meet the deadliest fighter jet in the ME

[ultron]

Su-35S Super Flanker, never leave home without it

http://sputniknews.com/military/20160201/1034035764/su-35s-syria-russia.html

@500 @C130

 

[Taimoor Khan]

What impact it will have over Turkish Air force ability to poss as deterrence to Russians who, by Turkish sources, violating their air space. S400 on ground and SU35 in air is a deadly combination by any stretch of imagination.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

What impact it will have over Turkish Air force ability to poss as deterrence to Russians who, by Turkish sources, violating their air space. S400 on ground and SU35 in air is a deadly combination by any stretch of imagination.

How effective is an airbase if it is (as Turkey claims) within artillery range.
GPS shells can land within a couple of meters of the intended target.
S-400 batteries can be destroyed in a moment.

In a hot war, the Russian base is basically cut off.

 

[Serpentine]

How effective is an airbase if it is (as Turkey claims) within artillery range.
GPS shells can land within a couple of meters of the intended target.
S-400 batteries can be destroyed in a moment.

In a hot war, the Russian base is basically cut off.

That's true, if we assume the war will remain in Syria, which it won't. It will be a direct war between Turkey and Russia, a war in which NATO (U.S and UK mainly) will do their best to stay out.

 

[500]

The deadliest Middle East fighter is Mirage IIICJ - 284 kills.

In terms of quality the best fighter in ME currently is F-15SA:

 

[C130]

Su-35S Super Flanker, never leave home without it

http://sputniknews.com/military/20160201/1034035764/su-35s-syria-russia.html

@500 @C130

it defiantly outclasses everything in the area, but I question it's A2G effectiveness.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

The deadliest Middle East fighter is Mirage IIICJ - 284 kills.

In terms of quality the best fighter in ME currently is F-15SA:

I would have guessed the deadliest fighter in the middle east would have been the Messerschmitt Bf109...

 

[ultron]

How effective is an airbase if it is (as Turkey claims) within artillery range.
GPS shells can land within a couple of meters of the intended target.
S-400 batteries can be destroyed in a moment.

In a hot war, the Russian base is basically cut off.

There are other air bases like in Hama.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Syrian_Air_Force_bases

 

[Serpentine]

it defiantly outclasses everything in the area, but I question it's A2G effectiveness.

It's intended for air supremacy, not for A2G missions as primary role. And indeed, Su-35 does outclass F-15 (in all variants). In BVR distances, we can say they are not much different, but in a dog fight and close range, if we assume both pilots are of the same skill sets, Su-35 will definitely be the winner.

 

[Ceylal]

The deadliest Middle East fighter is Mirage IIICJ - 284 kills.

In terms of quality the best fighter in ME currently is F-15SA:

Bullshit!
that means you destroyed everything that flew out egypt, syria, iraq combined..unless you counted the Israeli jets that were lost in 1973.

 

[Tshering22]

How effective is an airbase if it is (as Turkey claims) within artillery range.
GPS shells can land within a couple of meters of the intended target.
S-400 batteries can be destroyed in a moment.

In a hot war, the Russian base is basically cut off.

The Bosphorus is accessible to Russian Navy's missile-loaded battle cruisers and the border with Azerbaijan and Russia can have swarming Russian activity in no time.

You don't want Pyotr Veliky raining cruise missiles on your apart from Russian submarines and a whole host of destroyers launching attacks and separating European part from the Asian part.

It would be foolish for Erdogan to provoke any war with a pissed off Russia right now. NATO won't back him if he takes the initiative to provoke a war.

 

[500]

Bullshit!
that means you destroyed everything that flew out egypt, syria, iraq combined..unless you counted the Israeli jets that were lost in 1973.

In Six Day war Arabs had 568 jets.
In Yom Kippur war the had 682 jets.

Thats 1250 total, not including war on attrition and other minor clashes.

I would have guessed the deadliest fighter in the middle east would have been the Messerschmitt Bf109...

Bf109 fought mainly in Libya and Tunisia which is not part of the ME.

It's intended for air supremacy, not for A2G missions as primary role. And indeed, Su-35 does outclass F-15 (in all variants). In BVR distances, we can say they are not much different, but in a dog fight and close range, if we assume both pilots are of the same skill sets, Su-35 will definitely be the winner.

Recent F-15 have well tested AESA radar. Su-35 untested PESA. F-15 wins hands downs. In dogfight F-15 have AIM-9X with thermal image seeker and LOAL capability. Su-35 have old R-73. F-15 wins again.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

The Bosphorus is accessible to Russian Navy's missile-loaded battle cruisers and the border with Azerbaijan and Russia can have swarming Russian activity in no time.

You don't want Pyotr Veliky raining cruise missiles on your apart from Russian submarines and a whole host of destroyers launching attacks and separating European part from the Asian part.

It would be foolish for Erdogan to provoke any war with a pissed off Russia right now. NATO won't back him if he takes the initiative to provoke a war.

Navies are sitting ducks and will soon be at the bottom of the sea in case of a hot war.

NATO backed Turkey when they shot down the last intruder, and will back Turkey
as long as Turkeys "provocation" consists of defending NATO Airspace.

It would be foolish of Russia to enter a war with Turkey/NATO
as they would lose any chance to influence
Syria, once their base there is eliminated.

It is not in the interest of Russia, nor NATO to fight a war,
so I doubt this will happen.

 

[ultron]

Like I said, if Erdogan wants to lose his life like what happened to Napoleon and Hitler, he can give it a go

 

[nangyale]

Let's not kid ourselves. The Su-35 are not there to defend the Russian air base in Syria against the combined might of NATO/GCC.
They are there to showcase the latest Russian technologies and as a deterrent against small scale skirmishes.

If Russian really wanted to take on the Western airforces in the Middle East, then Iran will be the more logical and safer place to run such ops from. But that is not on the cards, atleast not in the near-terms.