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The fruitless search for the missing Malaysian Airlines jet might have to start all over again from scratch if no clues to its fate are found in coming days, it was claimed today.


The international team searching the Indian Ocean for the Boeing 777 are now considering the seemingly impossible scenario of the aircraft having 'landed' somewhere, instead of crashing in the southern Indian Ocean.

'We may have to regroup soon to look into this possibility if no positive results come back in the next few days,' sources within the International Investigation Team were quoted as telling the New Straits Times today.

While the sources have not suggested which country the aircraft might have landed - or crashed - in, the possibility that an entirely new search in a different area is in line with suggestions by the Mail weeks ago that alleged sightings of a low-flying aircraft could have located it in a different place than the ocean.

'The thought of it landing somewhere else is not impossible, as we have not found a single debris that could be linked to MH370,' sources were quoted as telling the paper.

'However, the possibility of a specific country hiding the plane when more than 20 nations are searching for it, seems absurd,' said the sources.

But they admitted that it was difficult to determine if the plane had really ended in the Indian Ocean, despite calculations seeming to point to that direction.

The Mail reported early in the search that fishermen and villagers living in north east Malaysia had filed official statements with police claiming to have seen - or heard - a low-flying aircraft at the time when MH370 lost all contact with ground control.

Their descriptions of a 'very loud engine' and headlights like those switched on by an aircraft about to land at night suggested that the aircraft was flying to the west, across jungle, very fast, at a low altitude.

The sources told the government-controlled paper that it was difficult to determine if the plane had really ended in the Indian Ocean, although calculations pointed to that direction.

The Malaysian-led investigation team, along with experts from Inmarsat and the UK's Air Accidents Investigation Branch, had to rely on an Inmarsat communications satellite, which did not provide any definite details, including the aircraft's direction, altitude and speed.

One of the sources told the New Straits Times: 'A communications satellite is meant for communication...the name is self explanatory.

'The reason investigators were forced to adopt a new algorithm to calculate the last known location of MH370 was because there was no global positioning system following the aircraft as the transponder went off 45 minutes into the flight.'

The source added that the international team was looking at adding more ships and aircraft to the existing search area in the Indian Ocean - as well as widening the area because there were fears that searchers had been 'looking for the plane in the wrong place'.

'We can't focus on one place too long as the ocean is very big, although the search team has been following the leads received and analysed.

'It is by luck if we find the wreckage using the Bluefin-21 (the US-owned underwater search vehicle).

'There is no physical evidence and we are totally depending on scientific calculations since day one, including the pings.'

With the search now into its 45th day, Malaysian authorities are hoping more countries will come forward to share their crucial satellite and radar data.

The paper said it understood that the team had not been receiving as much information from countries as it had hoped.

Suggesting that national security of various countries was involved, the source added: 'We have mainly been provided with selective data.'

The source said that because the information potentially involved the national security of the country from which it was requested, only partial raw data had been provided, making it difficult for Malaysian authorities to get the full picture.

'The data involved would be official information, so the (foreign) country cannot simply give it to us on paper or in soft copy - they will select only the ones that can be revealed.'

The Malaysians had asked the US government to view data collected by its secret base, Pine Gap, in the Australian outback.

But the request had been denied, sources said, after the US had said that no contact had been made with MH370.

'We can't be forcing them to show us the data, as they had already said there was nothing,' one source said.

MH370 search teams may be looking in wrong place as 'plane may have LANDED' | Mail Online
 
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The fruitless search for the missing Malaysian Airlines jet might have to start all over again from scratch if no clues to its fate are found in coming days, it was claimed today.


The international team searching the Indian Ocean for the Boeing 777 are now considering the seemingly impossible scenario of the aircraft having 'landed' somewhere, instead of crashing in the southern Indian Ocean.

'We may have to regroup soon to look into this possibility if no positive results come back in the next few days,' sources within the International Investigation Team were quoted as telling the New Straits Times today.

While the sources have not suggested which country the aircraft might have landed - or crashed - in, the possibility that an entirely new search in a different area is in line with suggestions by the Mail weeks ago that alleged sightings of a low-flying aircraft could have located it in a different place than the ocean.

'The thought of it landing somewhere else is not impossible, as we have not found a single debris that could be linked to MH370,' sources were quoted as telling the paper.

'However, the possibility of a specific country hiding the plane when more than 20 nations are searching for it, seems absurd,' said the sources.

But they admitted that it was difficult to determine if the plane had really ended in the Indian Ocean, despite calculations seeming to point to that direction.

The Mail reported early in the search that fishermen and villagers living in north east Malaysia had filed official statements with police claiming to have seen - or heard - a low-flying aircraft at the time when MH370 lost all contact with ground control.

Their descriptions of a 'very loud engine' and headlights like those switched on by an aircraft about to land at night suggested that the aircraft was flying to the west, across jungle, very fast, at a low altitude.

The sources told the government-controlled paper that it was difficult to determine if the plane had really ended in the Indian Ocean, although calculations pointed to that direction.

The Malaysian-led investigation team, along with experts from Inmarsat and the UK's Air Accidents Investigation Branch, had to rely on an Inmarsat communications satellite, which did not provide any definite details, including the aircraft's direction, altitude and speed.

One of the sources told the New Straits Times: 'A communications satellite is meant for communication...the name is self explanatory.

'The reason investigators were forced to adopt a new algorithm to calculate the last known location of MH370 was because there was no global positioning system following the aircraft as the transponder went off 45 minutes into the flight.'

The source added that the international team was looking at adding more ships and aircraft to the existing search area in the Indian Ocean - as well as widening the area because there were fears that searchers had been 'looking for the plane in the wrong place'.

'We can't focus on one place too long as the ocean is very big, although the search team has been following the leads received and analysed.

'It is by luck if we find the wreckage using the Bluefin-21 (the US-owned underwater search vehicle).

'There is no physical evidence and we are totally depending on scientific calculations since day one, including the pings.'

With the search now into its 45th day, Malaysian authorities are hoping more countries will come forward to share their crucial satellite and radar data.

The paper said it understood that the team had not been receiving as much information from countries as it had hoped.

Suggesting that national security of various countries was involved, the source added: 'We have mainly been provided with selective data.'

The source said that because the information potentially involved the national security of the country from which it was requested, only partial raw data had been provided, making it difficult for Malaysian authorities to get the full picture.

'The data involved would be official information, so the (foreign) country cannot simply give it to us on paper or in soft copy - they will select only the ones that can be revealed.'

The Malaysians had asked the US government to view data collected by its secret base, Pine Gap, in the Australian outback.

But the request had been denied, sources said, after the US had said that no contact had been made with MH370.

'We can't be forcing them to show us the data, as they had already said there was nothing,' one source said.

MH370 search teams may be looking in wrong place as 'plane may have LANDED' | Mail Online

Landed in my backyard, have been making a killing out of selling the scrap it yielded and the organs of the poor passengers whom I "put to sleep".
 
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Flight MH370 landed at sea/crashed at sea, same difference. And sank to a great depth. Pings have in general targeted plan'es approximate position on the bottom before batteries died where the crash took place.

It is a sad and tragic event.

I have my own "theory" which goes: It was on course. A wiring fire broke out silently, releasing unbreathable gas into all parts of the pressurized plane. The plan then changed course as the pilot/co-pilot were semi-conscious and directionally confused.

MH370 then flew on auto pilot until it's fuel ran out. Sad but final loss of life of all on board. Crashed at sea off SW Australian coast. Not easy to find, even with today's technology. US never found a airliner pilot some years ago who stole the "loot" opened a plane door and bailed out over the Rocky Mountains. He was never found.
 
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MH370 then flew on auto pilot until it's fuel ran out.

Very plausible given the scant facts. There was a cockpit fire in an Egyptair 777 on ground a few years ago. I believe it was linked to the FO's O2 supply. So severe was the damage to the cockpit that the aircraft was w/o.

US never found a airliner pilot some years ago who stole the "loot" opened a plane door and bailed out over the Rocky Mountains. He was never found

Unlike the the 727, the 777 does not have the option of built in airstairs in the tail.
 
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Very plausible given the scant facts. There was a cockpit fire in an Egyptair 777 on ground a few years ago. I believe it was linked to the FO's O2 supply. So severe was the damage to the cockpit that the aircraft was w/o.



Unlike the the 727, the 777 does not have the option of built in airstairs in the tail.

I appreciate your dry British humor.
 
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This has all the hints of a US military operation.

Only the US would do such thuggish crap.
 
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I have my own "theory" which goes: It was on course. A wiring fire broke out silently, releasing unbreathable gas into all parts of the pressurized plane. The plan then changed course as the pilot/co-pilot were semi-conscious and directionally confused.

MH370 then flew on auto pilot until it's fuel ran out. Sad but final loss of life of all on board. Crashed at sea off SW Australian coast. Not easy to find, even with today's technology. US never found a airliner pilot some years ago who stole the "loot" opened a plane door and bailed out over the Rocky Mountains. He was never found.

yes I do believe something similar happened.
I dont believe any country or any terrorist outfit would be able to hide it for so long.
 
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Flight MH370 landed at sea/crashed at sea, same difference. And sank to a great depth. Pings have in general targeted plan'es approximate position on the bottom before batteries died where the crash took place.

It is a sad and tragic event.

I have my own "theory" which goes: It was on course. A wiring fire broke out silently, releasing unbreathable gas into all parts of the pressurized plane. The plan then changed course as the pilot/co-pilot were semi-conscious and directionally confused.

MH370 then flew on auto pilot until it's fuel ran out. Sad but final loss of life of all on board. Crashed at sea off SW Australian coast. Not easy to find, even with today's technology. US never found a airliner pilot some years ago who stole the "loot" opened a plane door and bailed out over the Rocky Mountains. He was never found.

If there was a fire, pieces of the plane would have started falling right from when the plane changed direction upto the point where it met the sea - and it wouldnt have been too far away.
 
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What about third story?
An alien abduction :pissed:
 
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Pings have in general targeted plan'es approximate position on the bottom before batteries died where the crash took place.

From what I can remember, the satellite pings were vague enough to narrow the possibility to one of two paths: northern through India/Pak/Afghanistan, or southern to the current search location.

I don't know how final the analysis of those satellite pings is, and whether we might be told that there are other ways to interpret those pings.
 
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From what I can remember, the satellite pings were vague enough to narrow the possibility to one of two paths: northern through India/Pak/Afghanistan, or southern to the current search location.

I don't know how final the analysis of those satellite pings is, and whether we might be told that there are other ways to interpret those pings.

False statement regarding India and Pakistan. All pings were in the southern Indian Ocean off cost of Australia. You do a disservice to grieving families to play such tortured games with now long deceased family and friends somewhere under the seat off Australia. Shame on you.

If there was a fire, pieces of the plane would have started falling right from when the plane changed direction upto the point where it met the sea - and it wouldnt have been too far away.

Internal to the cabin and cockpit loss of oxygen, alone, without any fire, as likely was the cause. Question never to be anwered was it sabotage? Based on two Iranians with stolen passports I would think YES.
 
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False statement regarding India and Pakistan. All pings were in the southern Indian Ocean off cost of Australia. You do a disservice to grieving families to play such tortured games with now long deceased family and friends somewhere under the seat off Australia. Shame on you.

For a while, there was a possibility the plane might have gone north.

Missing MH370: Search extended up to Kazakhstan, down to Indian Ocean - Nation | The Star Online

That's why the Indian Navy was searching around the Andaman Islands, etc. There was a minor diplomatic issue with China being denied access to the Indian maritime zones.

PS. I agree the northern possibility is now abandoned, but it was considered a viable possibility for a while.
 
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Time Machine!! We need a "Time Machine" to solve Mysteries.
 
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