Meet Jamat e Islami & Its history.

[FireFighter]

1. You call MQM murderers but forget how they have killed MQM activisits, Raza Haider and innocent urdu speaking shopkeepers. Rangers have already arrested hundreds of ANP terrorists who have been killing the people of Karachi.

2. Please give me facts of how MQM grabs votes by gun point? ANP boycotted the election because it knew it would lose, so it's better to keep face rather then lose it.

3. Massacares? I only see Mustafa Kamal and other members of MQM making roads, fixing sewage lines and electricity in Pakhtun dominated areas where violence and illiteracy is at its peak.

4. I am not a member of MQM but a supporter of them because they are the only party which care for Karachi and it's people.
Altaf Hussein has never betrayed MQM. He could have surrendered and let MQM to bits and peaces leaving Karachiites in misery but he didn't and in return his nephew and brother were killed by our corrupt establishment.
He is not a Pakistani because he did not bow down to corrupt leaders.

ANP members have homes in KP but MQM members only have a home in Karachi. While ANP will do anything to destroy Karachi and then run back to their original homes, MQM and the people of Karachi will be left to suffer.

YouTube - Karachi Situation & Shahi Sayed Speeches Mustafa Kamal in Point Blank with Mubashir Lucman

How do you explain the systematic bhata business organized and orchestrated by MQM?

How do you explain the systemaitc subjugation and mistreatment of the pashtuns?

Mubashar Lucman is a die hard MQM supporter...quite unfair to use his statement as evidence against the pashtun

 

[T-Faz]

Keep this MQM vs ANP nonsense out of here, both have their supporters and their pros and cons.

However both need to work together rather than working against each other and ultimately against the country.

 

[unicorn]

Mullah Omar has condemned TTP but the people amongst his ranks do not think the same way because if they did, the Mullah Badabar incident would not have occurred.

Omar knows that his survival is in supporting Pakistan, but his men have other plans and that is why Taliban has supported TTP against the PA.

I never said Omar and his men were never part of the Mujahideen, in fact Omar was in Peshawar 7. He was in a group called Inquilab-e-Islam Afghanistan.

Omar shot down many Soviet planes and lost his eye in the war.

The main elements of Mujahideen were Hekmatyar, Massoud, Rabbani etc and their men.

The Taliban were either not born or kids back then except for their leaders like Omar.

Many TTP members were in the Mujahideen too.

On what evidence you are able to estimate that the other senior members in Afghanistan oppose Mullah Omar opinion regarding Pakistan?

Mullah Omar doesn't need Pakistan.Because there are no support currently from the people in Pakistan to go there and do jihad just like they have in the soviet era for the entire nine years.Also there is no financial support from within Pakistan.

Besides Mullah Baradar capture should even further clarify that Mullah Omar despite the incident is supporting and are not playing any role in fighting against Pakistan Army which is the most positive thing in this war and this is the same thing why the Army have soft corner for them till now.

Furthermore your confusion regarding Taliban is of no value.It is very simple to understand if Taliban are really the terrorist,they will not have been able to fight this war for such a long period of time which suggest even to the blind person that they have the support from the people of Afghanistan from day one.And if there is local support then every argument about them is a waste of time because sooner or later they will win and everybody has to accept them.

 

[pak-marine]

Mubashar Lucman is a die hard MQM supporter...quite unfair to use his statement as evidence against the pashtun

How about Nadeem Paracha ?
How about Hasan Nisar?

ever had a chance to read them ?

 

[pak-marine]

1. There can be many administrative faults in ANP viz a viz governance BUT please keep MQM propaganda out of it because ANP is NOT murderer like MQM.

ANP no they are not murders they just provide safe heavens to Al Qaida and Talibans in karachi

2. Recently in by-elections when MQM once again was grabbing votes at gun point in Sindh, shahi syed announced boycotting of ANP from the elections and leaving the ground to PPP and MQM still MQM terrorism was on peak.

gun point lo its the height of ignorance jana check the election results MQM got 92000 votes , how do see logistically possible.

3. Northwestern Pakistanis have been observing restrain in Karachi despite MQM massacre of them

Only future would tell give it few years , its the 3rd hand who ANP provided safe heaven they are now having fun , all they got to do is kill one part member of either ... enjoy the show later on

4. You being member of MQM very conveniently avoided mentioning the traitor Altaf hussian and misdeeds of the party
their vote bank has only increased you think millions pakistanis have voted for a traitor ? or they all had a gun on their temple ?

Rather he is not even a traitor he is NOT a Pakistani in the first place

He is just like many other pakistanis who hold dual nationality , there are many people on this forum according to your defination they are not pakistanis!!?

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Jamaat's soft stance of Taliban terror

It is still not certain whether the target was the JI rally or a police contingent guarding it. Nevertheless, what is clear is the party’s flawed logic, for it failed to utter a single word of condemnation against the bomber, his handlers or even those orchestrating the violence. While the Jamaat leaders reiterated their stance that they considered the US a ‘terrorist state’, they also said that the bombing was the result of government failure, and called upon the provincial government to quit. That was all.

The JI and other rightwing parties, such as the Jamiat Ulema-i-Islam and the Tehrik-i-Insaf, have every right to oppose the military’s anti-terror operations. In fact, they may be doing so in good faith. But what is bad form and poor politics is their failure to unequivocally condemn the continuing targeting of innocent women, men and children

YouTube - Pakistan Jamaat e Islami supports to Taliban & Al-Qaeda attacks

JAMAAT-E-ISLAMI, HIZBUL MUJAHIDEEN & AL QAEDA

Father in Law of Jamaat Islami Pakistan, Khalid Shiekh Muhammad
note: this ugly, hairy fat b@stard was hiding in a Nahemram's house, no other but a female Jamaat Islami leader in Rawalpindi. this is the same party that condemns Pakistani working women & their direct interaction with unrelated males but here we got a known top terrorist (who happensto be a male) actually hiding in a house of a extreme right wing party that belongs to a female. it is shamefull and funny at the same time.

point to note is that this was not an isolated incident more terrorists were found hiding at Jammat Islami safe houses across the country

 

[Bas_tum_Pak]

YouTube - Pakistan Jamaat e Islami supports to Taliban & Al-Qaeda attacks

There are more then 90% people in Pakistan are against the NATO routes through Pakistan, But we are MUNAFIQS , We don't like things but we can't Speak against it.

What you want to show by posting this video in which a Leader of Pakistan Largest Official Terrorist Party is saying against terrorism - The Party who was & Who is Against the Creation of Pakistan.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

There are more then 90% people in Pakistan are against the NATO routes through Pakistan, But we are MUNAFIQS , We don't like things but we can't Speak against it.

What you want to show by posting this video in which a Leader of Pakistan Largest Official Terrorist Party is saying against terrorism - The Party who was & Who is Against the Creation of Pakistan.

I would say 99% are against NATO routes. so am I but I dont. encourage terrorists to blow up the trucks and cause loss of life and property in Pakistan. the same terrorists who so gleefully execute our teachers, soldiers, doctors, professors, scholors and religious personalities and make videos of them.

if you watched the video you can see that this guy is inciting voilence and supporting the attacks of the terrorists who have never cared to see who was in their line of fire. war against America is just an excuse
to justify their extrimist views.

I want to show people like you that how constantly these people continue to insult your intelligence by justifying the voilence and fitna and bring in the name of a peaceful relegion while remaining dead silence when the same elements massacre people of Pakistan in shops, mosques, offices and other public gatherings.

this is the organisation that from inception is voilent. its student wing is the most prolific voilent and notorious for campus murders, abductions and torture.

see what they did to Imran Khan who is operly against war on terror. whatever the JI leadership said afterwords means toss all.. their student wing comes under the direct command of former student terrorist and muder suspect Liaqat Baloch

what else you have managed to miss out is that Saudi Arabia which is exrtimist in its own right has even found the doctrine of Modoodi unislamic, viloent and against the tenents of Islam hence banning it in Saudi Arabia. that speaks volumes for an organisation that claims to speak for Muslims yet refuses to condemn the suicide bombers and has Al Qaeda terrorist as frequent house guests

 

[apophenia]

Its not to late for JI to understand that the terrorists have no love, no respect for Pakistan and stop feeding elements that cannot digest the idea of Pakistan as a moslim democracy capable of existing and prospering with a wider world.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Its not to late for JI to understand that the terrorists have no love, no respect for Pakistan and stop feeding elements that cannot digest the idea of Pakistan as a moslim democracy capable of existing and prospering with a wider world.

my dear
see what Dr Raheeq Ahmed Abbasi has to say about the Kharji TTP and Sipah Sahabah workings in the first part of the video and then at 2:20 and onward he refers to Jamaat Islami leadership (without naming them) and exposes their hypocrisy and their support of secterian terrorists turned anti Islam anti Pakistan Najadi Sipah Sahabah & TTP

the point by Dr Abbasi is so valid... why these fanatics are punishing the peaceful Pakistanis if they are angry with Americans?
why are they killing Sunni, Shia, Ahemdis & others in cities of Pakistan if they are upset with the American presence in Afghanistan and Iraq?

And why the obnoxious leadership of Anti-Pakistan Jamaat Islami doesnt condemn the suiciders & mass killers belonging to TTP & its banned sister organisations?

Mustafa Kamal exposes Jamaat Islami's support of Al Qaeda

(if anyone is confused then scroll to 1:45 onwards and see)

 

[unicorn]

^^
The same arguments can be applied against Sarmachars as well

No one ever talk about them so starting with you.........

 

[pak-marine]

my dear
see what Dr Raheeq Ahmed Abbasi has to say about the Kharji TTP and Sipah Sahabah workings in the first part of the video and then at 2:20 and onward he refers to Jamaat Islami leadership (without naming them) and exposes their hypocrisy and their support of secterian terrorists turned anti Islam anti Pakistan Najadi Sipah Sahabah & TTP

YouTube - Data Darbar Attack - Dr Raheeq Abbasi's Exclusive Talk in Geo's 50Mint on Deadly Blasts

the point by Dr Abbasi is so valid... why these fanatics are punishing the peaceful Pakistanis if they are angry with Americans?
why are they killing Sunni, Shia, Ahemdis & others in cities of Pakistan if they are upset with the American presence in Afghanistan and Iraq?

And why the obnoxious leadership of Anti-Pakistan Jamaat Islami doesnt condemn the suiciders & mass killers belonging to TTP & its banned sister organisations?

Mustafa Kamal exposes Jamaat Islami's support of Al Qaeda

YouTube - Mustafa Kamal : Slams Jamat e Islami Face
(if anyone is confused then scroll to 1:45 onwards and see)

MK for president !! God Bless him , Major alqaeda guys caught from homes of jamati homes ... !!?

 

[Irfan Baloch]

MK for president !! God Bless him , Major alqaeda guys caught from homes of jamati homes ... !!?

think you meant IK instead of MK

.strange that its a new news for you that jamaat people have been caught time and again housing terrorists
look at its history, its foundation and its working and its babbling .. there shouldnt be any surprise

 

[T-Faz]

On what evidence you are able to estimate that the other senior members in Afghanistan oppose Mullah Omar opinion regarding Pakistan?

On the evidence that there has been consistent reports emanating from Afghanistan which shows that TTP has been helped by the Taliban through the means of resources and shelter. They even had an agreement whereby they share men for their collaborative effort on the ****** border.

Mullah Omar doesn't need Pakistan.Because there are no support currently from the people in Pakistan to go there and do jihad just like they have in the soviet era for the entire nine years.Also there is no financial support from within Pakistan.

Mullah Omar needs Pakistan for negotiations, for any arrangements and any future settlements, if they occur. Who is Omar going to go to, who is his partner, without the Arab money, these people are as good as dead.

Besides Mullah Baradar capture should even further clarify that Mullah Omar despite the incident is supporting and are not playing any role in fighting against Pakistan Army which is the most positive thing in this war and this is the same thing why the Army have soft corner for them till now.

Mullah Omar is not running the Taliban anymore, the command structure is based on local leaders and their men. The Taliban is not a centralized organization, it is a bunch of people in groups who exist in various parts of the country. The Badabur incident proves that the Taliban was conspiring against Pakistan and all are not of the same mindset throughout.

They have always been a menace but they are a bigger threat now and hence should be eliminated.

The only people who have a soft corner for them are people like Gul, Baig, Tarrar and company.

Furthermore your confusion regarding Taliban is of no value.It is very simple to understand if Taliban are really the terrorist,they will not have been able to fight this war for such a long period of time which suggest even to the blind person that they have the support from the people of Afghanistan from day one.And if there is local support then every argument about them is a waste of time because sooner or later they will win and everybody has to accept them.

You are the one who is confused, the Taliban is the same group who have turned a nation into a hell hole. Their brutal rule and occupation of Afghanistan has turned it into a global problem and TTP wants to recreate the same in Pakistan.

The Taliban are not fighting but rather running around and bombing innocent civilians. They are terrorists, plain and simple, if terrorizing your own nation is winning then the Taliban are great warriors. Ask Afghans like Ahmed and they will tell you how much they detest the Taliban. The Taliban ruined their nation and you support them.

Taliban won't win, they won't win because US is not USSR and the end result would be total destruction of Pakistan if the Taliban remains in power.

Hopefully, even if they are in power, the operation to eradicate them should materialize.

 

[pak-marine]

think you meant IK instead of MK

.strange that its a new news for you that jamaat people have been caught time and again housing terrorists
look at its history, its foundation and its working and its babbling .. there shouldnt be any surprise

No sir meant MK ..... IK isn't bad either any one of these guys hopefully some time very soon! yes was surprised at the big arrests now sure JI's are criminals