Massive Show of Support for Muslims in Silicon Valley after Trump's Ban

[EgyptianAmerican]

And it was delayed for 6 months. My god you are dumb:

"The Obama administration in 2011 delayed processing Iraqi refugees for six months "



i.e 6 months with ZERO new approvals....completely based on being from a country and a terrorist threat perceived to emanate from that country. That's a ban. If you want to claim it was partial (since it only governed new approvals), thats fine....its still a ban however and added precedent. Trump goes one step further in stopping pre-approved as well and having 7 countries on the list. Again temporarily and legally. Its effectively a delay as well given its temporary nature.

Not that a permanent ban would be illegal btw. Each country can decide for itself which country's people it wants to admit and not admit (have you ever looked at how many countries ban Israeli citizens from admittance?...or even those that just have evidence of having visited Israel?). It however cannot be done on the basis of religion like all the protestors are hollering about....just like the anti-Israel countries dont do it on basis of being Jewish.

Okay I understand that you are slow so I will give you the facts in bigger words so you understand.

"It should also be noted that Iraqi refugees were still admitted to the United States every month in 2011, though there was a significant drop after May of that year. Here’s a chart with data from the state department:"

It never once hit 0 therefore nullifying your bullshit claim. Obama didn't ban anyone. He only extended Background checks.

 

[Desert Fox]

Do you know the definition of delay?

verb

1. 1.
   make (someone or something) late or slow.
   "the train was delayed"
   synonyms: make late, slow up/down, bog down; More
   
   
   Refugees were still accepted, they just had to take more time to vet. So don't give me that complete horseshit. Stop grasping straws.

Man stop talking out of your @$$ and go back to Egypt if Trump is so evil you hypocritical turd.

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

Man stop talking out of your @$$ and go back to Egypt if Trump is so evil you hypocritical turd.

How have I acted hypocritical exactly?

 

[Desert Fox]

Show evidence where he supports India? You can't because he doesn't. We can clearly see the link you are trying to make.

He's a moron who talks out of his rear end. Don't expect anything from him.

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

He's a moron who talks out of his rear end. Don't expect anything from him.

I am the only one providing actual proof,facts, and evidence. What have you provided exactly but bullshit?

 

[Desert Fox]

How have I acted hypocritical exactly?

Go back to Egypt oh you patriotic Muslim. Oh wait, you're in America, a country founded by White slave owners.

Says allot [emoji38]

 

[Desert Fox]

Read the sentence again.

"The Obama administration in 2011 delayed processing Iraqi refugees for six months "

It wasn't delayed processing during the six months, six months was the duration of the delay. Delay here is being used as a verb, not an adjective.

That is effectively a ban of 6 months (for fresh applications) and definitely more stringency on previously approved cases admittance too for that same time period.... no matter how you cut it. If you are unable to understand basic english, not my fault.

Yes there is a flaw comparing both situations on one to one basis of being totally equivalent, there are differences.....but its a much bigger serious flaw to call the Trump ban as a "muslim ban".

There is no doubting the Obama 6 month "delayed processing" was a ban and set more recent precedent for the Trump admin to use, on top of the temporary ban on Iranians entering the country set during the Carter administration and the much more serious internment of Japanese American Citizens by FDR...and probably other actions I can't immediately recall right now.

All of these are legal actions by the US govt concerning its security. You can debate the morality of it, but not the legality or that they all stem from the same precedent branch.

Just like Obama saw a threat from the refugee plot, Trump sees a larger scale general threatening situation and wants time to apply new security measures in specific countries admittance procedures.

Interesting facts:

Obama killed more Muslims in drone strikes than George Bush

...But but but Trump is wacisht!!

Obama destroyed two Muslim countries

....But but but Trump is wacisht!!

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

Go back to Egypt oh you patriotic Muslim. Oh wait, you're in America, a country founded by White slave owners.

Says allot [emoji38]

So?? White slave owners. That believed in this

The New Colossus

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"


Who also believed in this.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.


All these things DONALD TRUMP DOES NOT BELIEVE IN.


It is not hypocritical of me to live in America. It is hypocritical for you to live in the Islamic republic of Pakistan.

Obama killed more Muslims in drone strikes than George Bush

...But but but Trump is wacisht!!

Obama destroyed two Muslim countries

....But but but Trump is wacisht!!!

When did I call Obama the most noble and peaceful people of all time? The ultimate defender of Muslims? Exactly NEVER.

Cut out the straw-man argument and acknowledge that Donald trump and all his supporters are idiots who understand nothing.

 

[Desert Fox]

I am the only one providing actual proof,facts, and evidence. What have you provided exactly but bullshit?

Lol, "facts".

 

[Nilgiri]

Okay I understand that you are slow so I will give you the facts in bigger words so you understand.

"It should also be noted that Iraqi refugees were still admitted to the United States every month in 2011, though there was a significant drop after May of that year. Here’s a chart with data from the state department:"

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It never once hit 0 therefore nullifying your bullshit claim. Obama didn't ban anyone. He only extended Background checks.

Like I said, the ban applied to NEW APPROVALS. IF you filed a refugee process during the 6 months (which you were unaware was ongoing in the first place)....you simply were immediately put into the DELAY (effective BAN) folder automatically....till the time period (of 6 months) elapsed.

Hence the big dip in admittance, everyone still coming in was approved EARLIER (before the ban took effect).

I said ZERO NEW APPROVALS FOR 6 MONTHS....NOT ZERO INFLOW. STUPID MUCH?

Now if you want to argue thats just a partial ban, that is up to you. Its still a BAN given the point stands that people (fresh applicants) were not processed for 6 months ON PURPOSE, no matter how valid their claim or pressing their situation was because of a threat to the US security perceived to be emanating from that country.

Now if you can't see how that sets precedent for what Trump has done now, I can't help you. There's no fixing stupid.

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

Lol, "facts".

Yes facts, something you have yet to show.

Like I said, the ban approved to NEW APPROVALS. IF you filed a refugee process during the 6 months (which you were unaware was ongoing in the first place). You simply were immediately put into the DELAY folder.

Hence the big dip in admittance, everyone still coming in was approved EARLIER (before the ban took effect).

I said ZERO NEW APPROVALS FOR 6 MONTHS....NOT ZERO INFLOW. STUPID MUCH?

Now if you want to argue thats just a partial ban, that is up to you. Its still a BAN given the point stands that people were not processed for 6 months ON PURPOSE, no matter how valid their claim or pressing their situation was because of a threat to the US security perceived to be emanating from that country.

Now if you can't see how that sets precedent for what Trump has done now, I can't help you. There's no fixing stupid.

Wrong people were approved during those 6 months. I HAVE ALREADY PROVED THAT. Stop acting like an idiot and acknowledge that you are wrong.

 

[Desert Fox]

You Hindus are just angry that we Muslims are taking over the West and implementing Shariah zones. Too bad no one likes your religion with your cow gods and animals.

And then people like you wonder why men like Trump have become popular and Islamophobia has increased to unprecedented levels within the West. And I feel bad for Europeans for being naive and allowing people like you into their countries.

 

[Nilgiri]

Wrong people were approved during those 6 months. I HAVE ALREADY PROVED THAT. Stop acting like an idiot and acknowledge that you are wrong.

Yah by making a (false) equivalence between the words approved and admitted. False equivalencies made in your head prove squat.

Not even the article you posted (thats doing the thinking for you) says that. They are correct in pointing out its not a 1 to 1 equivalency between the two bans (Obama's action is definitely a partial ban compared to Trump)....but they never once said new people were approved during the 6 months "delay". Thats the very definition of what the delay was about and why it even comes up in discussion you nitwit.

THEIR words, not mine:

Obama’s 2011 order put a pause on refugee processing

So explain to me how new applicants were approved if there was a 6 month pause on refugee processing?

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

Yah by making a (false) equivalence between the words approved and admitted.

Not even the article you posted (thats doing the thinking for you) says that. They are correct in pointing out its not a 1 to 1 equivalency between the two bans (Obama's action is definitely a partial ban compared to Trump)....but they never once said new people were approved during the 6 months "delay". Thats the very definition of what the delay was about and why it even comes up in discussion you nitwit.

THEIR words, not mine:

Obama’s 2011 order put a pause on refugee processing

So explain to me how new applicants were approved if there was a 6 month pause on refugee processing?

God you are dumb, I give up. You understand absolutely nothing.

READ THE PICTURE AGAIN>

 

[Nilgiri]

God you are dumb, I give up. You understand absolutely nothing.

READ THE PICTURE AGAIN>

Admissions, not approvals. (Notice how they are two different words?)

OK you are a pure libtard confirmed.

Done interacting with you, I revel in what Nov 8th must have done to you

Now carry on, while Trump continues to own you lot, front left and centre.