reciting Kalima and believing it two different thing, just ask him did he believe in finality of prophethood? ask him what his stance when we Muslims consider Mirza Ghulam Ahmed a heretic and dajjal, did he consider us Muslim? @gutto786

Unlike sensitive Qadiyanis, I am not worried about who thinks what of me including their spiritual leader, they can declare me Kafir non Muslim in their constitution for Rabwah, I won't mind nor I would make a hue and cry about it (violence against them is excluded they are justified to protest against violent and hateful acts directed at them) I am only interested in how much I myself know about what I believe. Mr Ghulam Mirza is dead ........ there is no need for me to attack his personality.

And it is quite strange that Ghulam Ahmed means Servant of Ahmed ....... but they prefer to call themselves Ahmedi, a disrespect to the name of their spiritual leader. It doesn't make any sense and is wrong.
 
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Think we'll be just fine without him.

Pakistan's economy is in tatters. The country struggles to pay loan repayments for loans it took to pay the loans it took prevously. If this is fine then boy you are mad!

Can I ask a question?

You have a religious issue with Atif's appointment, but you are living in the US which in the last few decades has run havoc in the Muslin world. What are your views on working in a country that is hostile to your religion?
 
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