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Memories of a girl in Undivided India

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Story was published in Issue 8, may 2011


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A pleasure to read. Things seemed so much simpler and trust was not in short supply. Today the author would have faced a very different fate.
 
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A pleasure to read. Things seemed so much simpler and trust was not in short supply. Today the author would have faced a very different fate.

Yes, a much "simpler" life for the elite who sucked up to the british.

While the average Indian begged for "phaan" (rice water) for his starving family for 7 years :coffee:

What a "lovely" tale.
 
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Yes, a much "simpler" life for the elite who sucked up to the british.

While the average Indian begged for "phaan" (rice water) for his starving family for 7 years :coffee:

What a "lovely" tale.

You misunderstand me. Life was simpler because we did not have the worries of following miles of red tape, people were more prepared to use discretion to assist others, fewer scams and a lot of trust.

Elites have always had it easy and always will. If you think elite classes are somehow more equal today (than in the 1950s) you're mistaken. If anything money can buy many perks today that it could not in 1950.

Anyway a railways service officer in 1950s was less elite than the ones in 2017. Back then corruption was low, expectations modest and aspirations under control. Today any tom, dick, harry Group A/B/C government servant believes the country is his personal fiefdom and detest being thought of as 'equal'.
 
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You misunderstand me. Life was simpler because we did not have the worries of following miles of red tape, people were more prepared to use discretion to assist others, fewer scams and a lot of trust.

I think I understand it perfectly well.

Life was simple because No one gave a $hit about Indians and accountability. Red tape did not exist because the british could do what they wanted and get away with it.

People used discretion because the law did not matter, knowing the right people did.


Elites have always had it easy and always will. If you think elite classes are somehow more equal today (than in the 1950s) you're mistaken. If anything money can buy many perks today that it could not in 1950.

You have no clue what you are talking about.

The "elite" class of british time do not even EXIST today :lol:

British traveled in First Class and Second Class (Indians were barred). Indians traveled in third class and Fourth Class.

This is what the First class and second class looked like,

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Second Class,
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THIS is how Indians traveled,

Third Class,

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Forth Class,

This was just a wagon with doors and windows. Not even benches :lol:

Finally the unofficial Fifth Class for Indians,

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Anyway a railways service officer in 1950s was less elite than the ones in 2017. Back then corruption was low, expectations modest and aspirations under control. Today any tom, dick, harry Group A/B/C government servant believes the country is his personal fiefdom and detest being thought of as 'equal'.

LOL.... you must be joking.

Railway service was reserved primarily for the Anglo Indians during british Raj. The British favored the Anglo-Indians. They were allowed into social clubs run by the British, while Indians were excluded. In turn, they barred Indians from their own clubs. More importantly, jobs were reserved for them, mostly on the railways, and in the post and customs departments.

Anglo Indians = bastard children of british men who fathered children from Indian women.


The Railways was built in India at THREE TIMES the cost of equivalent railways in rest of the world. Corruption was a way of life back then.

I have to agree that back then "expectations modest and aspirations under control". The Railways back then existed to serve the minuscule 1,50,000 odd white Britishers in India and not the 400 Million Indians.

The ONLY expectations were from the British. The Indians had NO Expectations and No Aspiration except freedom from British Tyranny.


Thank god today any Ram, Dutt or Hari can think of themselves as "equal". This was UNTHINKABLE in the British raj. They most they could aspire for was to serve as the foot soldier to the Raj and lay out the China when the "queen"comes visiting. :sick:


Let me leave you with Final image of how British and Indians lived in the "good old days" of the raj.

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In their very conception and construction, the Indian railways were a Massive colonial SCAM of epic proportion.

British shareholders made absurd amounts of money by investing in the railways, where the government guaranteed returns double those of government stocks, paid entirely from Indian, and not British, taxes.

It was a splendid racket for every Britons, at the expense of the Indian taxpayer. What better way to doubling your money by doing nothing, while the Indians starved to "enjoy" the british railways.


But Wait, it gets better.

The British view of the time was that the railways would have to be staffed almost exclusively by Europeans to “protect investments”.

This was especially true of signalmen, and those who operated and repaired the steam trains, but the policy was extended to the absurd level that even in the early 20th century all the key employees, from directors of the Railway Board to ticket-collectors, were white men – whose salaries and benefits were also paid at European, not Indian, levels and largely repatriated back to England.

Whatever role was left, was handed over to the Anglo Indians.


You think that is all ? wait, it gets even better,


The railway workshops in Jamalpur in Bengal and Ajmer in Rajputana were established in 1862 to maintain the trains, but their Indian mechanics became so adept that in 1878 they started designing and building their own locomotives.

Their success increasingly alarmed the British, since the Indian locomotives were just as good, and a great deal cheaper, than the British-made ones.

So In 1912, the British passed an act of parliament explicitly making it impossible for Indian workshops to design and manufacture locomotives.

Between 1854 and 1947, India imported around 14,400 locomotives from England, and another 3,000 from Canada, the US and Germany, but made none in India after 1912.
 
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I don't see the point of posting photographs of colonial india and ranting against british injustice. My post is in relation to the 1950s - as far as what they taught me India was already an independent country by then - and a republic to boot. Unless you want to dispute that.

I stand by everything I said. Plenty of what the author of that article writes would be impossible to do today. Try writing a letter to a chief minister and getting a quick response [or any response]. If a government official is requested to relax a condition try finding one who will agree to do it without money. Try finding someone who refuses to submit a false declaration to get his/her kid in a prestigous college. See what happens to someone in need of medical help on the roadside, in a platform, in a train. Every traffic light has an unending stream of entitled people merrily breaking the law - unthinkable in the 50s. In 1961 my grandfather, then a GOI secretary used to personally drive his personal [and second hand] morris minor to office in New Delhi - as he had been doing since he bought that car 8 years prior at an auction. in 1959 he parked his car at a no-parking area and had to spend a day getting it released. Today his successor in that position gets a massive government sponsored SUV with colourful lights, a driver, two delhi police cops for protection, immunity from no-parking zones and whizzes by some of the annoying traffic signals. Even a director-grade officer (5 levels junior) gets more perks - so much for equality in the 2000s. Don't make me laugh.

We may have developed in some ways - such as ease of ticket booking, but in plenty of others we've gone in the reverse direction.
 
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I don't see the point of posting photographs of colonial india and ranting against british injustice. My post is in relation to the 1950s - as far as what they taught me India was already an independent country by then - and a republic to boot. Unless you want to dispute that.

Legacy of a 150 years of misgovernance and organised Loot cannot be wished away in a decade or even 2.

The legacy took time to purged completely.

By the 50s, 40 per cent Anglo-Indians were drivers; officers and engineers were a mere 5 per cent. In the 80s, this dwindled down to 10 per cent - mainly drivers and guards.

That is how long it takes to reform the system that was never designed to serve India or Indians.

I stand by everything I said. Plenty of what the author of that article writes would be impossible to do today. Try writing a letter to a chief minister and getting a quick response [or any response]. If a government official is requested to relax a condition try finding one who will agree to do it without money. Try finding someone who refuses to submit a false declaration to get his/her kid in a prestigous college. See what happens to someone in need of medical help on the roadside, in a platform, in a train. Every traffic light has an unending stream of entitled people merrily breaking the law - unthinkable in the 50s. In 1961 my grandfather, then a GOI secretary used to personally drive his personal [and second hand] morris minor to office in New Delhi - as he had been doing since he bought that car 8 years prior at an auction. in 1959 he parked his car at a no-parking area and had to spend a day getting it released. Today his successor in that position gets a massive government sponsored SUV with colourful lights, a driver, two delhi police cops for protection, immunity from no-parking zones and whizzes by some of the annoying traffic signals. Even a director-grade officer (5 levels junior) gets more perks - so much for equality in the 2000s. Don't make me laugh.

We may have developed in some ways - such as ease of ticket booking, but in plenty of others we've gone in the reverse direction.

Things are a LOT better today. Try sending a Tweet to the Railway minister and see an immediate response.

THANK GOD we do not find railway officers who are ready to "relax" conditions. The Law is applicable for for all today.

A Majority of Indians today will refuse to give false declarations for their kids and give them a short cut in life in life. Most tell their kids to work hard and make the grades.

As for getting medical help in railways, how many examples do you need ?

http://www.ndtv.com/offbeat/father-...d-son-after-tweeting-railway-minister-1292868

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...-wheelchair/story-pt3nK5tqeV7XnDH3XhTcFJ.html

http://indianexpress.com/article/tr...lative-and-he-reaches-out-in-no-time-3100020/

In 1960's a govt. job used to be prestigious and most powerful in India.

Today is the age of internet millionaires, Billionaires and graduates who earn a annual salary of more than 1 crore.

Got. perks have merely kept pace with the changing times.

Today govt. servants get slapped around my ministers and shiv saniks. You Bet they are FAR more equal that they used to be in the 50's.


I cannot even think of even a SINGLE way in which the Railways have gone Backward. Maybe for the elite, but certainly not for the vast majority of Indians.
 
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British shareholders made absurd amounts of money by investing in the railways, where the government guaranteed returns double those of government stocks, paid entirely from Indian, and not British, taxes.
yup thats colonialism, shitty business model of making profit by indulging in industrial scale cheating.
There is another good example,
levy heavy taxes on farmers.
farmers cannot pay the taxes.
seize the farm produce which is cotton as payment for taxes.
spin cloth out of cotton and sell it back to farmers at higher price than cotton.
lo & behold you have perfect business model that always gives profit.

The day gandhi started spinning yarn and stopped buying salt. economic model went to a tail spin. Most of the investments made was for their business purpose. Instead of acknowledging they just spun a loony tale of benefiting the natives and some third rate native jerks propagate it for their own benefit.
 
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yup thats colonialism, shitty business model of making profit by indulging in industrial scale cheating.
There is another good example,
levy heavy taxes on farmers.
farmers cannot pay the taxes.
seize the farm produce which is cotton as payment for taxes.
spin cloth out of cotton and sell it back to farmers at higher price than cotton.
lo & behold you have perfect business model that always gives profit.

The day gandhi started spinning yarn and stopped buying salt. economic model went to a tail spin. Most of the investments made was for their business purpose. Instead of acknowledging they just spun a loony tale of benefiting the natives and some third rate native jerks propagate it for their own benefit.

And yet we find jokers who get "nostalgic" about the "good old days" :lol:

I can understand when the british do that, but to find Indians say it is outrageous.

Vast amount of public funds spent to keep these Railway babu's in style :sick: ......while the rest of India used bullock carts and hand pulled rickshaws.


Its no wonder the CONgress got to get away with most of what it did. These morons cheered the "british ways" of the CONgress leader and kept voting for the "good old days".
 
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Legacy of a 150 years of misgovernance and organised Loot cannot be wished away in a decade or even 2.

Convenient shifting of goal post when you get caught.

A Majority of Indians today will refuse to give false declarations for their kids and give them a short cut in life in life. Most tell their kids to work hard and make the grades.

As for getting medical help in railways, how many examples do you need ?

On what basis do you say that? I was in academia in India for a bit between grad and doctoral - teaching at a prestigious central, autonomous university - with first hand experience of the shenanigans parents resort to get their kid into some quota or the other, including cheerfully lying outright, offering bribes subtlety, threatening to call ministers, etc. False declarations on citizenship, income, caste, domicile, date of birth, etc. are commonly offered.

Instances of neglect. In the 1950s an injured man would die because we did not have medical facilities or doctors. Today an injured man dies because of apathy. The Nirbhaya rape case had passers by walking next to the bus and yet no one came forward.

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/1409...-rail-officials-blind-injured-man-crying-pain

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...man-to-die-on-street/articleshow/53661061.cms

http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Defa...1/25&ViewMode=HTML&EntityId=Ar02001&AppName=1

https://www.pressreader.com/india/the-times-of-india-new-delhi-edition/20170206/282011852095889

http://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2013/01/05/delhi-rape-why-did-no-one-help/

Today govt. servants get slapped around my ministers and shiv saniks. You Bet they are FAR more equal that they used to be in the 50's.

Right. And they in turn slap around others lower in the food chain and the process continues. The only reason you relish their slapping is schadenfreude - likely because you've been at the receiving end of some government officer's ire (as have most of us). This slapping culture is poisonous and sets us on a road to mob justice - no doubt you will cite that as progress.

I try and talk to old people of my grandparent's generation as much as I can - to understand their view about India in 1950 and 2017. They are mostly unanimous that while material conveniences have improved, courtesy, trust and other human values have decreased.

What is a fact is that income inequality in india has increased every year to extremely high levels (we now have one of the highest gini coefficients in the world, with a ridiculously low baseline (to contrast with the US)) and that kind of inequality has worsened since independence instead of getting better. To put it simply Indians today are more inequal than they have ever been before. I am happy to recommend some further reading for you if you like.

We can blame the British to an extent - and I do so every now and then for some of their practices. But there's no excuse for what has happened after independence and whatever their faults the people of the 1950s are not responsible for the corrupt behaviour of a Group C government officer today. Anyway you're the sort of chap I detest - who glorifies slapping people and blaming your current failures on our grandparent's generation - I bet given a chance you'd assault someone for a perceived wrong, no different to what that thug of a Shiv Sena did recently.

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And yet we find jokers who get "nostalgic" about the "good old days" :lol:

I can understand when the british do that, but to find Indians say it is outrageous.

Vast amount of public funds spent to keep these Railway babu's in style :sick: ......while the rest of India used bullock carts and hand pulled rickshaws.


Its no wonder the CONgress got to get away with most of what it did. These morons cheered the "british ways" of the CONgress leader and kept voting for the "good old days".
And yet an indian bought EIC. How times have changed
 
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Convenient shifting of goal post when you get caught.

LOL.... I was caught doing what ? :lol: Educating a ignorant boob ?

On what basis do you say that? I was in academia in India for a bit between grad and doctoral - teaching at a prestigious central, autonomous university - with first hand experience of the shenanigans parents resort to get their kid into some quota or the other, including cheerfully lying outright, offering bribes subtlety, threatening to call ministers, etc. False declarations on citizenship, income, caste, domicile, date of birth, etc. are commonly offered.

Yes, your personal anecdotes is what passes for "facts" in your parallel universe where Indians desire the "good old days".

I have lived in India for more than a few decades, so I can safely say that I know India MUCH better than you.

Instances of neglect. In the 1950s an injured man would die because we did not have medical facilities or doctors. Today an injured man dies because of apathy. The Nirbhaya rape case had passers by walking next to the bus and yet no one came forward.

In 1950 the Life expectancy of the average Indian was 27 Years , Today the life expectancy is the average India is 68 Years. :lol: This is the Reality of India, based on FACTS.

Your Opinions means LESS THAN squat.


Right. And they in turn slap around others lower in the food chain and the process continues. The only reason you relish their slapping is schadenfreude - likely because you've been at the receiving end of some government officer's ire (as have most of us). This slapping culture is poisonous and sets us on a road to mob justice - no doubt you will cite that as progress.

In the ENTIRE 200 years that the British ruled India, only THREE cases can be found of Englishmen executed for murdering Indians, while the murders of thousands more at British hands went unpunished.

The death of an Indian at British hands was always an accident, and that of a Briton because of an Indian’s actions always a capital crime. When a British master kicked an Indian servant in the stomach – a not uncommon form of conduct in those days – the Indian’s resultant death from a ruptured spleen would be blamed on "his having an enlarged spleen as a result of malaria".

Englishmen who shot dead his Indian servant got six months’ jail time and a modest fine (then about 100 rupees), while an Indian convicted of attempted rape against an Englishwoman was sentenced to 20 years of rigorous imprisonment.

So feel free to mourn the "good old days", while the rest of us laugh in your face.


I try and talk to old people of my grandparent's generation as much as I can - to understand their view about India in 1950 and 2017. They are mostly unanimous that while material conveniences have improved, courtesy, trust and other human values have decreased.

Indians do not need bank on "favours" and "trust" any more. We now get to rely on the Law and order.

We are not there yet, but we are firmly on that path.

The less we depend on "human values" to substitute for public service the better we will become.

What is a fact is that income inequality in india has increased every year to extremely high levels (we now have one of the highest gini coefficients in the world, with a ridiculously low baseline (to contrast with the US)) and that kind of inequality has worsened since independence instead of getting better. To put it simply Indians today are more inequal than they have ever been before. I am happy to recommend some further reading for you if you like.

The pendulum has swung the wrong way during the CONgress rule. But it will soon swing the other way in the near Future.

All you need to watch history as it unfolds right before your eyes.

We can blame the British to an extent - and I do so every now and then for some of their practices. But there's no excuse for what has happened after independence and whatever their faults the people of the 1950s are not responsible for the corrupt behaviour of a Group C government officer today. Anyway you're the sort of chap I detest - who glorifies slapping people and blaming your current failures on our grandparent's generation - I bet given a chance you'd assault someone for a perceived wrong, no different to what that thug of a Shiv Sena did recently.

+1 to my Ignore list

LOL.... I have no time to waste on my grand parents generation and their foolish Nostalgia.

I live in the present and look towards the Future. And I certainly do not need your "Certificate" or your "recommendations" to get on with my life :lol: How small that must make you feel.

I will leave you with an ode to the British Boot, (since you are such a Fan)


The British Boot,

O THE proud British name ’tis a glory to bear,
So suggestive of all that is manly and fair!
The brave British Flag we have flaunted unfurled,
Till that bright bit of bunting’s the “bore” of the world !
And who has been ever yet found to resist
That modern Thor’s hammer, the true British fist ?
But now we must sing
Quite a different thing,
Long the lord of the seas and the pride of the Ring,
Let JOHN BuLL, with the world and his wife at his foot,
Lift a paean in praise of the stout British Boot!

“There’s nothing like leather!” We used to proclaim
That the knife was a sin-the savate was a shame.
Our foes to chastise, or to chasten our wives,
What so manly and frank as a right “bunch of fives,”
Shot straight from the shoulder ? We’ve altered all that,
We stick, and we kick-in despite of the Cat!
No horn’d epidermis
So hard and so firm is,
For “nobbling” our wives, such the delicate term is,-
As the thick leather sole, with stiff “uppers” to suit,
Of that sweetest of weapons, the stout British Boot !

Are our spouses remiss ? We’ll their memory jog
With a brisk application of Lancashire clog;
That is better than manual punches or “fibs”
To smash in and settle importunate “ribs”!
Effective enforcer of marital rights,
Companion and backer in “five to one” fights ‘!
Our old British pluck
Has decidedly struck,
In enlisting your service, a new vein of luck.
Pint-pot, knuckle-duster, and PAT’S oaken “shoot,”
All pale in thy glory, thou stout British Boot !

British pluck! Why, of course we’re the bravest of men,
We bulldoggy Britons! With tongue and with pen
We’ve been telling the universe that, for so long!
In each patriot speech, and each national song.
What a theme it has been for sell-soaping and bounce!
Yes, we know our unique fighting-weight to an ounce !
‘Tis a militant land,
And we keep in our hand
By thumping our women and weaklings. That’s grand.
And not only our hand we’11 keep in. but our foot,
By a liberal use of the stout British Boot !

Unmanly? Pah! Out on such sugary stuff!
JOHN BULL is no “molly”; he’s best in the rough.
Your “chivalry” means, as a matter of course,
Just depriving a chap of the use of his force.
Nature favours a fellow with vigorous muscles,
To give him the pull of the women in tussles.
Legs sturdy and thick
Were intended to kick,
(We are learning that lesson in time double quick,)
And, as toes may be tender, we’11 furnish each foot
With the rough’s vade mecum, the stout British Boot !

There are fools who aver that the chap is a cur
Who’d admonish his wife with a kick or a purr;
That the Cat is a creature too good for the dog
Who would smash his wife’s ribs in with brazen-bound clog.
Most absurd, for all Britons are brave, and the kick
Is becoming their favourite militant trick.
We must alter our song,
“Hearts of Oak,” true as strong,
Have monopolised chorus and cheer far too long.
Let us sing, let us shout for the leather-shod foot,
And inscribe on our Banners ” The Stout British Boot !
 
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http://ommcomnews.com/public/hear-t...ajdhani-express-by-tweeting-railway-minister-

Bhubaneswar: After getting her molester arrested on Rajdhani Express within 15 minutes of the heinous act on Thursday, the brave Odia girl spoke exclusively to OMMCOM NEWS saying that this incident should be a lesson to the eve-teasers and molesters who attempt such crimes.

While speaking exclusively to OMMCOM NEWS, the 19-year-old Odia student of Delhi University hailing from Bhubaneswar voiced out her anger against the middle aged molester on board Rajdhani Express. Here’s what she has to say about the accused who had the guts to grope her in broad daylight.

“It was around 11 am and I went to my upper berth to rest a while as I was not feeling well. After a while, I felt a hand groping my chest. I was numb. I saw the man who was in the side berth running towards the washroom.That man was of my father's age, the one whom I had noticed talking to his daughter over the phone in the morning. I woke up and asked him if he had tried molesting me while I was asleep and the reply was a "No" ( as expected ) when I could clearly see how nervous he was and his body language said it all. I screamed at him at the top of my voice and he admitted his crime”.

“I informed my father about it and tweeted in social media unable to control my anger. Within a span of 15 minutes, I saw some GRP officials in my compartment asking me about the incident. I thought my father must have called some of his friends in Railways. It is only the next day when I reached Delhi, I got to know through my friends that the Railway Minister had an active role in this whole act. I am overwhelmed by the immediate response of the Minister and thank him and the GRP team who came to my rescue so quickly. Moreover, I would like to thank my friend who re-tweeted tagging Surest Prabhu,” she added.

When asked on the advice which she would like to give to the young girls travelling alone, she said, “The girls should not keep quiet. They should voice out and point out the accused in public, so that he would be embarrassed enough and think twice before doing such crime again. Keeping mum on these issues encourages these molesters.”

She further clarifies her stand on the conservative mentality of some people in the Indian society in her Facebook post,” Here i must mention that I wasn't sleeping shirtless or wearing anything that exposed my skin which could act as an "invitation" for men to come and touch me as some people believe´ I realised that no matter how much we talk about women safety, there are going to be this handful of uncivilised, shameless men who are going to act like animals.”

The 50-year-old accused, identified as Baniprasad Mohanty, was arrested by the GRP officials who de-boarded him at Tatanagar railway station. An FIR was lodged by the victim on board in the compartment.

The man was produced in the court later in the day.

Meanwhile, the Railway Minister Suresh Prabu re-tweeted the OMMCOM NEWS article saying: "There can be no compromise when it comes to safety of our women passengers. Any deviance will be dealt severely.
 
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...s-rs-6-15l-to-owners/articleshow/57844530.cms

AHMEDABAD: An attendant found an unattended bag belonging to two passengers in New Delhi-Ahmedabad Rajdhani Express on Sunday morning and handed it over to superiors and Railway Protection Force at Ajmer Junction. When the bag was opened it contained Rs 6.15 lakh in cash along with 45 notes of foreign currency. "The bag belonged to two women passengers of B3 coach who were tracked down on the basis of their contact details and on Sunday evening, the bag was handed over to them," said a Railways official adding, "Govardhan, the attendant, would be felicitated for his honesty and presence of mind."
 
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