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Maxxpro MRAPs of Pakistan Army.

A key feature of the MRAP is the V-shaped hull that diverts the blast energy, which is missing in the Hummer.
SANDF perfected marp technology which then the US got by bringing our engineers from Armscor to help them design their MARP vehicles; most of SA pedigree designs are visible in these vehicle. Double V shaped hull is the key but you also forget another biggest item - seats; the seats are specially designed. I spent 2 years in buffels and Ratel. Seat design and seat harness is vital to prevent back injuries. Angola campaign was true testing grounds for all our designs. Rhodesians were the pioneers - i have seen older VW Beetles with V-shape hulls - these were designed by farmers in the 70s.
Sri-Lanka got our older vehicles which they continue to use and clone.
 
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SANDF perfected marp technology which then the US got by bringing our engineers from Armscor to help them design their MARP vehicles; most of SA pedigree designs are visible in these vehicle. Double V shaped hull is the key but you also forget another biggest item - seats; the seats are specially designed. I spent 2 years in buffels and Ratel. Seat design and seat harness is vital to prevent back injuries. Angola campaign was true testing grounds for all our designs. Rhodesians were the pioneers - i have seen older VW Beetles with V-shape hulls - these were designed by farmers in the 70s.
Sri-Lanka got our older vehicles which they continue to use and clone.

I merely said that the shape of the hull is a key feature, not anything about who designed it. Thank you for the information about the seats.
 
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Even they won't be able to use them :P
Yes, I don't think the Taliban have any magic wands that enable them to get spare parts that ANA can't get, or for less money. And I suspect the Taliban actually operate on a smaller budget. And... this kind of equipment is likely easier to spot from the air, making it more of a liability than a help to a guerilla force.
 
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Yes, I don't think the Taliban have any magic wands that enable them to get spare parts that ANA can't get, or for less money. And I suspect the Taliban actually operate on a smaller budget. And... this kind of equipment is likely easier to spot from the air, making it more of a liability than a help to a guerilla force.

The Taliban are not an Army. They are a guerilla movement, political movement, an ethnic movement and a religious school of thought (School of Deoband) all packed into one group. They are much more meticulous and robust in planning and conduct, they are not wasteful of their resources and only fight with tangible strategic objectives in mind.

They don't need MRAPs because it wont help them unlike ISIS. Taliban's biggest weapon of choice is its ability to liquidate itself in the society and strike when it needs to. The ISIS on the other hand believes in sheer terror and brutality which is precisely why they will cease to exist.
 
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Yes, I don't think the Taliban have any magic wands that enable them to get spare parts that ANA can't get, or for less money. And I suspect the Taliban actually operate on a smaller budget. And... this kind of equipment is likely easier to spot from the air, making it more of a liability than a help to a guerilla force.

although we have seen em and captured US armoured Humvees... used by them...

SANDF perfected marp technology which then the US got by bringing our engineers from Armscor to help them design their MARP vehicles; most of SA pedigree designs are visible in these vehicle. Double V shaped hull is the key but you also forget another biggest item - seats; the seats are specially designed. I spent 2 years in buffels and Ratel. Seat design and seat harness is vital to prevent back injuries. Angola campaign was true testing grounds for all our designs. Rhodesians were the pioneers - i have seen older VW Beetles with V-shape hulls - these were designed by farmers in the 70s.
Sri-Lanka got our older vehicles which they continue to use and clone.

I think over 2 dozen Caspers are also in service with Pak Army...
 
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although we have seen em and captured US armoured Humvees... used by them...



I think over 2 dozen Caspers are also in service with Pak Army...

more like stolen from NATO transport trucks
 
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None sense these were given as Gifts due to the few accidents and damage occurred to Pakistani roads and property during transport of vehicles
 
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MARP is nothing complicated; just basic laws of physics; deflect blast away.
UN and most deployments you will see Mambas, Caspirs still across all trouble spots- these are still very good and very easy to maintain - basic unimog chassis. US bought several thousands MARP vehicles of different configuration after humvees started going up in the air left right and center. Canada followed suit with several hundreds which were deployed across Afghanistan. I was in a flight sitting with one of the US chief engineer from Raytheon who kept boasting they will overcome the issues of IEDs in humvees - my 2cents were they were not looking at the elementary laws of newtonian physics. It took them a few years to acknowledge this and flood gates opened for us to supply US marines Nyalas and other MARP vehicles. These were out in late 80s and a new generation of MARP were in design and testing at Armscor. Caspir and ratel designs are from the 70s.
just a few notes in history.
i will try to see if i have a few photos in my shelved albums of old VWs that Rhodesian farmers first employed the V design using sheet metal. They are the originators of this idea.
 
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MARP is nothing complicated; just basic laws of physics; deflect blast away.
UN and most deployments you will see Mambas, Caspirs still across all trouble spots- these are still very good and very easy to maintain - basic unimog chassis. US bought several thousands MARP vehicles of different configuration after humvees started going up in the air left right and center. Canada followed suit with several hundreds which were deployed across Afghanistan. I was in a flight sitting with one of the US chief engineer from Raytheon who kept boasting they will overcome the issues of IEDs in humvees - my 2cents were they were not looking at the elementary laws of newtonian physics. It took them a few years to acknowledge this and flood gates opened for us to supply US marines Nyalas and other MARP vehicles. These were out in late 80s and a new generation of MARP were in design and testing at Armscor. Caspir and ratel designs are from the 70s.
just a few notes in history.
i will try to see if i have a few photos in my shelved albums of old VWs that Rhodesian farmers first employed the V design using sheet metal. They are the originators of this idea.

Sir what do you think of the fugly mrap (which i guess is yet to enter service or is in limited numbers):


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Well if I was being fired on my Enemies I rather we in the fugly mobile then complain about beauty but in general we need to raise the standard of APC

However the point is a country of Pakistan's capacity should produce better Units

Serbia's APC is ideal platform for TOT and share

We might need a upgraded version badly , and Steeles mills/Military units need to produce some good replicas
 
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