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HONG KONG — David Tse recalls being overcome with pride as he walked out of a British movie theater after watching “Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings,” Marvel’s latest superhero film.

“Our community has finally arrived in the West,” the British Chinese actor and writer said via telephone from Birmingham. “Every Chinese person around the world should be immensely proud of Shang-Chi.”


The film, Marvel’s first with a predominantly Asian cast, has been a hit with global audiences, earning more at U.S. theaters than any other movie during the pandemic and grossing more than $366 million worldwide since its release early last month.

But despite its box office success and the overwhelmingly positive reaction by Asian communities worldwide, it isn’t playing on a single screen in mainland China, which last year overtook North America as the world’s biggest movie market. It’s the latest film to run into trouble in the country amid rising nationalism and U.S.-China tensions.

From the beginning, “Shang-Chi” was made with China in mind. Much of the film’s dialogue is in Mandarin, and the cast includes some of Asian cinema’s biggest names, including Michelle Yeoh and the Hong Kong superstar Tony Leung, making his Hollywood film debut.

Simu Liu, a Chinese-born Canadian actor who also starred in the Netflix sitcom “Kim’s Convenience,”plays Shang-Chi, a reluctant martial arts warrior forced to confront his father. The film has been widely praised as a major step forward as Hollywood tries to improve representation of Asians and Asian Americans.


“Finally we see a strong character that isn’t stereotyped the way we have been for generations,” Tse said. “Our young people are desperate for more of them.”

“Shang-Chi” has not received the same welcome in China, where films are strictly censored and the number of foreign releases each year is limited. That has not stopped Marvel in the past -- in 2019, “Avengers: Endgame” earned $629 million from mainland Chinese audiences, more than any other foreign film in history.

Officials have not said why “Shang-Chi” has no release date, and the propaganda department of China’s ruling Communist Party, which regulates the country’s film and TV industry, did not respond to a request for comment.

Experts point to the deterioration of U.S.-China relations, rising Chinese nationalism and the character’s racist comic book past.

Marvel debuted the Shang-Chi character in 1973 amid growing American interest in martial arts movies. The early Shang-Chi comics were rife with stereotypes about Asians, the characters portrayed in unnatural yellow tones. Shang-Chi’s father, a power-hungry villain named Fu Manchu, has been criticized as a symbol of “yellow peril,” a xenophobic ideology originating in the 19th century in which Asians, especially Chinese, were viewed as a threat to Western existence.

Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige has emphasized that Fu Manchu is no longer a character in Marvel comics and that Shang-Chi’s father in the film, played by Leung, is a completely different character named Xu Wenwu. But for some the connection persists.


“Chinese audiences cannot accept a prejudiced character from 100 years ago is still appearing in a new Marvel film,” the Beijing-based film critic Shi Wenxue told the Global Times, a state-backed nationalist tabloid.

Liu, 32, who immigrated to Canada with his parents in the 1990s, has also drawn public ire over past comments critical of his birth country.

In a 2016 Twitter post, he described Chinese government censorship as “really immature and out of touch.”

The following year, in an interview with the Canadian Broadcasting Corp. that has since been taken down, Liu described China as a “third world” country where people were “dying of starvation” at the time he and his parents left. A screenshot of his comments has circulated on Weibo, a popular social networking platform in China, with one user commenting: “Then why does he play a Chinese character?”


Michael Berry, director of the UCLA Center for Chinese Studies, said Liu’s comments had been “taken out of context and politicized.”

“Once a cyberattack is waged against a film or individual in China, there are usually a series of talking points that are manufactured and then leveraged to take advantage of rising nationalist sentiment,” he told NBC News.

The anger over Liu’s comments echoes an earlier episode involving Chloé Zhao, the Beijing-born director of “Nomadland,” who made history this year when she became the first woman of color to win the Oscar for best director.


“Nomadland” had been slated for a limited mainland release, but then a 2013 interview with Filmmaker magazine resurfaced in which Zhao described China as “a place where there are lies everywhere.” She was targeted by online commenters accusing her of smearing the nation, and the film was never shown.

“Eternals,” an upcoming Marvel film directed by Zhao, could also be denied a release date in mainland China.

Berry called the treatment of Liu and Zhao a “great tragedy,” describing them as China’s “best hope for better cross-cultural understanding between China and the West.”

Many moviegoers elsewhere in the region have celebrated “Shang-Chi” for promoting that understanding.

Adrian Hong, 22, a student who has seen the film twice in Hong Kong, which has its own film regulator, said it spoke volumes about the “beauty and grace of Chinese culture.”


“The beauty of martial art, the concept of yin and yang, the incredible mythical creatures, all add to the film,” he said.

Some commenters on Weibo have also questioned the mainland government’s apparent decision against showing the film.

“Why do some people say Shang-Chi offends China?” one user asked. “The movie doesn’t offend China, but promotes traditional Chinese culture instead.”

For Tse, the actor and writer, “Shang-Chi” is all the more important because of the rampant anti-Asian racism, discrimination and violence unleashed by the coronavirus pandemic.

“This is a pushback for all the Asian hate crimes against us. It’s an answer to all the bigots who have been against us for decades,” he said. “Shang-Chi is us reclaiming our culture. It says globally, culturally, this is a new tide of history.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1280571
 
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Since you admit that Fu Manzhou is the product of Western racism, I won't talk about Fu Manzhou, just talk about Shang Qi.
Shang Qi killed his father and took a white man as his father. Do you think this is in line with Chinese culture? I can tell you that there is an idiom in China to describe this kind of person "认贼做父". The behavior of Shang Qi is seriously inconsistent with Chinese values, the west is secretly instilling the superiority of whites.
Secondly, the image of the heroine is deliberately tarnishing the image of the Chinese people.
Let's put it this way, Shang Qi screwed up in the Chinese market, and Marvel's future film box office will also be affected.
 
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Tell Hollywood to take its garbage and **** off. We don't need colored Americans who are white at heart to represent the Chinese.


And yet Shang Chi is extremely popular worldwide and now the face of Chinese. Your emotional response is delicious :lol:
 
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And yet Shang Chi is extremely popular worldwide and now the face of Chinese. Your emotional response is delicious :lol:
If US made a war movie about Korean War where coward American G.I running around headless and begging like cowards in front of PVA soldiers when being captured. I am sure, it will win a movie blockbuster in China. :lol:
 
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And yet Shang Chi is extremely popular worldwide and now the face of Chinese. Your emotional response is delicious :lol:

This is why the USA is declining. Lack of pragmatic spirit, like to do some sharp practice and screw things up.
It's superbia.
Wall Street is avaritia. Afghanistan war is ira. MAGA is invidia.
And luxuria, and gula.
But Americans are not lazy. So there are only six of the seven dragon beads. LOL

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“Our community has finally arrived in the West,” the British Chinese actor and writer said via telephone from Birmingham. “Every Chinese person around the world should be immensely proud of Shang-Chi.”
For Tse, the actor and writer, “Shang-Chi” is all the more important because of the rampant anti-Asian racism, discrimination and violence unleashed by the coronavirus pandemic.

“This is a pushback for all the Asian hate crimes against us. It’s an answer to all the bigots who have been against us for decades,” he said. “Shang-Chi is us reclaiming our culture. It says globally, culturally, this is a new tide of history.”

I'm ethnic Chinese, but I really don't care how Marvel depicts Chinese or Shang-chi or Shang Qi or whatever it is spelled.

Asians living in the West don't represent Asians living in Asia, so they shouldn't frame it like it's "glorious" for all Chinese/Asians to have a Chinese or an Asian depicted in Marvel. It sounds so stupid to us to say that an honorary character in Marvel is going to 'reclaim our culture'.

We Asians living in Asia don't need reaffirmation from the West (what's more from Marvel lmao) on our identities, for we are not insecure about our identities or culture. They should speak for themselves.
 
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I live in the West and never paid attention to any of this garbage. Mulan, Shang Chi all written and directed by White guys with secret Zionist (anti-China) propaganda embedded within...

Have not seen Mulan by Disney to date (and I have seen most if not all movies of Jet Li).
 
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As a Chinese descent in Indonesia, I don't feel the need to be represented by anyone. So why Chinese American needs so badly to be represented by other people? why they feel so insecure about their identity? If Shangchi is made by Chinese American to represent themselves, to show who they are to international community, show people the pride of their cultural identity, then it's okay. But to be represented by Marvel is... duh.

It tell the world that they're 2nd class citizens who need to be baby sit by the boss of their country.
 
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Since you admit that Fu Manzhou is the product of Western racism, I won't talk about Fu Manzhou, just talk about Shang Qi.
Shang Qi killed his father and took a white man as his father. Do you think this is in line with Chinese culture? I can tell you that there is an idiom in China to describe this kind of person "认贼做父". The behavior of Shang Qi is seriously inconsistent with Chinese values, the west is secretly instilling the superiority of whites.
Secondly, the image of the heroine is deliberately tarnishing the image of the Chinese people.
Let's put it this way, Shang Qi screwed up in the Chinese market, and Marvel's future film box office will also be affected.

To be honest, Chinese need to buy Fu Manchu's franchise from the author family, and make a film of him.

You see Fu as a symbol of racism, because he was created by a European author. But look at him. The symbol of Yellow Peril. The man who stole White people's woman. An Immortal who can life almost forever. A genius doctor, who maybe invented immortality. The symbol of struggle against Britain occupation in Asia. A Manchurian Prince who side in the lost side of Boxer rebellion. The symbol of struggle against white supremacy in early 20th century.

Face it. He's a great Chinese hero persona. So China should buy the franchise, and make the movie about "Yellow Peril, Fu Manchu". The hero of Chinese people who was frightened by western occupiers. It will be great if Donny Yen play as this character in Chinese version of Fu Manchu.

It is become a racism because Fu was personalized as the symbol of Yellow Peril, the enemy of Western domination world, And the enemy of a movie about the copy of Sherlock Holmes character. So it will be cool if Fu Manchu the yellow peril nightmare versus Sherlock Holmes persona in Chinese version of this racism franchise. To tell western domination that this monster is actually an Asian greatest hero.
 
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HONG KONG — David Tse recalls being overcome with pride as he walked out of a British movie theater after watching “Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings,” Marvel’s latest superhero film.

“Our community has finally arrived in the West,” the British Chinese actor and writer said via telephone from Birmingham. “Every Chinese person around the world should be immensely proud of Shang-Chi.”


The film, Marvel’s first with a predominantly Asian cast, has been a hit with global audiences, earning more at U.S. theaters than any other movie during the pandemic and grossing more than $366 million worldwide since its release early last month.

But despite its box office success and the overwhelmingly positive reaction by Asian communities worldwide, it isn’t playing on a single screen in mainland China, which last year overtook North America as the world’s biggest movie market. It’s the latest film to run into trouble in the country amid rising nationalism and U.S.-China tensions.

From the beginning, “Shang-Chi” was made with China in mind. Much of the film’s dialogue is in Mandarin, and the cast includes some of Asian cinema’s biggest names, including Michelle Yeoh and the Hong Kong superstar Tony Leung, making his Hollywood film debut.

Simu Liu, a Chinese-born Canadian actor who also starred in the Netflix sitcom “Kim’s Convenience,”plays Shang-Chi, a reluctant martial arts warrior forced to confront his father. The film has been widely praised as a major step forward as Hollywood tries to improve representation of Asians and Asian Americans.


“Finally we see a strong character that isn’t stereotyped the way we have been for generations,” Tse said. “Our young people are desperate for more of them.”

“Shang-Chi” has not received the same welcome in China, where films are strictly censored and the number of foreign releases each year is limited. That has not stopped Marvel in the past -- in 2019, “Avengers: Endgame” earned $629 million from mainland Chinese audiences, more than any other foreign film in history.

Officials have not said why “Shang-Chi” has no release date, and the propaganda department of China’s ruling Communist Party, which regulates the country’s film and TV industry, did not respond to a request for comment.

Experts point to the deterioration of U.S.-China relations, rising Chinese nationalism and the character’s racist comic book past.

Marvel debuted the Shang-Chi character in 1973 amid growing American interest in martial arts movies. The early Shang-Chi comics were rife with stereotypes about Asians, the characters portrayed in unnatural yellow tones. Shang-Chi’s father, a power-hungry villain named Fu Manchu, has been criticized as a symbol of “yellow peril,” a xenophobic ideology originating in the 19th century in which Asians, especially Chinese, were viewed as a threat to Western existence.

Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige has emphasized that Fu Manchu is no longer a character in Marvel comics and that Shang-Chi’s father in the film, played by Leung, is a completely different character named Xu Wenwu. But for some the connection persists.


“Chinese audiences cannot accept a prejudiced character from 100 years ago is still appearing in a new Marvel film,” the Beijing-based film critic Shi Wenxue told the Global Times, a state-backed nationalist tabloid.

Liu, 32, who immigrated to Canada with his parents in the 1990s, has also drawn public ire over past comments critical of his birth country.

In a 2016 Twitter post, he described Chinese government censorship as “really immature and out of touch.”

The following year, in an interview with the Canadian Broadcasting Corp. that has since been taken down, Liu described China as a “third world” country where people were “dying of starvation” at the time he and his parents left. A screenshot of his comments has circulated on Weibo, a popular social networking platform in China, with one user commenting: “Then why does he play a Chinese character?”


Michael Berry, director of the UCLA Center for Chinese Studies, said Liu’s comments had been “taken out of context and politicized.”

“Once a cyberattack is waged against a film or individual in China, there are usually a series of talking points that are manufactured and then leveraged to take advantage of rising nationalist sentiment,” he told NBC News.

The anger over Liu’s comments echoes an earlier episode involving Chloé Zhao, the Beijing-born director of “Nomadland,” who made history this year when she became the first woman of color to win the Oscar for best director.


“Nomadland” had been slated for a limited mainland release, but then a 2013 interview with Filmmaker magazine resurfaced in which Zhao described China as “a place where there are lies everywhere.” She was targeted by online commenters accusing her of smearing the nation, and the film was never shown.

“Eternals,” an upcoming Marvel film directed by Zhao, could also be denied a release date in mainland China.

Berry called the treatment of Liu and Zhao a “great tragedy,” describing them as China’s “best hope for better cross-cultural understanding between China and the West.”

Many moviegoers elsewhere in the region have celebrated “Shang-Chi” for promoting that understanding.

Adrian Hong, 22, a student who has seen the film twice in Hong Kong, which has its own film regulator, said it spoke volumes about the “beauty and grace of Chinese culture.”


“The beauty of martial art, the concept of yin and yang, the incredible mythical creatures, all add to the film,” he said.

Some commenters on Weibo have also questioned the mainland government’s apparent decision against showing the film.

“Why do some people say Shang-Chi offends China?” one user asked. “The movie doesn’t offend China, but promotes traditional Chinese culture instead.”

For Tse, the actor and writer, “Shang-Chi” is all the more important because of the rampant anti-Asian racism, discrimination and violence unleashed by the coronavirus pandemic.

“This is a pushback for all the Asian hate crimes against us. It’s an answer to all the bigots who have been against us for decades,” he said. “Shang-Chi is us reclaiming our culture. It says globally, culturally, this is a new tide of history.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1280571
don't need the token Asian in an white man's marvel universe.
 
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To be honest, Chinese need to buy Fu Manchu's franchise from the author family, and make a film of him.

It's impossible. The family created a character who insulted China. China can't give them any money.
The Chinese govt will certainly do so:
1, Any film related to the role can not be shown in China.
2, According to the influence of Fu Manzhou and Shang Qi, the number of screenings of Marvel films in China will be reduced. The greater the influence, the greater the restriction on marvel.
3, Seize the world hegemony of American entertainment industry.
4, Collect data, and prepare to sue the Fu Manzhou family and marvel company in the name of racial discrimination in China in the future, and prepare a huge ticket.
 
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