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MERCILESS MAYHEM - The Bangladesh Genocide through Pakistani Eyes

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More accusations and conjectures. NONE of which you have backed up with solid, genuine, reliable and compelling evidence.

What is solid, genuine, reliable and compelling evidence please explain? You are sounding more like a joke now.

Will you believe Imran Khan or he is still in conjectures?


Did you watch the video to see the snap shot what Pakistani army did specially the 2nd part where entire village was wiped out in 2 hour including raping womans?

 
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Yes for now but if ALL MAJOR ECONOMIC ORGANISATIONS are correct, BD will be an economic power in 2030.


Pakistan will need BD and BD will only help Pakistan if it makes a FULL and UNCONDITIONAL apology for 1947-1971.






FALSE. By 2030, China will be the leading global economic superpower/hyperpower of the world and Pakistan is China's staunchest ally. Already, the benefits of CPEC are being felt all over Pakistan and this is only set to grow exponentially as Chinese investments in Pakistan run ino the 100s of billions of dollars in the years leading up to 2030. This will not only make Pakistan are major economic power but also a rising major military power on the world stage.

bangladesh is too far, too different and too insignificant to be important to Pakistan. bangladesh is also 6× smaller than Pakistan in terms of area.

What is solid, genuine, reliable and compelling evidence please explain? You are sounding more like a joke now.

Will you believe Imran Khan or he is still in conjectures?


Did you watch the video to see the snap shot what Pakistani army did specially the 2nd part where entire village was wiped out in 2 hour including raping womans?





You tube clips are conjectural evidence. They need to be backed up HARD evidence which NO ONE has been able to produce since 1971.
 
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FALSE. By 2030, China will be the leading global economic superpower/hyperpower of the world and Pakistan is China's staunchest ally. Already, the benefits of CPEC are being felt all over Pakistan and this is only set to grow exponentially as Chinese investments in Pakistan run ino the 100s of billions of dollars in the years leading up to 2030. This will not only make Pakistan are major economic power but also a rising major military power on the world stage.

bangladesh is too far, too different and too insignificant to be important to Pakistan. banglsdesh is also 6× smaller than Pakistan in terms of area.


LOL. China is not Pakistan. It will not invest like in it's own regions.

Even with CPEC in full swing per capita growth in Pakistan is down to 2% this fiscal.

BD is at 7% per capita growth this year and could rise to 8% sustained next decade. ADB is very bullish on BD in it's recent report.

All that CPEC seems to be doing is stopping Pakistan from going into recession.

ALL MAJOR ECONOMIC organisations predict BD as an economic power in 2030. Pakistan will need BD and BD will only help with a FULL and UNCONDITIONAL apology for 1947-1971.
 
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FALSE. By 2030, China will be the leading global economic superpower/hyperpower of the world and Pakistan is China's staunchest ally. Already, the benefits of CPEC are being felt all over Pakistan and this is only set to grow exponentially as Chinese investments in Pakistan run ino the 100s of billions of dollars in the years leading up to 2030. This will not only make Pakistan are major economic power but also a rising major military power on the world stage.

bangladesh is too far, too different and too insignificant to be important to Pakistan. bangladesh is also 6× smaller than Pakistan in terms of area.






You tube clips are conjectural evidence. They need to be backed up HARD evidence which NO ONE has been able to produce since 1971.


Video of killing innocents are conjectural evidence? Are you for real or joke? Did you watch the video?

Which part of the video seemed conjectural evidence to you? By the way what is hard evidence? You want me to take you to 1971 with time machine to watch you live and it will become hard evidence that time?

By the way tell me did Imran Khan agreed in live tv about the genocide or not?


LOL. China is not Pakistan. It will not invest like in it's own regions.

Even with CPEC in full swing per capita growth in Pakistan is down to 2% this fiscal.

BD is at 7% per capita growth this year and could rise to 8% sustained next decade. ADB is very bullish on BD in it's recent report.

All that CPEC seems to be doing is stopping Pakistan from going into recession.

ALL MAJOR ECONOMIC organisations predict BD as an economic power in 2030. Pakistan will need BD and BD will only help with a FULL and UNCONDITIONAL apology for 1947-1971.


Why you are wasting time on this keyboard warrior which can not bring anything on board with reference, proof or evidence and sound just like broken tape recorder.

I have never seen any shameless creature like this.
 
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Why you are wasting time on this keyboard warrior which can not bring anything on board with reference, proof or evidence and sound just like broken tape recorder.

I have never seen any shameless creature like this.

Just for neutral posters to show he cannot debate facts.
 
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LOL. China is not Pakistan. It will not invest like in it's own regions.

Even with CPEC in full swing per capita growth in Pakistan is down to 2% this fiscal.

BD is at 7% per capita growth this year and could rise to 8% sustained next decade. ADB is very bullish on BD in it's recent report.

All that CPEC seems to be doing is stopping Pakistan from going into recession.

ALL MAJOR ECONOMIC organisations predict BD as an economic power in 2030. Pakistan will need BD and BD will only help with a FULL and UNCONDITIONAL apology for 1947-1971.





65 billion dollars worth of investments already via CPEC say otherwise :D Also the TOTs of advanced weapons from China to Pakistan under the CPEC framework have changed our economic and military outlook for the coming years. The investments are only set to grow as China moves away from the vulnerable straights of Mallacca. Gwadar and Pakistan's significance to China will grow as will China's energy needs, as it becomes a global superpower/hyperpower.........:D bangladesh is insignificant in all of this. The ONLY other country who will become significant to Pakistan in this time is Turkey. They are richer and more geographically closer to us than bangladesh.
 
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3,000 30,000 or 3 million.
The fact is atrocities occured.
The number doesn’t change that fact.

From a humanistic point of view, you are perfectly right. Even, undue loss of one human life is crime. Rape, in any case, is totally unacceptable and dastardly act. Though not relevant, but I consider all those Bengali women as my own sisters, who unfortunately have to go through this ordeal owing to criminal acts of certain Pakistani elements, whether from army or otherwise.

But, you must realize that Pakistan was carrying out a counter insurgency operation in East Pakistan, believing and thinking that it is integral part of Pakistan. There is hardly any example, in history, where atrocities were not committed in the counter insurgency operations, from either sides, more so from the state side. One reason is that generally, under such circumstances, established law and order declines and law enforcing agencies are granted extraordinary powers, which they sometimes misuse. This is a hard fact of politics and there is hardly any exception to it.

Numbers become important, not from a humanistic point of view, but from practical point of view, to establish, whether the state forces were using undue force and means to curb the insurgency. For example, if one accepts the figure of 26,000 civilian casualties, in a counter insurgency operation, extended over a period of 6 months, against the potent force of Mukti Bahni; no sane person would declare it undue or term it genocide.

Having said all that I have said, I am of the view that the counter insurgency operation, carried out by Pakistan, in March 1971 and onward, was totally unjustified and a gross blunder, which then Pakistan had to pay for with the surrender of its forces and its aftermath. In my view, after the break down of talk between Bhutto and Sheikh Mujeeb, in March 1971, and their failure to arrive at an agreed constitutional framework, Pakistan, on its own, shall have, by mutual consent, given East Pakistan its due liberation and brought its whole state machinery, back to Pakistan, under an agreed arrangement. That was the real solution; but General Yahya did't had the courage and guts to implement this logical and sane solution.
 
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Just for neutral posters to show he cannot debate facts.




Can anyone debate facts such as 3 million bengalis killed and 10 million bengali women raped by 50,000 PA soldiers in less than 2 months in 1971?
 
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65 billion dollars worth of investments already via CPEC say otherwise :D Also the TOTs of advanced weapons from China to Pakistan under the CPEC framework have changed our economic and military outlook for the coming years. The investments are only set to grow as China moves away from the vulnerable straights of Mallacca. Gwadar and Pakistan's significance to China will grow as will China's energy needs, as it becomes a global superpower/hyperpower.........:D bangladesh is insignificant in all of this. The ONLY other country who will become significant to Pakistan in this time is Turkey. They are richer and more geographically closer to us than bangladesh.



China has promised to invest around 30 billion US dollars in BD up to 2030.

What is the big deal here?

PS - BD is 1000km closer to Pakistan than Pakistan is to Turkey.
 
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The whole thing was based on false assumptions. GDP of West and East Pakistan were equal.

The issue of language is especially interesting. Why is Urdu considered a West Pakistani language? At partition, only about 5% of West Pakistanis spoke Urdu as a native language. If it was about east vs west then Punjabi should have been the national language since it was and is the most commonly spoken language in West Pakistan. Bengalis wanted supremacy for their race and their language since there is no other justification for having Bengali as a national language. A win for ethno-nationalists.

I am pretty sure Bangladesh will realize its mistakes in near future. When you put yourself in a smaller box based around ethnicity and language then your nation becomes a small group of people with no strength.
 
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From a humanistic point of view, you are perfectly right. Even, undue loss of one human life is crime. Rape, in any case, is totally unacceptable and dastardly act. Though not relevant, but I consider all those Bengali women as my own sisters, who unfortunately have to go through this ordeal owing to criminal acts of certain Pakistani elements, whether from army or otherwise.

But, you must realize that Pakistan was carrying out a counter insurgency operation in East Pakistan, believing and thinking that it is integral part of Pakistan. There is hardly any example, in history, where atrocities were not committed in the counter insurgency operations, from either sides, more so from the state side. One reason is that generally, under such circumstances, established law and order declines and law enforcing agencies are granted extraordinary powers, which they sometimes misuse. This is a hard fact of politics and there is hardly any exception to it.

Numbers become important, not from a humanistic point of view, but from practical point of view, to establish, whether the state forces were using undue force and means to curb the insurgency. For example, if one accepts the figure of 26,000 civilian casualties, in a counter insurgency operation, extended over a period of 6 months, against the potent force of Mukti Bahni; no sane person would declare it undue or term it genocide.

Having said all that I have said, I am of the view that the counter insurgency operation, carried out by Pakistan, in March 1971 and onward, was totally unjustified and a gross blunder, which then Pakistan had to pay for with the surrender of its forces and its aftermath. In my view, after the break down of talk between Bhutto and Sheikh Mujeeb, in March 1971, and their failure to arrive at an agreed constitutional framework, Pakistan, on its own, shall have, by mutual consent, given East Pakistan its due liberation and brought its whole state machinery, back to Pakistan, under an agreed arrangement. That was the real solution; but General Yahya did't had the courage and guts to implement this logical and sane solution.

I appreciate your comments in this most reasonable post.
 
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Guys good night. I need to sleep. I can not ruin my Sunday while discussing with keyboard warrior who is continuously sounding like broken recorder which could not even define what is hard evidence. I am curious to know what kind of evidence is considered as hard evidence at Pakistani court for murder cases... if no testimony, eye witness account, news report, video footage, including any scientific research is accepted and considered as conjecture, I believe no one is ever found guilty for murder in Pakistan. No wonder with that standard to this fella no genocide has happened in Bangladesh. Taliban and other terrorists are getting free hand to kill people.
 
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China has promised to invest around 30 billion US dollars in BD up to 2030.

What is the big deal here?

PS - BD is 1000km closer to Pakistan than Pakistan is to Turkey.




The big deal is continued growing investments from China to Pakistan which will run into the $100s of billions of dollars, which is not stopping. The continued TOTs of advanced weapons systems from China to Pakistan. The global strategic importance of Pakistan to China. The strong military alliance between Pakistan and the Chinese superpower.

After China, ONLY Turkey matters to us. All other nations are meaningless to Pakistan.
 
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