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I don't understand why Greece and Turkey cannot achieve peace? Both countries are NATO members and both countries have a lot to gain through peace. Greece has been through hell with it's economy in tatters. To make matters worse, it's European partners (Germany, France, Belgium and Netherlands) have exploited Greece's economic collapse. Is this what the "Union" is all about for Europe? Greece instead should work with Turkey and achieve peace. Better relations between the two countries would give both countries tremendous economic advantage.

Both Turkey and Greece can work together, once they have a peace agreement, both countries should work to extricate themselves out of the IMF/WB "Debt Death Trap." Work together, create debt-free robust economies that are independent of Germany, France, Netherlands, Belgium, Britain and America. The latter countries have connivingly profited from Greek-Turkic rivalry. While both Greece and Turkey have suffered economically and with war dangling above their heads like swords.

Look at how france is milking this situation. After french spat with Turkish Navy in the Southern Mediterranean, near Libya. It is the french exploiting Greece-Turkey rivalry. Greek aren't stupid like indians, neither are Turks as gullible as indians. Both countries can stamp out Western hegemony, by coming to agreements of peace with mutually assured.
 
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I don't understand why Greece and Turkey cannot achieve peace? Both countries are NATO members and both countries have a lot to gain through peace. Greece has been through hell with it's economy in tatters. To make matters worse, it's European partners (Germany, France, Belgium and Netherlands) have exploited Greece's economic collapse. Is this what the "Union" is all about for Europe? Greece instead should work with Turkey and achieve peace. Better relations between the two countries would give both countries tremendous economic advantage.

Both Turkey and Greece can work together, once they have a peace agreement, both countries should work to extricate themselves out of the IMF/WB "Debt Death Trap." Work together, create debt-free robust economies that are independent of Germany, France, Netherlands, Belgium, Britain and America. The latter countries have connivingly profited from Greek-Turkic rivalry. While both Greece and Turkey have suffered economically and with war dangling above their heads like swords.

Look at how france is milking this situation. After french spat with Turkish Navy in the Southern Mediterranean, near Libya. It is the french exploiting Greece-Turkey rivalry. Greek aren't stupid like indians, neither are Turks as gullible as indians. Both countries can stamp out Western hegemony, by coming to agreements of peace with mutually assured.

It is a religious conflict. Ethnically the Greeks/Turks are pretty much the same. For most of history they have been under the rule of the same people ie Byzantines. The turkish migration has had more affect on turkeys language than ethnicity. The main conflict is religious and political.

The greeks were ruled by the turkish ottomans for hundreds of years. The turks were the first to take Constantinople. This is something the greek brain can never forget. Very similar to how Mulsims ruled India for thousands of years the greeks are very similar to indians as they can never forget who their real fathers were.
 
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Well if it is an anti JF17 news by some Indian source or an Anti Teja news by some Pakistani source. I don't read it. Same formula applies here. Greek source slandering the Turkish Airforce. What do you expect them to say, Turkey will crush them !!!
 
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Whenever I see a EU link source I do a google search with EU disinfo attached.
pentapostagma does pop up as a hysteria news site in several publications, need I say more.

Turks have their own AAM missile program.
 
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We have our own program and at least we will see our native missile, AIM-120C-5 variant, soon. In addition, Meteor is a British missile, I couldn't understand why the citizens of the desperate country are sharing absurd articles, will we not get Meteor?
 
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I don't understand why Greece and Turkey cannot achieve peace? Both countries are NATO members and both countries have a lot to gain through peace. Greece has been through hell with it's economy in tatters. To make matters worse, it's European partners (Germany, France, Belgium and Netherlands) have exploited Greece's economic collapse. Is this what the "Union" is all about for Europe? Greece instead should work with Turkey and achieve peace. Better relations between the two countries would give both countries tremendous economic advantage.

Both Turkey and Greece can work together, once they have a peace agreement, both countries should work to extricate themselves out of the IMF/WB "Debt Death Trap." Work together, create debt-free robust economies that are independent of Germany, France, Netherlands, Belgium, Britain and America. The latter countries have connivingly profited from Greek-Turkic rivalry. While both Greece and Turkey have suffered economically and with war dangling above their heads like swords.

Look at how france is milking this situation. After french spat with Turkish Navy in the Southern Mediterranean, near Libya. It is the french exploiting Greece-Turkey rivalry. Greek aren't stupid like indians, neither are Turks as gullible as indians. Both countries can stamp out Western hegemony, by coming to agreements of peace with mutually assured.
They both have a jurisdiction dispute around Aegean Islands. Pretty simple to see the proximity of those islands.
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Current national airspace claimed by Greece

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Current territorial waters recognized by Greece and Turkey, and airspace as recognized by Turkey
 
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Indian self confidence needs constant reassurances. I dont know when will they have enough self confidence to try our JFTs once more.
 
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Whenever I see a EU link source I do a google search with EU disinfo attached.
pentapostagma does pop up as a hysteria news site in several publications, need I say more.
Pentapostagma is a website affiliated with the Church,it's not a dedicated site about military and defence stuff.
t is a religious conflict. Ethnically the Greeks/Turks are pretty much the same. For most of history they have been under the rule of the same people ie Byzantines. The turkish migration has had more affect on turkeys language than ethnicity. The main conflict is religious and political.
Ethnically Greeks Turks are very different. And for most history few Turks had been under Byzantine rule. The Turkish migration brought the Seljuks to Anatolia where they started conquering lands from the Byzantine Empire,the Armenians,the Arabs and later the Ottoman Turks became the dominant Turkish "tribe" let's say.

The turks were the first to take Constantinople.
Actually the first to take Constantinople were the Crusaders of the Fourth Crusade.
 
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It is a religious conflict. Ethnically the Greeks/Turks are pretty much the same. For most of history they have been under the rule of the same people ie Byzantines. The turkish migration has had more affect on turkeys language than ethnicity. The main conflict is religious and political.

The greeks were ruled by the turkish ottomans for hundreds of years. The turks were the first to take Constantinople. This is something the greek brain can never forget. Very similar to how Mulsims ruled India for thousands of years the greeks are very similar to indians as they can never forget who their real fathers were.
The Crusaders were the first to take Constantinople.
 
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Yep and destroyed it, evil lot. It was one of the greatest cities of the world. They even desecrated churches and raped nuns.
It never recovered.
Kings and Generals has a great video about what they stole or destroyed. It's worth watching,the wealth and art that was taken or melted away,it's unbelievable!
 
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