Many Turks seek Pakistani citizenship

[BATMAN]

Don't grant them citizenship. Traitors need to serve their time

Forgiveness is better approach and if they fault again, then they are responsible.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

Innocent till proven guilty is a lost proverb confined or just coined?

Pakistan has deep relations with the state of Turkey and Turkish people. It goes beyond written history.

These people probably left turkey because of fear of prosecution and trial . They are seeking political asylum in Pakistan just like Altafa is residing in United kingdom and do u think Pakistani government will reject the request from turkey government if it ask us to send them back to face trial in their home country turkey?

 

[El Sidd]

Turkish people can be a good influence on our pathetic state. Not to mention, they are our biggest allies.

If we can give the cancerous people of Afghanistan (hate me for it, but its true) refugee or nationalities, even though they hate us and are literally the worst influence on this country and the world. Why can't we give it to Turkish people who are way better than us?

You do know when you do not value yourself, do not expect others to.
You have an infectious 'disease' which English language tries best in explaining as 'insecurity'.
Respect yourself as a human being and you will know that everyone is equal. Snap out of this 'Colonial British' doctrine that people of sub continent are inferior.
They destroyed your civilization and rewrote your history and even your beliefs. Mentally imprisoned surely are the living dead.

And yes I agree with you. Afghans and Turkish are both same to us and if we can invite one half of the family we can surely entertain the second half.

p.s. Sorry if I was harsh but there is no gentle therapy for this.

These people probably left turkey because of fear of prosecution and trial . They are seeking political asylum in Pakistan just like Altafa is residing in United kingdom and do u think Pakistani government will reject the request from turkey government if it ask us to send them back to face trial in their home country turkey?

You need to decide first if they are running out of fear or carry political ambitions first.

And it is depressing to hear that you think only 'criminals' and 'traitor likes' head towards Pakistan. You sir are a champion of Pakistani foreign policy, Mr. Ambassador.

 

[shahbaz baig]

wellcome wellcome turkish people wellcome..
i have home in pak for my turkish and chinese brothers

one chinese family is living with my cousins without rent.. they shares happiness together

if any turkey brother want to live in pak. u can first contact me here..

 

[Manama]

You do know when you do not value yourself, do not expect others to.
You have an infectious 'disease' which English language tries best in explaining as 'insecurity'.
Respect yourself as a human being and you will know that everyone is equal. Snap out of this 'Colonial British' doctrine that people of sub continent are inferior.
They destroyed your civilization and rewrote your history and even your beliefs. Mentally imprisoned surely are the living dead.

And yes I agree with you. Afghans and Turkish are both same to us and if we can invite one half of the family we can surely entertain the second half.

p.s. Sorry if I was harsh but there is no gentle therapy for this.

Oh please! I am not obligated to respect this land or its people just because I was born here. There is something most Pakistani suffer with but that isn't "insecurity", its "blind patriotism". Our nation has issues and problems, turning away from them won't do anything, atleast we should acknowledge them and not act ignorant when it comes to an outsider using facts and logic towards us.

I don't dislike the Afghanistani people because of some British brainwashing, i don't like them (and most of Pakistan) due to its toxic culture, barbaric customs, and the people who refuse to leave their old ways and move with times and settle with it, not only that but they not only refuse to go back and do something for their own country, they also hate us with passion.
To me Turkey is special because of how they changed with times, how the essence of their past didn't prevent them from moving on, how having a dictator didn't stop them from taking in people of the Ummah who were suffering.
We, however, didn't take the refugees because we were too busy feeding the generation of our "beloved" neighbors who we can't even identify due to the rate people breed. Neither have we moved on from the past nor are we able to settle in the present.

This shows greatly when half of Pakistan have the typical British, American, Israel-hating mindset. I don't blame Britain for our past, we had it coming because of our own weaknesses, thats how wars work. I don't blame Israel because again Palestine ruined everything for themselves. China was also under British rule and got freedom way after us and yet look how Pakistan is acting like a slave to China under the guise of friendship. They could also blame Britain but no they walked towards the future.
Again my point is. if we can take in Afghani people who have done nothing good or worth mentioning for Pakistan except eat and breed here while hating this very land. Why can't we take in others?

 

[El Sidd]

Oh please! I am not obligated to respect this land or its people just because I was born here. There is something most Pakistani suffer with but that isn't "insecurity", its "blind patriotism". Our nation has issues and problems, turning away from them won't do anything, atleast we should acknowledge them and not act ignorant when it comes to an outsider using facts and logic towards us.

I don't dislike the Afghanistani people because of some British brainwashing, i don't like them (and most of Pakistan) due to its toxic culture, barbaric customs, and the people who refuse to leave their old ways and move with times and settle with it, not only that but they not only refuse to go back and do something for their own country, they also hate us with passion.
To me Turkey is special because of how they changed with times, how the essence of their past didn't prevent them from moving on, how having a dictator didn't stop them from taking in people of the Ummah who were suffering.
We, however, didn't take the refugees because we were too busy feeding the generation of our "beloved" neighbors who we can't even identify due to the rate people breed. Neither have we moved on from the past nor are we able to settle in the present.

This shows greatly when half of Pakistan have the typical British, American, Israel-hating mindset. I don't blame Britain for our past, we had it coming because of our own weaknesses, thats how wars work. I don't blame Israel because again Palestine ruined everything for themselves. China was also under British rule and got freedom way after us and yet look how Pakistan is acting like a slave to China under the guise of friendship. They could also blame Britain but no they walked towards the future.
Again my point is. if we can take in Afghani people who have done nothing good or worth mentioning for Pakistan except eat and breed here while hating this very land. Why can't we take in others?

And I agree with you that Turks are most welcome just like Afghans.

And I disagree with you simply because you are impatient and naive in your approach.

All I am asking is just re-read your post and come back to me afterwards. I will wait for you and will respond to the above post only after you reiterate the above desires.

 

[Manama]

And I agree with you that Turks are most welcome just like Afghans.

And I disagree with you simply because you are impatient and naive in your approach.

All I am asking is just re-read your post and come back to me afterwards. I will wait for you and will respond to the above post only after you reiterate the above desires.

Enlighten me then, what is wrong with what I said? Because i wouldn't have said it if i didn't believe it.
I don't see why am i "impatient and naive" because of that.
Maybe you can explain?

 

[El Sidd]

Enlighten me then, what is wrong with what I said? Because i wouldn't have said it if i didn't believe it.
I don't see why am i "impatient and naive" because of that.
Maybe you can explain?

I do not believe in imposing any idea or belief on anyone. Every human is enlightened by Birth, they may however require realization.

The problem is with your unfair attitude towards your own self. You are happy letting the Brits make a mockery of yourself and own it and let it shape you but you are not at all happy when you have a chance to contribute towards independent growth.

We follow even when told to lead. That is an enigma to our DNA but evolution is a like music, it has a rhythm and we are just starting to hit the C sharp.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

You need to decide first if they are running out of fear or carry political ambitions first.

And it is depressing to hear that you think only 'criminals' and 'traitor likes' head towards Pakistan. You sir are a champion of Pakistani foreign policy, Mr. Ambassador.

You are just putting words in my mouth baba ji. There is difference between refugees/asylum seekers and immigrants

running out of fear? what do you mean? fear of prosecution ?

I am just sharing my personal opinion so stop getting emotional and get off from your high horse

 

[El Sidd]

You are just putting words in my mouth baba ji

running out of fear? what do you mean? fear of prosecution ?

I am just sharing my personal opinion so stop getting emotional and get off from your high horse

You just made baba ji speechless.
You are true to your nickname- a proud Pakistani.
Sorry for the inconvenience.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

You just made baba ji speechless.
.

Its good to be speechless baba ji when you cannot comprehend others

 

[Manama]

I do not believe in imposing any idea or belief on anyone. Every human is enlightened by Birth, they may however require realization.

The problem is with your unfair attitude towards your own self. You are happy letting the Brits make a mockery of yourself and own it and let it shape you but you are not at all happy when you have a chance to contribute towards independent growth.

We follow even when told to lead. That is an enigma to our DNA but evolution is a like music, it has a rhythm and we are just starting to hit the C sharp.

You can't call me impatient or naive and then come up with nothing to back those claims up.
This feels like a very weird fortune telling session, where the said person comes up with nothing to back his claim except fancy words.
So I am unfair towards myself because i dislike certain people for who they actually are, and I give proper reasoning for that except shouting patriotism?
Everyone can give an opinion but opinion without proper reasoning is nothing more than a delusional joke.
What more can i do for "independent growth" more than studying Islam, and mind you Islam is what proves all these cultures to be barbaric and pathetic, not just the west.
Like I mentioned before, most Pakistanis have typical blaming mindset, they blame America, Britain or Israel for their own failures because God forbid! if Pakistanis ever admit how pathetic they are. And the reasons they put forward for this blame game are hilarious. You got no reason to hate the west except your own insecurities.
Also that last sentence of yours doesn't even make any sense.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

And yes I agree with you. Afghans and Turkish are both same to us

US? Just speak for yourself
I don't Afghan in here until they get rid of anti Pakistan policy and mindset . they prefer India over Pakistan so they should take asylum in India

Turkish brothers are welcome as long as they are not wanted by their own government for criminal charges as others turk member suggested

 

[Manama]

US? Just speak for yourself
I don't Afghan in here until they get rid of anti Pakistan policy and mindset . they prefer India over Pakistan so they should take asylum in India

couldn't agree more

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Form a federation United Turkey / Pakistan