Meet the New Breed of Kashmir Militants: Anti-Pakistan

[Kaniska]

A very simple understanding as I will repeat again that Everyone of Kashmir Struggle will convince people in the name of respective affiliation against one common enemy as India in IoK. You are convinced with your simplicity and I am not here to convince you with another thing so you can carry on with you understanding of IoK yet it is all about strategy. It is a religious fight because India said so but none other believe it as it isn't at all. TTP always said the same as in the name of Islam and not for territory and this is the same pattern which speaks volume of strategy, India trying to apply in IoK as well.



Is that the subject here? Hey! whole NATO is fighting ISIS including Russia but of no avail till now as conventional military war is far different than Militia/Gorilla war like war against ISIS/AQ type factions. Iraq etc were quoted as ISIS Entry point like in this so called article, IoK can be compared with those countries when ISIS shows presence and IA is going against. There was no mentioning of India being those countries.

Regards,

To some extent I agree with you..As of now, Kashmir sepratism is limited between Indian stakeholder in Kashmir, Indian security establishment, Pakistan Army and Kashmir separatist...With the arrival of ISIS, things will go out of hand for all of the mentioned stakeholders...It is definitely a situation where India, Pakistan and political leaders of Kashmir should really focus and discuss about it....Because, ISIS is always looking for ground to exapnd its base, there is a very thing line to differentiate between independent separatist movemnt and engagement of ISIS into the movement...Niether Pakistan nor India would like to see such situation in future.

 

[Fledgingwings]

the saudi/ISIS version of Islam says nationalism is haram, all they want is a global caliphate where sharia is supreme.

the jihadi rebels hate both India and Pakistan.

Mind it only if and when it knocks on YOUR door.till then stop your bak bak as you have no idea how it works for either side.

 

[patman]

This is what happens when you destabilize a provinces, the snakes come back to bite

 

[Tshering22]

Mind it only if and when it knocks on YOUR door.till then stop your bak bak as you have no idea how it works for either side.

It is already knocking at our door. For years, there was this veil of fake nationalism which was maintained as a guise to take J&K with force.

Now these loonies are openly claiming that it was never about culture or sovereignty but for religion. Hence what happened in 1990s, happened.

So yes It has come to our door and we are going to deal with it.

The question is, are you ready for this? Because based on what most Pakistanis talk here, they have a passionate love for their country.

ISIS doesn't attack head on; it will brainwash your youth to start attacking from within.

Wake up before it is too late. Your dislike for us will end up consuming you.

 

[illusion8]

It is already knocking at our door. For years, there was this veil of fake nationalism which was maintained as a guise to take J&K with force.

Now these loonies are openly claiming that it was never about culture or sovereignty but for religion. Hence what happened in 1990s, happened.

So yes It has come to our door and we are going to deal with it.

The question is, are you ready for this? Because based on what most Pakistanis talk here, they have a passionate love for their country.

ISIS doesn't attack head on; it will brainwash your youth to start attacking from within.

Wake up before it is too late. Your dislike for us will end up consuming you.

Salafism and Wahaabism has deep rooted presence in the Kashmir valley.

“The traditional benign Sufi Islam is fast giving way to ultra-conservative and fundamentalist Salafi Islam which is
expanding the catchment area for jihadi terror groups… In village after village, new Salafi mosques are mushrooming to overshadow the old Sufi mosques. In fact, Sufi shrines are being systematically targeted as being un-Islamic. While older generation Kashmiris may still go to the Sufi mosques, the excitable youth are flocking to Salafi mosques which spoon-feed them a highly distorted version of world events to show how Islam is under threat and Muslims an endangered species. The siege mentality thus engendered is helping recruit cadres for jihad.”

“From time to time, the Indian government has warned of the dangers of the rise of puritanical, Saudi-style Islam in India. Most recently, during the unrest in Kashmir, when it warned it will not allow a 'Wahhabi theocracy' to take root in the Valley”.

Salafi preacher in one of the scores of salafi mosques in Kashmir "Dekha Salafiyon ka kamal, jab salafi maidan men utarte hain to wapis naam lene ka kabhi sochte hi nahi. Ham Islami hukumat qaim kar ke rahenge. Iraq men dekho Abu Bakr naam ke salafi ki hukumat…..kashmir men anqareeb inshaAllah Islami jhanda gaad diya jaega….”

Kashmir struggle effectively became a religious movement as soon as the Kashmiri Pandits were driven away from the Valley. Had they remained, and campaigned for this so-called Kashmiriyat, it would have made sense. Now all that remains is a bunch of Muslims, many of whom do not wish to remain with the Kafir state.

The radicalization is taking a drastic turn towards extreme forms of Islam, Kashmir valley - where most of the trouble happens and where most of the Kashmiri muslims live is turning into a hotbead of Wahaabism and salafism. An estimate indicates 35% of the Kashmir valley population is now indoctrinated in these two extremist thought.

 

[Trango Towers]

Why bold the whole article? Looool

How many attacks by kashmiris against Pakistan vs india

 

[Jacob Martin]

Salafism and Wahaabism has deep rooted presence in the Kashmir valley.

“The traditional benign Sufi Islam is fast giving way to ultra-conservative and fundamentalist Salafi Islam which is
expanding the catchment area for jihadi terror groups… In village after village, new Salafi mosques are mushrooming to overshadow the old Sufi mosques. In fact, Sufi shrines are being systematically targeted as being un-Islamic. While older generation Kashmiris may still go to the Sufi mosques, the excitable youth are flocking to Salafi mosques which spoon-feed them a highly distorted version of world events to show how Islam is under threat and Muslims an endangered species. The siege mentality thus engendered is helping recruit cadres for jihad.”

“From time to time, the Indian government has warned of the dangers of the rise of puritanical, Saudi-style Islam in India. Most recently, during the unrest in Kashmir, when it warned it will not allow a 'Wahhabi theocracy' to take root in the Valley”.

Salafi preacher in one of the scores of salafi mosques in Kashmir "Dekha Salafiyon ka kamal, jab salafi maidan men utarte hain to wapis naam lene ka kabhi sochte hi nahi. Ham Islami hukumat qaim kar ke rahenge. Iraq men dekho Abu Bakr naam ke salafi ki hukumat…..kashmir men anqareeb inshaAllah Islami jhanda gaad diya jaega….”





The radicalization is taking a drastic turn towards extreme forms of Islam, Kashmir valley - where most of the trouble happens and where most of the Kashmiri muslims live is turning into a hotbead of Wahaabism and salafism. An estimate indicates 35% of the Kashmir valley population is now indoctrinated in these two extremist thought.

While the primary failure is that of the state government, the central government cannot absolve itself in this matter as well. They have been caught napping as this could not have happened overnight.

Wahhabi/Salafi radicalization is the worst form of self-fulfilling prophecy. It turns the youth into indoctrinated, hateful, and unproductive trouble-makers. The misery that such an approach heaps upon them in turn becomes the justification for their warped worldview, thereby completing the vicious circle.

 

[illusion8]

While the primary failure is that of the state government, the central government cannot absolve itself in this matter as well. They have been caught napping as this could not have happened overnight.

Wahhabi/Salafi radicalization is the worst form of self-fulfilling prophecy. It turns the youth into indoctrinated, hateful, and unproductive trouble-makers. The misery that such an approach heaps upon them in turn becomes the justification for their warped worldview, thereby completing the vicious circle.

It all happens under the garb of freedom of speech and freedom to practice. Saudi export their extremism via preachers trained there who open up madrassas and mosques and lure muslim youth.

The poison was spreading at a very fast clip - supported by the psuedo liberals and the sikular brigade, but Indian Intelligence agencies have begun operations against it. But...

The kashmir valley is a different case - its majority muslim, so its difficult to differentiate between a jihadi, a radical and a innocent Muslim.

 

[Tshering22]

Salafi preacher in one of the scores of salafi mosques in Kashmir "Dekha Salafiyon ka kamal, jab salafi maidan men utarte hain to wapis naam lene ka kabhi sochte hi nahi. Ham Islami hukumat qaim kar ke rahenge. Iraq men dekho Abu Bakr naam ke salafi ki hukumat…..kashmir men anqareeb inshaAllah Islami jhanda gaad diya jaega….”

As if we will let it happen..

Let's see how to deal with these scum now that they are out in the open and getting desperate. I think we need to shed our tolerance a little bit more and let the armed forces operate with impunity whereby they are able to 'get the job done' with full autonomy.

 

[illusion8]

As if we will let it happen..

Let's see how to deal with these scum now that they are out in the open and getting desperate. I think we need to shed our tolerance a little bit more and let the armed forces operate with impunity whereby they are able to 'get the job done' with full autonomy.

The intelligence agencies and special squads should be given special permissions to wipe out the menace, the sick and peudo liberals are the one's who will shed their crocodile tears.

 

[Tshering22]

The kashmir valley is a different case - its majority muslim, so its difficult to differentiate between a jihadi, a radical and a innocent Muslim.

Not really that difficult; one just needs to ask the right psychometric questions to spot a radical lunatic from the common people. That's what intelligence agencies do; but the government for decades has tied their hands behind their backs.

This mess isn't so difficult as it is put. It will need so rather un-democratic means and efficient use of resources and in a matter of months, the valley can be at peace.

If the governments want, that is.

peudo liberals are the one's who will shed their crocodile tears.

When I said, special tactics, I meant dealing with these wannabe liberals as well. Silencing them by drawing them away from intellectual platforms and on real grounds.

It isn't that difficult.

 

[illusion8]

Not really that difficult; one just needs to ask the right psychometric questions to spot a radical lunatic from the common people. That's what intelligence agencies do; but the government for decades has tied their hands behind their backs.

This mess isn't so difficult as it is put. It will need so rather un-democratic means and efficient use of resources and in a matter of months, the valley can be at peace.

If the governments want, that is.



When I said, special tactics, I meant dealing with these wannabe liberals as well. Silencing them by drawing them away from intellectual platforms and on real grounds.

It isn't that difficult.

It is a deep rooted mess and not easy to clear as you describe, especially the one's that back them in the name of liberalism and the pseudo garb of secularism. Any and every action will be given a sectarian and anti muslim color. These so called sickular forces will file thousands of PIL's and spew garbage on media. The media needs to be controlled first and foremost and need to know that what they do is anti India.

 

[Zhukov]

a group of 5 6 people doesnt represent an organisation. Or a movement.
Cheap tactics of Intelligence agencies playing cheap games

 

[Fledgingwings]

It is already knocking at our door. For years, there was this veil of fake nationalism which was maintained as a guise to take J&K with force.

Now these loonies are openly claiming that it was never about culture or sovereignty but for religion. Hence what happened in 1990s, happened.

So yes It has come to our door and we are going to deal with it.

The question is, are you ready for this? Because based on what most Pakistanis talk here, they have a passionate love for their country.

ISIS doesn't attack head on; it will brainwash your youth to start attacking from within.

Wake up before it is too late. Your dislike for us will end up consuming you.

I am awake and dont worry about our youth they arent stupid to be consumed by these lunatics as they hire afghans mostly because that NASAL is savage for centuries.as soon as the pak afghan border is sealed things shall get further better.

 

[Hamza913]

So long as they stay in IOK things will be fine.