Massive Oil Discovery in Pakistan: Hype vs Reality

[Aasimkhan]

So did Exxon/mobil top brass brief the PM or not ? Whats the latest?

 

[niaz]

But Nigeria has a lot of oil. And Saudi Arabia. No invasions, no coups in either.

Honorable VCheng.

Sir, kindly permit me to remind you that oil has been the cause of serious trouble in Saudi Arabia as well as in Nigeria.

Saudi Arabia:

King Faisal of Saudi Arabia imposed an oil embargo during the 1973 Arab Israeli war was assassinated by his nephew Prince Faisal bin Musaid on March 25, 1975. Arab media offered 3 possible motives for King Faisal’ murder.

1. Prince was annoyed with the king because his allowance was too low and that the king had forbidden him to travel abroad because of his drug taking & alcoholism.

2. Prince was engaged to one of the daughters of King Saud who was ousted in a palace coup by Faisal in 1962 and this was at her behest.

3. Prince had been educated in the USA and had many American contracts. The CIA in collusion with Mosaad exploited his animosity towards the king to punish King Faisal for the Oil embargo of 1973.


Nigeria:

Oil was first discovered in the Niger Delta in Eastern Nigeria in 1956. Oil production expanded rapidly during the 1960s (Nigeria gained independence in October 1960) and by 1966 Nigeria was producing more than 400K bpd mostly from the deposits in Eastern Nigeria.

In the meantime, Nigeria had also suffered military coups. An ex-military Governor of Eastern Nigeria, Mr. Odumegwu Ojukwu declared the Eastern Oil rich region of Nigeria as the independent “Republic of Biafra”. It took the federal gov’t forces 3 years (May 1967 to January 1970). It is estimated that about 50,000 servicemen & up to 2-million civilians died as a result.

Humans by nature are greedy & selfish. Whenever a lot of riches /even perceived riches is found in one region, it is a recipe for trouble. Till the 19th-century European colonial powers exploited the resources of the weaker regions of the rest of the world. these days existing religious, ethnic and provincial differences are exploited and countries often break up because one region does not want to share their wealth with the rest of the population.

A most recent example is Sudan. South Sudan is Christian and the north is Muslim. A low key civil war had been going on from time to time since independence in 1956. Oil was first discovered in Sudan in the South in 1978. In 1983 Sudan People’s Liberation Army (SPLA) was established in 1983 and the civil war broke out again. Peace was established in 2005 granting autonomy to South Sudan for 6 years and the then hold a referendum in the South. February 2011 referendum showed 98% south Sudanese opting for independence.

Sudan has 5-billion barrels of oil reserves and produces about 490K barrels a day. It is estimated that nearly 2-million people lost their lives during the long civil war.

Kekra-1 well is about 290 Km offshore, and maybe nothing will happen. However, in case substantial deposits (5-billion barrel or more) are discovered onshore in Sind; strengthening of support for the Sindhu Desh movement cannot be ruled out. If it were to happen in Baluchistan, one can be sure BLA would gain a lot of support. Naturally, India would be more than happy to assist the separatists in every way possible.

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

Honorable VCheng.

Sir, kindly permit me to remind you that oil has been the cause of serious trouble in Saudi Arabia as well as in Nigeria.

Saudi Arabia:

King Faisal of Saudi Arabia imposed an oil embargo during the 1973 Arab Israeli war was assassinated by his nephew Prince Faisal bin Musaid on March 25, 1975. Arab media offered 3 possible motives for King Faisal’ murder.

1. Prince was annoyed with the king because his allowance was too low and that king had forbidden him to travel abroad because of his drug taking & alcoholism.

2. Prince was engaged to one of the daughters of King Saud who was ousted in a palace coup by Faisal in 1962 and this was at her behest.


3. Prince had been educated in the USA and had many American contracts. The CIA in collusion with Mosaad exploited his animosity towards the king to punish King Faisal for the Oil embargo of 1973.


Nigeria:

Oil was first discovered in the Niger Delta in Eastern Nigeria in 1956. Oil production expanded rapidly during the 1960s (Nigeria gained independence in October 1960) and by 1966 Nigeria was producing more than 400K bpd mostly from the deposits in Eastern Nigeria.

In the meantime, Nigeria had also suffered military coups. An ex- Military Governor of Eastern Nigeria, Mr. Odumegwu Ojukwu declared the Eastern Oil rich region of Nigeria as the independent “Republic of Biafra”. It took the federal gov’t forces 3 years (May 1967 to January 1970). It is estimated that about 50,000 servicemen & up to 2-million civilians died as a result.

Humans by nature are greedy & selfish. Whenever a lot of riches /even perceived riches is found in one region, it is a recipe for trouble. Till the 19th-century European colonial powers exploited the resources of the weaker regions of the rest of the world. Existing religious, ethnic and provincial differences are exploited and countries often break up because one region does not want to share their wealth with the rest of the population.

A most recent example is Sudan. South Sudan is Christian and the north is Muslim. A low key civil war had been going on from time to time since independence. Oil was first discovered in Sudan in the South in 1978. In 1983 Sudan People’s Liberation Army (SPLA) was established in 1983 and the civil war broke out again. Peace was established in 2005 granting autonomy to South Sudan for 6 years and the then hold a referendum in the South. February 2011 referendum showed 98% south Sudanese opting for independence.

Sudan has 5-billion barrels of oil reserves and produces about 490K barrels a day. It is estimated that nearly 2-million people lost their lives during the long civil war.

Kekra-1 well is about 290 Km offshore, and maybe nothing will happen. However, in case substantial deposits ( 5-billion barrel or more) are discovered onshore in Sind; strengthening of support for the Sindhu Desh movement cannot be ruled out.

We are not nigeria nor a country with a king.
Oil imports if decreased will solve most of our problems. We have huge lot of scientists and engineers. We will be unlike them, if oil and gas reserves are found.

 

[CHACHA"G"]

Honorable VCheng.

Sir, kindly permit me to remind you that oil has been the cause of serious trouble in Saudi Arabia as well as in Nigeria.

Saudi Arabia:

King Faisal of Saudi Arabia imposed an oil embargo during the 1973 Arab Israeli war was assassinated by his nephew Prince Faisal bin Musaid on March 25, 1975. Arab media offered 3 possible motives for King Faisal’ murder.

1. Prince was annoyed with the king because his allowance was too low and that king had forbidden him to travel abroad because of his drug taking & alcoholism.

2. Prince was engaged to one of the daughters of King Saud who was ousted in a palace coup by Faisal in 1962 and this was at her behest.


3. Prince had been educated in the USA and had many American contracts. The CIA in collusion with Mosaad exploited his animosity towards the king to punish King Faisal for the Oil embargo of 1973.


Nigeria:

Oil was first discovered in the Niger Delta in Eastern Nigeria in 1956. Oil production expanded rapidly during the 1960s (Nigeria gained independence in October 1960) and by 1966 Nigeria was producing more than 400K bpd mostly from the deposits in Eastern Nigeria.

In the meantime, Nigeria had also suffered military coups. An ex- Military Governor of Eastern Nigeria, Mr. Odumegwu Ojukwu declared the Eastern Oil rich region of Nigeria as the independent “Republic of Biafra”. It took the federal gov’t forces 3 years (May 1967 to January 1970). It is estimated that about 50,000 servicemen & up to 2-million civilians died as a result.

Humans by nature are greedy & selfish. Whenever a lot of riches /even perceived riches is found in one region, it is a recipe for trouble. Till the 19th-century European colonial powers exploited the resources of the weaker regions of the rest of the world. Existing religious, ethnic and provincial differences are exploited and countries often break up because one region does not want to share their wealth with the rest of the population.

A most recent example is Sudan. South Sudan is Christian and the north is Muslim. A low key civil war had been going on from time to time since independence. Oil was first discovered in Sudan in the South in 1978. In 1983 Sudan People’s Liberation Army (SPLA) was established in 1983 and the civil war broke out again. Peace was established in 2005 granting autonomy to South Sudan for 6 years and the then hold a referendum in the South. February 2011 referendum showed 98% south Sudanese opting for independence.

Sudan has 5-billion barrels of oil reserves and produces about 490K barrels a day. It is estimated that nearly 2-million people lost their lives during the long civil war.

Kekra-1 well is about 290 Km offshore, and maybe nothing will happen. However, in case substantial deposits ( 5-billion barrel or more) are discovered onshore in Sind; strengthening of support for the Sindhu Desh movement cannot be ruled out.

Honorable Sir ,,,, Last line of your post is so dam eye opening.... Sir my guess is some thing happened in kekra-1 , Why I am saying this , I am saying this after closing watching PPP behaviour and 18th amendment cry …

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

Wait....
Yemen war for oil.....
Venezuela attempted coup for oil.
IK should wait for things get little stable then go into deep drilling. Even if they find the oil and gas reserves, it will take years to build the proper infrastructure which will require money before we see some $$$.
Yeh Aladdin ka chirag Nahi ha.

Yemen war was not for oil but for influence.
Venezuella coup attempt is because US have historical enmity towards it.

 

[CHACHA"G"]

We are not nigeria nor a country with a king.
Oil imports if decreased will solve most of our problems. We have huge lot of scientists and engineers. We will be unlike them, if oil and gas reserves are found.

if we find out 5 bb of oil and if Pakistan demand is 1 mb/day of oil that will be enough for us for 15+ years , a huge relief for us ,,,,,, Keep in mind few 100 KM away india have her biggest oil facility some where around 2+ BB ...

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

if we find out 5 bb of oil and if Pakistan demand is 1 mb/day of oil that will be enough for us for 15+ years , a huge relief for us ,,,,,, Keep in mind few 100 KM away india have her biggest oil facility some where around 2+ BB ...

even if oil import bill is reduced by 75%, even then it will benifit us. We need something like this until gawader is fully active along with all special economic zones under CPEC.

 

[CHACHA"G"]

even if oil import bill is reduced by 75%, even then it will benifit us. We need something like this until gawader is fully active along with all special economic zones under CPEC.

Fully agree ,,,,, We also have to work in hallal food sector,,,,,, Govt have to make sure they facilitate private sector and youth for animal farming and Govt need to make sure the install proper and advance meat management system ,so we can at least export 20 billion $$ worth of meat and can make extra few billion $$ from other related sectors ….. for example we can use cow waist for electricity and bio-oil ……

 

[niaz]

Yemen war was not for oil but for influence.
Venezuella coup attempt is because US have historical enmity towards it.

Very correct. Yemen war is not about oil but about Sunni-Shia rivalry. Saudis oil-rich Gulf coast has a Shia majority population and potentially susceptible to Shia Iran. They do not want Iranian influence under their belly as well.

Yemen oil production peaked in 2006 at 350K bpd. By 2014 it had dropped to about 104 K bpd. By the time the civil war started in 2015, it was down to 35 K bpd. Understand Yemen reserves have been nearly exhausted.

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[zulu]

PPP wala read tu acha kiya aap ny waisy kekra 1 ki position dekhi ?india ky bilkul sath hi hai shayyed security bhi ek issue.Your suggestion is very good regarding farming and already there are so many mechanism offered par faida uthany waly kaam

Fully agree ,,,,, We also have to work in hallal food sector,,,,,, Govt have to make sure they facilitate private sector and youth for animal farming and Govt need to make sure the install proper and advance meat management system ,so we can at least export 20 billion $$ worth of meat and can make extra few billion $$ from other related sectors ….. for example we can use cow waist for electricity and bio-oil ……

 

[CHACHA"G"]

PPP wala read tu acha kiya aap ny waisy kekra 1 ki position dekhi ?india ky bilkul sath hi hai shayyed security bhi ek issue.Your suggestion is very good regarding farming and already there are so many mechanism offered par faida uthany waly kaam

There is a reason behind 18th amendment !!!!!!!!!!!!!! And there is also a reason behind ppp cry …… lol they even objected Bhasha Dam ( first step towards sindho daesh) ……
Kekra-1 can look bit far from indian oil fields but under the sea they can be same...… Security will going to be issue , that is why 8 subs and 4 type 54s are coming , one big and massive purchase in 70 years ..
And on hallal meat , if we become Insan ka bacha , sirf GCC main 10 to 15 billion $$ ki export ker saktay hain… lakin koi insan ka bacha to bannay..

 

[zulu]

That Sindhu desh issue also Niaz sahib said quite possible in future giving circumferences.About meat aap ka bhai farming kar chuka Karachi main rehty quite profitable work sochain jin ka gaon sy connection unko aur kitna advantage .ek thread bhi start kiya tha jiss ny pochna hu poch ly kissi ny interest hi nahi dikhaya Sir one issue also mentality of our peoples koi kaam karny dy khud tu darty hain dosron ko bhi discourage and forgeting karobar main tu barkat ka bhi wada hai at least try even on small level.u in Australia ???king of meat producing lots of help advice they can offer to us

There is a reason behind 18th amendment !!!!!!!!!!!!!! And there is also a reason behind ppp cry …… lol they even objected Bhasha Dam ( first step towards sindho daesh) ……
Kekra-1 can look bit far from indian oil fields but under the sea they can be same...… Security will going to be issue , that is why 8 subs and 4 type 54s are coming , one big and massive purchase in 70 years ..
And on hallal meat , if we become Insan ka bacha , sirf GCC main 10 to 15 billion $$ ki export ker saktay hain… lakin koi insan ka bacha to bannay..

 

[CHACHA"G"]

On and off …… kabhi idher kabhi udher ,, and on mentality ,, me nay bohat try keranay ki kosheh ki thi early 2000 main ,,,,,, koi bhi nahi aya madad ko ,,,,, family members nay tu dra dra kay mar he dala tha,, lol ..

That Sindhu desh issue also Niaz sahib said quite possible in future giving circumferences.About meat aap ka bhai farming kar chuka Karachi main rehty quite profitable work sochain jin ka gaon sy connection unko aur kitna advantage .ek thread bhi start kiya tha jiss ny pochna hu poch ly kissi ny interest hi nahi dikhaya Sir one issue also mentality of our peoples koi kaam karny dy khud tu darty hain dosron ko bhi discourage and forgeting karobar main tu barkat ka bhi wada hai at least try even on small level.u in Australia ???king of meat producing lots of help advice they can offer to us

 

[LeGenD]

Honorable VCheng.

Sir, kindly permit me to remind you that oil has been the cause of serious trouble in Saudi Arabia as well as in Nigeria.

Saudi Arabia:

King Faisal of Saudi Arabia imposed an oil embargo during the 1973 Arab Israeli war was assassinated by his nephew Prince Faisal bin Musaid on March 25, 1975. Arab media offered 3 possible motives for King Faisal’ murder.

1. Prince was annoyed with the king because his allowance was too low and that the king had forbidden him to travel abroad because of his drug taking & alcoholism.

2. Prince was engaged to one of the daughters of King Saud who was ousted in a palace coup by Faisal in 1962 and this was at her behest.

3. Prince had been educated in the USA and had many American contracts. The CIA in collusion with Mosaad exploited his animosity towards the king to punish King Faisal for the Oil embargo of 1973.


Nigeria:

Oil was first discovered in the Niger Delta in Eastern Nigeria in 1956. Oil production expanded rapidly during the 1960s (Nigeria gained independence in October 1960) and by 1966 Nigeria was producing more than 400K bpd mostly from the deposits in Eastern Nigeria.

In the meantime, Nigeria had also suffered military coups. An ex-military Governor of Eastern Nigeria, Mr. Odumegwu Ojukwu declared the Eastern Oil rich region of Nigeria as the independent “Republic of Biafra”. It took the federal gov’t forces 3 years (May 1967 to January 1970). It is estimated that about 50,000 servicemen & up to 2-million civilians died as a result.

Humans by nature are greedy & selfish. Whenever a lot of riches /even perceived riches is found in one region, it is a recipe for trouble. Till the 19th-century European colonial powers exploited the resources of the weaker regions of the rest of the world. these days existing religious, ethnic and provincial differences are exploited and countries often break up because one region does not want to share their wealth with the rest of the population.

A most recent example is Sudan. South Sudan is Christian and the north is Muslim. A low key civil war had been going on from time to time since independence in 1956. Oil was first discovered in Sudan in the South in 1978. In 1983 Sudan People’s Liberation Army (SPLA) was established in 1983 and the civil war broke out again. Peace was established in 2005 granting autonomy to South Sudan for 6 years and the then hold a referendum in the South. February 2011 referendum showed 98% south Sudanese opting for independence.

Sudan has 5-billion barrels of oil reserves and produces about 490K barrels a day. It is estimated that nearly 2-million people lost their lives during the long civil war.

Kekra-1 well is about 290 Km offshore, and maybe nothing will happen. However, in case substantial deposits (5-billion barrel or more) are discovered onshore in Sind; strengthening of support for the Sindhu Desh movement cannot be ruled out. If it were to happen in Baluchistan, one can be sure BLA would gain a lot of support. Naturally, India would be more than happy to assist the separatists in every way possible.

Niazi bhai, naa darao yaar. Already economy life-support mein hai.

Amreeka ney kaafi mulkon kee maddad bhee kee hai, bhai.

 

[VCheng]

Honorable VCheng.

Sir, kindly permit me to remind you that oil has been the cause of serious trouble in Saudi Arabia as well as in Nigeria.

Saudi Arabia:

King Faisal of Saudi Arabia imposed an oil embargo during the 1973 Arab Israeli war was assassinated by his nephew Prince Faisal bin Musaid on March 25, 1975. Arab media offered 3 possible motives for King Faisal’ murder.

1. Prince was annoyed with the king because his allowance was too low and that the king had forbidden him to travel abroad because of his drug taking & alcoholism.

2. Prince was engaged to one of the daughters of King Saud who was ousted in a palace coup by Faisal in 1962 and this was at her behest.

3. Prince had been educated in the USA and had many American contracts. The CIA in collusion with Mosaad exploited his animosity towards the king to punish King Faisal for the Oil embargo of 1973.


Nigeria:

Oil was first discovered in the Niger Delta in Eastern Nigeria in 1956. Oil production expanded rapidly during the 1960s (Nigeria gained independence in October 1960) and by 1966 Nigeria was producing more than 400K bpd mostly from the deposits in Eastern Nigeria.

In the meantime, Nigeria had also suffered military coups. An ex-military Governor of Eastern Nigeria, Mr. Odumegwu Ojukwu declared the Eastern Oil rich region of Nigeria as the independent “Republic of Biafra”. It took the federal gov’t forces 3 years (May 1967 to January 1970). It is estimated that about 50,000 servicemen & up to 2-million civilians died as a result.

Humans by nature are greedy & selfish. Whenever a lot of riches /even perceived riches is found in one region, it is a recipe for trouble. Till the 19th-century European colonial powers exploited the resources of the weaker regions of the rest of the world. these days existing religious, ethnic and provincial differences are exploited and countries often break up because one region does not want to share their wealth with the rest of the population.

A most recent example is Sudan. South Sudan is Christian and the north is Muslim. A low key civil war had been going on from time to time since independence in 1956. Oil was first discovered in Sudan in the South in 1978. In 1983 Sudan People’s Liberation Army (SPLA) was established in 1983 and the civil war broke out again. Peace was established in 2005 granting autonomy to South Sudan for 6 years and the then hold a referendum in the South. February 2011 referendum showed 98% south Sudanese opting for independence.

Sudan has 5-billion barrels of oil reserves and produces about 490K barrels a day. It is estimated that nearly 2-million people lost their lives during the long civil war.

Kekra-1 well is about 290 Km offshore, and maybe nothing will happen. However, in case substantial deposits (5-billion barrel or more) are discovered onshore in Sind; strengthening of support for the Sindhu Desh movement cannot be ruled out. If it were to happen in Baluchistan, one can be sure BLA would gain a lot of support. Naturally, India would be more than happy to assist the separatists in every way possible.

Sir, what you describe in Saudi Arabia was an internal royal family squabble, and in Nigeria was more of a religious civil war. Oil had nothing to do with primarily causing either and such ideas are floated as conspiracy theories only to deflect blame from internal fissures where it rightly belongs to alleged scheming by external powers.

Precious as oil is as a commodity, invading countries and engineering coups to control them is simply not required. The markets themselves are sufficient. What good is oil if it stays underground, unrefined and unsold.

Regarding Kekra-1, I will withhold any comments until and unless the exploitation results are evident and declared, and the possibilities you pose are not merely hypotheticals.