Mastung blast: Security Forces make big breakthrough - 2 facilitators arrested.

[R Wing]

Nothing will happen as the time for response is already gone.

Having seen the Pakistan of Zia and his establishment, and how good they were in maintaining deterence on all levels including sub conventional warfare, we have been in constant downward spiral despite achieving many technological advancements in tools of war. It's not the capability to respond but impotency, lack of interest, and above all, the mental salary to white skin and liabilities among western world including personal financial and family links. All traits you will find among this very special breed we call Pakistani liberals. God forbid had we lost the similar amount of soldiers in incident clearly linked to forigen powers, would these aholes would have waited to "find the right time" to respond?

I agree with everything you're saying except that it's a function of liberal vs conservative "Muslims." I have seen what you're describing across the board.

There is an utter lack of daring and audacity. The fear of diplomatic isolation and sanctions is so huge (and perhaps justified) that we have totally failed to raise the cost for our enemies. And, as you rightly pointed out, when there is no fear of consequences in your enemies' hearts, there is bound to be trouble for you!

The bombing of the Indian Embassy in Kabul, which killed their defense attache, happened under Mush BTW (attributed to the ISI by most.) I hate Mush though --- this was just to show you that it's not just about liberals vs. conservatives. I have seen some exceptionally corrupt conservatives and vice versa. Zia's own DG ISI amassed an unfathomable fortune; his sons (Akhtar brothers) own heaps of property in the States and I went to school with their kids so I know their lifestyle well. My father grew up with two of the Akhtar bros (went to the same High School) where they barely had enough money to even buy a broken down car (which they all had to push around.) Up to the Zia time, and maybe for some time later, we had many instances of Pakistanis standing up for the country in impressive and bold ways. Even ZAB, whom I also dislike, engaged in some impressive bad-assery at the UN. Our ambassador to the UN during the Indian-Israeli threat to our nuclear reactors gave such a chilling message to Israel in an interview. PIA itself was an amazing and progressive airline. The quality of people in the civil and armed services was top notch. Everything has changed and it's not because we've become more liberal. You're referring to the pseudo-liberal crowd that makes a lot of noise but is otherwise useless and insignificant. I can only speak from personal experience --- some of the most bad-*** army people I've met have been whisky-drinking "liberals" who are willing to parachute into enemy territory with a knife between their teeth the same night. Of course many conservative Muslims are just as bad ***. I see it as a function more of an overall degradation in society.

We can agree to disagree; my opinion is that it's an overall lack in imagination, daring and audacity and is not a function just of liberal vs conservative.

But the result is the same regardless of how we got here: we are a punching bag with very few punches thrown in return. This must change.

Peace.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

I agree with everything you're saying except that it's a function of liberal vs conservative "Muslims." I have seen what you're describing across the board.

There is an utter lack of daring and audacity. The fear of diplomatic isolation and sanctions is so huge (and perhaps justified) that we have totally failed to raise the cost for our enemies. And, as you rightly pointed out, when there is no fear of consequences in your enemies' hearts, there is bound to be trouble for you!

The bombing of the Indian Embassy in Kabul, which killed their defense attache, happened under Mush BTW (attributed to the ISI by most.) I hate Mush though --- this was just to show you that it's not just about liberals vs. conservatives. I have seen some exceptionally corrupt conservatives and vice versa. Zia's own DG ISI amassed an unfathomable fortune; his sons (Akhtar brothers) own heaps of property in the States and I went to school with their kids so I know their lifestyle well. My father grew up with two of the Akhtar bros (went to the same High School) where they barely had enough money to even buy a broken down car (which they all had to push around.) Up to the Zia time, and maybe for some time later, we had many instances of Pakistanis standing up for the country in impressive and bold ways. Even ZAB, whom I also dislike, engaged in some impressive bad-assery at the UN. Our ambassador to the UN during the Indian-Israeli threat to our nuclear reactors gave such a chilling message to Israel in an interview. PIA itself was an amazing and progressive airline. The quality of people in the civil and armed services was top notch. Everything has changed and it's not because we've become more liberal. You're referring to the pseudo-liberal crowd that makes a lot of noise but is otherwise useless and insignificant. I can only speak from personal experience --- some of the most bad-*** army people I've met have been whisky-drinking "liberals" who are willing to parachute into enemy territory with a knife between their teeth the same night. Of course many conservative Muslims are just as bad ***. I see it as a function more of an overall degradation in society.

We can agree to disagree; my opinion is that it's an overall lack in imagination, daring and audacity and is not a function just of liberal vs conservative.

But the result is the same regardless of how we got here: we are a punching bag with very few punches thrown in return. This must change.

Peace.

I am not disputing there was no corruption during Zia time or his men were angels, but Pakistan of Zia was a different beast, daring with no non sense approach. You hit us, we will hit back almost immediately. I have lived in Pakistan of Zia , and I can tell the difference of approach between the deep state of then and now. We did some really horrible things to then super power the Soviets, one can imagine what we did to lesser Indians. Its a rule of jungle out there. Survival of fittest. No fear of sanction or isolation is bigger then citizens of states losing faith in their state institutions to protect them. No nuke power will tolerate 200 odd of its citizens being butchered by other deep states and sit on its arse and do nothing.

I respect your views about liberals and right wingers. But what I am saying is based on my observations. Majority of the liberals who are in position of power, by default they live in the awe of west, America in particular. Academically linked to western intuitions, family settled in west, kids settle there, and ofcourse the wealth and assets in west. Am I expecting these lot to make quick and tough decisions when situation like what happened during last week raise its ugly head? Absolutely no. Look at Musharraf, loot at Kiyani and I am sure there are many more above Brigadier level who come into this category. How these individuals with liabilities outside Pakistan were allowed to reach sensitive posts is just beyond me. This is the baggage which Zia didnt have in his personal capacity hence he was so good in securing Pakistan security and extending its strategic depth into the enemy nations. Our Indian problem is not because of India itself, but American patronage of India and that is where the mental block comes into our power corridors infested with people of liberal mindset. That is why there is a obvious hesitation to take actions against India because the liberals do not want to upset the mai bap America.

Geopolitics have gone completely towards right. Strong, hardline , no compromising leaders are emerging everywhere who just talk about their nation and people. We are still mental slave to America through our liberals in power corridors. The axis of evil, our enemies, the trio of America-Isreal-India, got the bigots and right wingers in power. What are we waiting for? We need to catch up rather fast. Deep state can start by itself and leaving people behind with access luggage which I mentioned above.

 

[R Wing]

I am not disputing there was no corruption during Zia time or his men were angels, but Pakistan of Zia was a different beast, daring with no non sense approach. You hit us, we will hit back almost immediately. I have lived in Pakistan of Zia , and I can tell the difference of approach between the deep state of then and now. We did some really horrible things to then super power the Soviets, one can imagine what we did to lesser Indians. Its a rule of jungle out there. Survival of fittest. No fear of sanction or isolation is bigger then citizens of states losing faith in their state institutions to protect them. No nuke power will tolerate 200 odd of its citizens being butchered by other deep states and sit on its arse and do nothing.

I respect your views about liberals and right wingers. But what I am saying is based on my observations. Majority of the liberals who are in position of power, by default they live in the awe of west, America in particular. Academically linked to western intuitions, family settled in west, kids settle there, and ofcourse the wealth and assets in west. Am I expecting these lot to make quick and tough decisions when situation like what happened during last week raise its ugly head? Absolutely no. Look at Musharraf, loot at Kiyani and I am sure there are many more above Brigadier level who come into this category. How these individuals with liabilities outside Pakistan were allowed to reach sensitive posts is just beyond me. This is the baggage which Zia didnt have in his personal capacity hence he was so good in securing Pakistan security and extending its strategic depth into the enemy nations. Our Indian problem is not because of India itself, but American patronage of India and that is where the mental block comes into our power corridors infested with people of liberal mindset. That is why there is a obvious hesitation to take actions against India because the liberals do not want to upset the mai bap America.

Geopolitics have gone completely towards right. Strong, hardline , no compromising leaders are emerging everywhere who just talk about their nation and people. We are still mental slave to America through our liberals in power corridors. The axis of evil, our enemies, the trio of America-Isreal-India, got the bigots and right wingers in power. What are we waiting for? We need to catch up rather fast. Deep state can start by itself and leaving people behind with access luggage which I mentioned above.

Again, I totally agree with what you're saying EXCEPT that these qualities are liberal vs. conservative. I think across the board the situation is the same (i.e. pretty bad.) Our right wing Mullahs are just about as bad as anybody else, if not the worst.

There are many people who are religiously non-conservative yet are NOT in awe of the West at all. We thankfully have a few of these in good positions currently.

We DEFINITELY need "hawks" in some positions as we are dealing with hawks in the defense / national security world of India, Israel, the US, etc. Agreed.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Again, I totally agree with what you're saying EXCEPT that these qualities are liberal vs. conservative. I think across the board the situation is the same (i.e. pretty bad.) Our right wing Mullahs are just about as bad as anybody else, if not the worst.

There are many people who are religiously non-conservative yet are NOT in awe of the West at all. We thankfully have a few of these in good positions currently.

We DEFINITELY need "hawks" in some positions as we are dealing with hawks in the defense / national security world of India, Israel, the US, etc. Agreed.

Screw Mullahs, I would rather say Islamist. Jis kay path kay under darhi hoti hai.

Not just the axis of evil but world by in large is tilting towards right wingers. Mainland Europe is gripping with Islam phobia with right wingers making inroads to the power corridors gradually.

 

[randaam janmam]

I am not disputing there was no corruption during Zia time or his men were angels, but Pakistan of Zia was a different beast, daring with no non sense approach. You hit us, we will hit back almost immediately. I have lived in Pakistan of Zia , and I can tell the difference of approach between the deep state of then and now. We did some really horrible things to then super power the Soviets, one can imagine what we did to lesser Indians.

It was during Zia's reign that we captured Siachen glacier from you, in Öperation Meghdoot". The lion mard-e-momin did nothing - nada, zilch. We still hold it.

Don't be misled by images and personality cults - your lions were cats too, even if they may have pretended to be (or were) more islamic than others.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

It was during Zia's reign that we captured Siachen glacier from you, in Öperation Meghdoot". The lion mard-e-momin did nothing - nada, zilch. We still hold it.

Don't be misled by images and personality cults - your lions were cats too, even if they may have pretended to be (or were) more islamic than others.

Siachin was a no mans lands in which India put its neck and ever since Pakistan really don't care as we know what is hurting India.

Mard-e-momen did however castrated India with "bleed with thousand cuts" strategy at a time when on the other flank the red army was starring down at us. He kept India bogged down and under control. Today's Pakistani strategist need to adopt the same strategy if complete peace in Pakistan is to be restored.

 

[randaam janmam]

Siachin was a no mans lands in which India put its neck and ever since Pakistan really don't care as we know what is hurting India.

Mard-e-momen did however castrated India with "bleed with thousand cuts" strategy at a time when on the other flank the red army was starring down at us. He kept India bogged down and under control. Today's Pakistani strategist need to adopt the same strategy if complete peace in Pakistan is to be restored.

Oh really? Pakistan didn't care about it? Is that why it fought a war to keep it, and lost? And made several attempts later, and lost them all? When it became clear that you can't get it back, now pretend that you didn't really care. Typical "sour grapes"theory from losers.

And what exactly did mard-e-momin achieve with "bleed India with a thousand cuts"? India has only grown from strength to strength since then, whereas Pakistan has been continuously bleeding because of that very mard-e-momin's policies, and the islamist militants he nurtured. Your own countrymen have stated so in this very thread.

You said that you don't want to imagine what he did to India. Please do try imagining. We captured your territory. Could he defend it? No. Could he retake it? No. Did he capture any Indian territory in return? No. The tools he created to bleed India, continue to bleed your own country. Suicide blasts, jihadis, militancy, islamist extremism...

Deal with it - we captured Pakistani territory during Zia's time, whereas the only territory he and your army has ever captured is your own capital, Islamabad. Repeatedly:

^^Brave armymen capturing their own capital!

So from an Indian PoV, Zia has been great for us. May you produce more and more Zia's. The only place that Zia and his ilk can capture, is Islamabad - not an inch of India. Capture his own capital and let India capture commanding heights in your country. Shabash.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Oh really? Pakistan didn't care about it? Is that why it fought a war to keep it, and lost? And made several attempts later, and lost them all? When it became clear that you can't get it back, now pretend that you didn't really care. Typical "sour grapes"theory from losers.

And what exactly did mard-e-momin achieve with "bleed India with a thousand cuts"? India has only grown from strength to strength since then, whereas Pakistan has been continuously bleeding because of that very mard-e-momin's policies, and the islamist militants he nurtured. Your own countrymen have stated so in this very thread.

You said that you don't want to imagine what he did to India. Please do try imagining. We captured your territory. Could he defend it? No. Could he retake it? No. Did he capture any Indian territory in return? No. The tools he created to bleed India, continue to bleed your own country. Suicide blasts, jihadis, militancy, islamist extremism...

Deal with it - we captured Pakistani territory during Zia's time, whereas the only territory he and your army has ever captured is your own capital, Islamabad. Repeatedly:

^^Brave armymen capturing their own capital!

So from an Indian PoV, Zia has been great for us. May you produce more and more Zia's. The only place that Zia and his ilk can capture, is Islamabad - not an inch of India. Capture his own capital and let India capture commanding heights in your country. Shabash.

Siachin was not defended as it was a no mans land. India trying to be smarty pants tried to reach the karakrom highway to cut off Pakistan-China link , end up with its neck stuck in siachin.


India was our bitch in Zia times. He started many proxy wars within Indian borders which helped us immensely to keep India bogged down in its own shit and not have enough time and energy to cause problems for Pakistan, specially at a time when Indian main sugardaddy of that time, the Soviet Union was breathing down our neck on western front. Its only after Zia India got breather when American sponsored democracy reversed all old policies of Zia time and allowed India to grow and cause problems for Pakistan now. We do need someone similar, a right winger to bring back those old policies so India can again be put in its place, for the sake of Pakistan.

He created Mujahideens. Those guys knocked out the super power of its time. Taliban were created by Benazir and they do not share any thing from those Mujahedeen, infact they were kids or not even born when first Afghan war was going on. The ones you are talking about, are the ones created by the axis of evil, cia/raw/mossad, the TTP likes or the ones we called ISIS in ME which is now imported in Afghansitan by CIA.


If you are talking about Pakistan army in general, well, I got news for you, that Azad Kashmir you see on map was wrestled in a classic war by Pakistan army from Indian Army. We still hold strategic heights in Kargil if we look at the most recent conflict.


Puttar, Indian establishment knows that if even half of what Zia was, a man comes into Pakistan at helm, you lot will be screwed as India of today is sitting on the keg with Hindu terrorists in power.

 

[randaam janmam]

If you are talking about Pakistan army in general, well, I got news for you, that Azad Kashmir you see on map was wrestled in a classic war by Pakistan army from Indian Army. We still hold strategic heights in Kargil if we look at the most recent conflict.

No. Wrong. Very wrong.

Äzad" Kashmir was wrested from the independent Kingdom of Kashmir. Pakistan sent tribal lashkars to capture Kashmir from a poor independent kingdom, which is when they legally acceeded to India, after which the Indian army stepped in and stopped you and your army in its tracks, and even sent them back from the best parts of Kashmir (including Srinagar).

I know this is what they teach you in Pakistan, but you have google and internet now - do read up a bit of real history. You captured "azad" Kashmir from a Kashmir that was already azad. Not from India.

It was your invasion and plunders that made the ruler of Kashmir legally acede to India. Not only did you not take an inch subsequently, but you also lost the best parts you had already stolen.

Bottom line - you took some parts of Kashmir from KASHMIR - not from India, as your schoolteachers taught you.

Every noob in Pakistan believes this myth, that they took some parts of Kashmir from India - as if they can take anything from India or anyone else.


As I said before - the only land your pathetic army can take, is Islamabad - which they have done so many times, so bravely. LOL.

Siachin was not defended as it was a no mans land. India trying to be smarty pants tried to reach the karakrom highway to cut off Pakistan-China link , end up with its neck stuck in siachin.

So wrong. Pakistan tried to take Siachen, but our superior intelligence alerted us to the attempt (read up on Operation Meghdoot). Your "Number one intellignce agency" was caught napping. Oh BTW, Zia was its DG, was he not? And yet, our silent military intelligence got tipped off when you tried to buy alpine apparel from London.

There was a WAR - the Siachen war - that you fought and lost. Deal with it, loser.

India was our bitch in Zia times.

Right - we stole your territory, and you did nothing. You didn't get an inch. We got thousands of square miles, all of which are tactically and strategically important. The mard-e-momin couldn't do a thing. If that's what you call being your bitch - well, they didn't teach you proper English at your local brainwashing school.

India was our bitch in Zia times. He started many proxy wars within Indian borders which

All of which were decisively defeated - unlike your own continuous wars. Zarb-e-this, Raah-e-that....

Our Punjab insurgency was dealth a death blow in less than 5 years. Nothing else that Zia started lasted - except of course, the ones in PAkistan, which continue to this day.

He created Mujahideens.

Yes, he created Mujahideens and other Islamic nuts, who have done more damage to Pakistan than anybody else.

How many square miles of Indian territory have your mujjus taken? Zero.

Have Your mujjus taken Indian Kashmir? No.

Will they? No.

How many Pakistanis have your islamic mujjus killed? Tens of thousands.

Long live Zia, Long live your muslim mujahids, may they breed and multiply in your Pakistan.

More Islam, more religious fundamentalism, more mujahids and jihadis for Pakisatan!

 

[LeGenD]

@Taimoor Khan

Did you forget Zia administration shaking hands with CIA to counter Soviet Union in Afghanistan? Pakistan was bold back then because its regional interests converged with the same of another superpower back then. US was helping Pakistan in arming so-called Mujahideen in Afghanistan, and also strengthening Pakistani defenses to safeguard its borders back then.

When Soviet forces withdrew from Afghanistan, same Mujahideen turned their guns towards each other. And same Afghanistan turned into a breeding ground of terrorists, who would turn their guns towards Pakistan after 9/11 and kill many here. So much strategic depth, I see.

Pakistan should stay away from the games of superpowers for its own good. Thankfully, COAS Qamar Bajwa have hinted as much. Pakistan of today is more pragmatic and sensitized to bloodshed.

I expect Pakistan of today to warn US and China to take their games elsewhere (CPEC is for economic prosperity only), and India to behave or face a befitting response. Now is the time for Pakistan to understand its strategic significance (a spear of global efforts against terrorism; CPEC), and act like an independent state.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

No. Wrong. Very wrong.

Äzad" Kashmir was wrested from the independent Kingdom of Kashmir. Pakistan sent tribal lashkars to capture Kashmir from a poor independent kingdom, which is when they legally acceeded to India, after which the Indian army stepped in and stopped you and your army in its tracks, and even sent them back from the best parts of Kashmir (including Srinagar).

I know this is what they teach you in Pakistan, but you have google and internet now - do read up a bit of real history. You captured "azad" Kashmir from a Kashmir that was already azad. Not from India.

It was your invasion and plunders that made the ruler of Kashmir legally acede to India. Not only did you not take an inch subsequently, but you also lost the best parts you had already stolen.

Bottom line - you took some parts of Kashmir from KASHMIR - not from India, as your schoolteachers taught you.

Every noob in Pakistan believes this myth, that they took some parts of Kashmir from India - as if they can take anything from India or anyone else.


As I said before - the only land your pathetic army can take, is Islamabad - which they have done so many times, so bravely. LOL.

Absolute bull cr@p.

I can assure that that Pakistan army and its citizens were not fighting Raja Hari singh personal body gaurds. Its was the Indian army which was getting impaled in the vallies of Kashmir till Nahru ran to UN with his wet lungi for ceasefire and internationalised the issue.

So wrong. Pakistan tried to take Siachen, but our superior intelligence alerted us to the attempt (read up on Operation Meghdoot). Your "Number one intellignce agency" was caught napping. Oh BTW, Zia was its DG, was he not? And yet, our silent military intelligence got tipped off when you tried to buy alpine apparel from London.

There was a WAR - the Siachen war - that you fought and lost. Deal with it, loser.

What a twisted history you are taught in India?

Siachin was a NO MANS LAND. Mean its status was such that both India and Pakistan refrained from sending their army and making it a conflict before India got an itch and though it could reach the Karakorum highway to block the only Pakistan-China land route. Ofcourse Pakistan had to respond in order to stop the Indian madness. Once we found out that India is now stuck at heights with no way forward, we left you there to suffer.

Right - we stole your territory, and you did nothing. You didn't get an inch. We got thousands of square miles, all of which are tactically and strategically important. The mard-e-momin couldn't do a thing. If that's what you call being your bitch - well, they didn't teach you proper English at your local brainwashing school.

You keep on repeating the same non sense. read above.

He started all major insurgencies in India. Be it Kashmir, Khalistan , organizing Muslims underworld of India to fk up the Hindu terrorist and their organizations. I know how India acted like sissy infront of Pakistan during Zia days. Cause I have lived in Zia's Pakistan. India was indeed our bitch.

All of which were decisively defeated - unlike your own continuous wars. Zarb-e-this, Raah-e-that....

Our Punjab insurgency was dealth a death blow in less than 5 years. Nothing else that Zia started lasted - except of course, the ones in PAkistan, which continue to this day.

LOL, you couldn't do a jack during his time. He bitched slapped you proper. Kashmir is buring to this day. Your red corridor is out of the bounds of your federation. Khalistan is only termporarliy halted due to the democratic governments of Pakistan betraying the Khalistan cause and can reignited anytime.

Yes, he created Mujahideens and other Islamic nuts, who have done more damage to Pakistan than anybody else.

How many square miles of Indian territory have your mujjus taken? Zero.

Have Your mujjus taken Indian Kashmir? No.

Will they? No.

How many Pakistanis have your islamic mujjus killed? Tens of thousands.

Long live Zia, Long live your muslim mujahids, may they breed and multiply in your Pakistan.

More Islam, more religious fundamentalism, more mujahids and jihadis for Pakisatan!

NONE of the people he worked with, decades ago, did any damage to Pakistan infact those people extended our influence and strategic depth around us in this region and beyond.

We have taken Azad Kashmir , we still hold strategic heights in Kargil.

Kashmir is on the edge with plenty of Indian forces boxed into that region.

We received cia/raw/mossad/nds sponsored terrorism in Pakistan only after Afghansitan fell in to the hands of yanks, after 9/11. Nothing to do brilliant work Zia did during his time.


And don't worry about Pakistan. I really hope Modi and his hindu terrorist gang will remain in power in next term. Modi is doing a fantastic job which even ISI couldn't have dreamed about.

@Taimoor Khan

Did you forget Zia administration shaking hands with CIA to counter Soviet Union in Afghanistan? Pakistan was bold back then because its regional interests converged with the same of another superpower back then. US was helping Pakistan in arming so-called Mujahideen in Afghanistan, and also strengthening Pakistani defenses to safeguard its borders back then.

When Soviet forces withdrew from Afghanistan, same Mujahideen turned their guns towards each other. And same Afghanistan turned into a breeding ground of terrorists, who would turn their guns towards Pakistan after 9/11 and kill many here. So much strategic depth, I see.

Pakistan should stay away from the games of superpowers for its own good. Thankfully, COAS Qamar Bajwa have hinted as much. Pakistan of today is more pragmatic and sensitized to bloodshed.

I expect Pakistan of today to warn US and China to take their games elsewhere (CPEC is for economic prosperity only), and India to behave or face a befitting response. Now is the time for Pakistan to understand its strategic significance (a spear of global efforts against terrorism; CPEC), and act like an independent state.

You see the problem is, people , even in Pakistan do not look into the history as to why first Afghan war was fought by Pakistan.

This notion that we fought with soviets on behest of American is such a lousy and stupid argument. There was no American and CIA , infact nobody in million miles of Afghan war during its first year. It was us, and only us who were organising the war against the soviets as it was our national interests. We took the initiative becuase our own national interest demanded it. Its only after its initial success the rest of the world took notice and yanks joined in, but only limited to material and monetary supply. They or anyone else, had nothing to do with the actual war on the ground.

Bottom line is, Pakistan was bold then because it had a bold leadership who understood the concept of strategic depth. Fighting nation war away from its borders. every nation worth its salt maintain its strategic depth. America strategic depth extend far away from its borders to places like in Afghansitan.

What happened in Afghansitan after soviet withdrawl was a sabotaged by yanks and unfortunately with then dispensation within Pakistan. Its not Zia fault that those critical policies of national security were not followed after him, infact they were shelved and we made a complete U-turn to please the yanks. A disaster. And even then those who were used against Pakistan, we all know who were/are sponsoring them , AFTER the fall of Afghanistan to yanks.

Ofcourse Pakistan needs to stay away from agendas of other nations BUT it must follow its own agenda without caring for anyone else, just like Zia did when he decided to extend Pakistan strategic depth in this region.