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Man with 4 wives 19 children commits suicide

Sir government can educate you but can't compel you to practice these things in life. and its more about common sense.

i personally have tried telling few ppl about not going with such a large family when you can't get them proper life.

and there were two explainations

1) more Kids, more helping hands in the family

2) Kids are gift of god. not having them is against our religious beliefs

and when argument got escalated. . i was asked to shut up and stay out of it because i'm not a part of their community :D
I too faced the same thing, Even doctors who advise family planning are told its against their religion.There are some sane educated ones who have 2 kids and look after them well, but not all 70% of them still follow many wives and atleast one cricket team policy.There was a case of mother and daughter(married) both getting pregnant and delivering babies in same hospital. It was second kid for daughter while it was i donno 9th kid for mother i think.
 
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Sorry for saying this but People like him only deserve curse nothing less than that! There should be government-imposed limit of two children allowed per family. Until and unless government won't impose such limits, no one can work for their emancipation...:tdown:
Arey yar I was just wondering if there wouldn't have been any full stop to his hard work then........
Gov action cant be called everywhere else it would be labelled as anti of people fundamental rights by our side of fundoos.....
We should discourage by removing all gov financial benefits to those who indulge in creating Arvind Kejriwal s Mohalla sabha by having dozens of dozens kids.....
 
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Sir government can educate you but can't compel you to practice these things in life. and its more about common sense.

i personally have tried telling few ppl about not going with such a large family when you can't get them proper life.

and there were two explainations

1) more Kids, more helping hands in the family

2) Kids are gift of god. not having them is against our religious beliefs

and when argument got escalated. . i was asked to shut up and stay out of it because i'm not a part of their community :D
1) is a selfish argument.

2) You should have asked him how? When kids happen they are a gift from god.. when they dont happen then what they?
 
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What can govt. do?
If they start regulating madarsas the "seculars" start crying. - The "seculars" have managed to exempt Madarsas from Right to Education because they are minority institutiion
If they start family planning the "seculars" start crying
When BJP says to implement Uniform Civil Code which will make all this 4 wife nonsense illegal the "seculars" and Pakistani start crying for minority rights
The "Seculars" actually encourage this hum 5 hamare 25 because these 25 will become the future vote bank

It is the Muslim community who has to look into its own hearts and say "We will get out of this regressive thinking and make our community a part of the modern world with other mainstream Indians."

No it doesnt.. no community comes up just like that. there has to be encouragement from pragmatic elements.
A simple "its not our problem" will not solve it.

the 4 wife nonsense has a simple religious clause that the BJP would know about had it actually bothered to consider Islam as an Indian religion.. that you are not to take in 4 wives unless you can afford them and treat them. If the BJP can condescend to talk to clerics in Gujrat for a vote bank.. it sure can take in their cooperation to implement a civil law that forbids polygamy unless strict financial conditions are met followed by social checks.

Government make the rules. But implementation of such rules which have been intertwined with religious prejudices have always been a burdensome task for the government and it's different institutions. Poor Muslims in most of the border districts hesitate to visit health centers and provide their children with necessary vaccinations in spite of repeated government appeals. The ignorance on health, nourishment of mother and children have been appallingly pathetic among the Muslims mainly. It will be easy to blame them first hand but the problem is far deeply rooted where the Government has very little to do.

Poor in many areas resist going to such places because they are not educated about it. Any one who is less educated will follow what is closest to his understanding. If the local cleric is changed or convinced to promote it.. then see them all flock to the health clinics.
 
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India said it will continue to allow growing birth rates until they reach 1.7 Billion people (read from other thread) so unfortunately these type of incidents will continue. He was an idiot for having so many kids if he was dirt poor.

Yes 4 can be like your Mother or Sister too and other ladies like your mother and sister at one time. :enjoy:

What happen to that indefinite break? :whistle:
 
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time to scrap this muslim marriage act (5 wives / 5*4=20 kids) , ho gaya bharat nirman !
we must bring common civil code , modi has promised of bringing it , law and rules must be equal for everyone.
aise toh yeh hamara population 2 billion cross karvadenge , and then keep crying of injustice.
 
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Poor in many areas resist going to such places because they are not educated about it. Any one who is less educated will follow what is closest to his understanding. If the local cleric is changed or convinced to promote it.. then see them all flock to the health clinics.

It's not an easy task to intervene in such issues and I highly doubt the government will be too willing to involve in appointment of clergies on local level. In my view, more and more participation of Muslims in general schools should be encouraged from block development levels, at the same time most of the state governments should demonstrate honest efforts for modernization of Madrassas and reorganize it's curriculum. It has been seen that some of the states are guilty of outright violation of article 30 of Indian constitution. This needs an urgent check.
More and more NGOs should be sent on a regular basis to build awareness on sanitation and health care,only then perhaps we would see a decent recuperation from the present condition of utter precariousness.
 
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1) is a selfish argument.

2) You should have asked him how? When kids happen they are a gift from god.. when they dont happen then what they?

Khuda ke raza, something like this..

It's almost impossible to convince one for contraception in our part of the word, they think it's blasphemy. A lady straight away declared me a foreign agent a year ago for explaining her the advantages of contraception.
 
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Then it is the fault of the government and those educated ones from ANY majority or minority in India. These people are Indian Citizens and hence should be watched over as to what they are being taught, what they are being preached and what actions are they undertaking.

After all, if the government can be so vociferous about terror threats from a minority.. why can it not take steps to prevent wrong education or religious indoctrination that supports careless family planning?

It is too complicated.Government cant enforce people for family planning .If someone try for it then it may become a controversial issue and entire good intentions of govt (or some educated people in minority itself ,or even a Muslim priest), may twisted and change it as the atrocities against minority.
Illiterate people resist family planning at any cost .And third rate politicians will use it for third rate politics.It is a reality in India
No one in India dont care about their responsibilities .This man with 4 wives and 19 childrens. and in a city like Delhi.Seems he dont care about the future consequences.Unintentionally he destroy the life of the 4 womens.
Majority also suffered problem like this but they dont get that much care because they are majority.
RIP
 
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