Many Muslims in Europe publicly abandoning Islam, becoming Christians

[narcon]

Congratulations. You missed the Yazidis and the people of Mosul.

People Who Left Islam - WikiIslam

 

[Mav3rick]

Muslim 'apostates' come out of hiding in Europe - The Times of India

BRUSSELS: A number of Muslims in Europe are publicly abandoning their religion to become Christians or agnostics despite their former community's taboo against such acts.
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For his mother, it's also "the fear that my child is going to hell." He estimated that there may be around 10,000 agnostics among
London's Muslim community of 600,000.

Good for them all. I am most confident that Islam does not need such people

 

[Dubious]

Wonderful, but only if you can convince Pakistani law and society of that wisdom, as an example for others to follow. Thanks!

When they are brainwashed idiots like you repeating this:

Islam is only what Muslims actually do, and death for apostasy is part of what they do.

People actually start believing it is true

an veritable Army of Ulemas of each country who have devoted their life to studying Islam back this.

Usually it is just the Mullah of the Sultan/ King/ Ruler who has passed the law...No army (again against Islam as Islam requires a council to pass a law)

As far as devotion is concerned MOST of these Mullahs are only there coz they are a yes man person....Nothing to do with their devotion...its all about money how much they earn that much they twist...

And then people like you (who have no knowledge and people like @Syed.Ali.Haider who cant be bothered with a little bit of research end up repeating it loud enough to be heard and spread like wild fire!

This is not to mention that Saudi Arabia, the country where Islam was founded also has Apostasy laws in which death is awarded to those who leave Islam. And forgive us - but we do believe that Saudi Arabia would know Islam better than others and their Ulemas more qualified.

That is your slave mentality....Nowhere in the Quran does it say that Islam is for Arabs ONLY....hence they are not the only ones who can learn the Quran...

 

[Dubious]

Salman Rushdie

He wrrote propaganda and went to another country and begged for citizenship....Alot of asskissers everywhere

collect the 3 million dollar bounty on his head

Yet he is alive breathing and enjoying Western life...Seems to have suited him well to be a bounty?

 

[VCheng]

There is no prescribed punishment for apostasy in Islam. Quran is clear Allah will deal with people on judgement day.

Such attempts to project a "softer" image of the harsh reality of Islam as it is being practiced today fail totally Sir, since their disingenuity is evident to all.

 

[HariPrasad]

Young Australians now crossing over to Islam

No Cookies | dailytelegraph.com.au

Growing numbers convert to Islam in PNG - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Why are an increasing number of white Australians converting to Islam? | Blogging theology

Long history with Islam gives Indigenous Australians pride


and so on and so on the same goes for Europe, America etc etc

islam is a major faith it is only natural for some without faith to leave but many others will always come to take their place and then some


now you could try to provide counter article's but it would just emphasise that some people leave and some come

islam is now 1.7 billion and growing between our birth rate and conversion to Islam we are increasing by many millions each year

Iranian Church Sees Growing Muslim Convert Population Despite Risk of Death

6 Million Muslims convert to Christianity - Al-Jazeerah ! - Topix

 

[hussain0216]

Iranian Church Sees Growing Muslim Convert Population Despite Risk of Death

6 Million Muslims convert to Christianity - Al-Jazeerah ! - Topix

Great so you have a christian newsite and already debunked newstory with no legit source

oh the desperation from the hinds

 

[hussain0216]

Congratulations. You missed the Yazidis and the people of Mosul.

Dont worry sunshine their on our list

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Dont worry sunshine their on our list

Yes, we saw that on Television.

 

[BigBill]

Just wonder, is there any report how many Christians and Catholics become Muslims in Europe? I know the percentage of Muslims in Europe are increasing every year.

 

[Jaanbaz]

Such attempts to project a "softer" image of the harsh reality of Islam as it is being practiced today fail totally Sir, since their disingenuity is evident to all.

No one can deny the violence that is happening in Muslim countries. Neither can I deny that apostates are condemned to death. I'm only saying what the Quran says. As I said according to Quran there is no worldly punishment for apostasy. The question should be are Muslims actually following Quran or corrupt clergy? I'm sure you are smart enough to figure that out.

 

[Jaanbaz]

Was the whole nation such as Iran at Quranic violations when it declared Salman Rushdie an Apostate and asked for its head with an International Fatwa to kill him anywhere and collect the 3 million dollar bounty on his head?

Yes.

 

[deepak.chauhan2312]

Muslim 'apostates' come out of hiding in Europe - The Times of India

BRUSSELS: A number of Muslims in Europe are publicly abandoning their religion to become Christians or agnostics despite their former community's taboo against such acts.

In France, the film "The Apostle" by filmmaker Cheyenne Carron has meanwhile lifted the veil on "apostasy" by telling the story of a young Muslim who converted to Catholicism and how he had trouble getting family and friends to accept his choice.

"It is time for us to stop hiding," said Pastor Said Oujibou, 46, who left radical Islam for evangelical protestantism and who is among the few converts to have publicized his decision in France.

He said he is "tolerated" by his former co-religionists, even if he admits to having sparked "sarcasm and annoyance" from them.

But he warned against the "double talk" that certain branches of Islam in France close to the Muslim Brotherhood and Salafists use toward apostate Muslims.

"Apostasy is a taboo in Muslim culture and if the text of the Quran does not provide for any punishment, prophetic tradition calls for killing apostates," said Radouane Attiya, a former preacher trained in Saudi Arabia who is now a specialist on Islam at Liege University in Belgium.

Specialists said that more people become Muslim in Europe than leave the faith but Muslims converting to Christianity, especially evangelical protestantism, are on the rise, according to Oujibou.

Evangelicals seek to proselytise in working class and immigrant neighbourhoods where there are many Muslims.

"In Europe, as in Arab countries, there is a rampant atheism gaining ground. But what is new is the search for visibility," Attiya said.

He said "Islamic radicalism, world jihadism are contributing to the emergence of a reverse radicalism."

Ahmed, a Belgian engineer in his forties, abandoned Islam because he said he rejected the "total control" his former religion has over people's lives.

Ahmed spoke only on condition of anonymity and said he was also "fed up with the omnipresence of fundamentalists," and what he called "the hypocrisy of Islam."

He joined a group that fights Muslim "indoctrination," one that has around ten members, "very little financial means" and a website publicising the books of Robert Spencer, an American anti-Muslim blogger who has been accused of racism and incitement to hatred.

Similar organisations have existed for several years in Britain and Germany, made up of Iranian exiles.

In September, the Central Council of Ex-Muslims in Germany called for a protest against a handful of Salafists who proclaimed themselves "police of the Sharia," Islamic law, in the western city of Wuppertal.

"It's true," Ahmed said, "that somehow we join the extreme right, but Islam is also the extreme right. It's up to us to clean house."

Imtiaz Shams, 25, who comes from what he calls a "very conservative" Muslim family in London, may not be an activist like Ahmed.

But he renounced his faith before his family two years ago and joined an "underground community" for former Muslims that now numbers around 300 people in London.

"We do weekly meet-ups, we take care of each other. This is not even the tip of the iceberg. It's a couple of ice cubes on top of the iceberg," Shams said.

"We don't really fit in with the activist ex-Muslim stuff. It's more personal," he said.

He said it is very difficult for Muslims to "come out" before their families.

"People feel hurt, because they feel like you are rejecting something, almost spitting in their face even if you have respect for their faith," he said.

For his mother, it's also "the fear that my child is going to hell." He estimated that there may be around 10,000 agnostics among London's Muslim community of 600,000.

good decision by them.Their future generation will be secure and will not become terrorists

 

[VCheng]

When they are brainwashed idiots like you repeating this:

No one can deny the violence that is happening in Muslim countries. Neither can I deny that apostates are condemned to death. I'm only saying what the Quran says. As I said according to Quran there is no worldly punishment for apostasy. The question should be are Muslims actually following Quran or corrupt clergy? I'm sure you are smart enough to figure that out.

What I say is proven true every day: Islam is only what Muslims actually do, despite all claims to the contrary just like the ones in this thread..

 

[Hulk]

Who are you kidding?
It is legally a crime to leave Islam in Pakistan - punishable by death should the Judge so decide.
It is a crime to leave Islam in Saudi Arabia. It is a crime in almost every Muslim majority country to leave Islam..those people who do are persecuted...and here you are conveniently chatting away on a forum saying 'its no biggie'.

Seriously, so if this is true.
if you are not Muslim than you are Kufar and you will not have same right in these countries.
If you are a Muslim and want to leave than even worse you will be killed.

I am at loss cannot believe god can have rules like these. I feel a lot of time personal opinions are injected as religious beliefs or god desire.