Malaysian PM: We have no Muslim country to protect us, but that doesn't mean this should be forever

[Indus Pakistan]

i wonder what Egypt do for Saudi Arab to get far more better goodies then Pakistan.

They be Arabs. Blood before religion. [don't tell that to the Pakistani's]

Do you see Christians uniting? It's 2019 and religion is becoming irrelevant in most of the world.

This needs framing in gold and hung on every Pakistani household.

 

[Philip the Arab]

They be Arabs. Blood before religion. [don't tell that to the Pakistani's]

This needs framing in gold and hung on every Pakistani household.

Isn't that logical? Humans were made to like the people who act, and look like them more than others who don't. I know Pakistanis act like they don't like Pakistanis over other ethnicities but they do regardless of religion.

Do you see Swedes having unity with Russians because they are Christian?

 

[313ghazi]

Do you see Christians uniting? It's 2019 and religion is becoming irrelevant in most of the world. You can imagine some "ummah" in your wet dreams but the muslim community is too big for it. Prophet Muhammad probably never imagined it would grow to be 1 billion people when at the time of his death it was not over ten thousand at the most.

What do you think the U in USA stands for? The UNITED States of America.

What do you think the U in EU stands for? The European UNION.

What does the T in NATO stand for? The North Atlantic TREATY organisation.

After they split us, they went about uniting to consolidate thier own power. What is the common trait of all these organisations - Christian heritage.

Only you people are too stupid to see it for what it is. You'd only accept it if there was a papal empire subjegating you.

During a joint new conference with Turkey's President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir bin Mohamad said the cooperation between the two countries will help to relieve the Muslim Ummah from being subjugated.

Solidarity between Turkey, Malaysia and Pakistan is necessary for the unity of the Islamic world, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said addressing a joint news conference with Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir bin Mohamad on Thursday.

Mohamad echoed the statement saying, “Cooperation between Malaysia and Turkey will help to relieve the Muslim Ummah from being subjugated by others."

"If you look at the past, Turkey was the saviour of the Muslim Ummah in those days, but for reasons that few are able to understand we now have no Muslim country to stand up and protect us, but that doesn't mean that this should be forever," said Mohamad.

source: https://www.trtworld.com/turkey/turkey-was-the-saviour-of-muslim-ummah-malaysian-pm-28522
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What the Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir bin Mohamad said is that the friendly and brotherly countries must stand side by side with courage. Together we can build a fair and strong order.

He is right. Note the distinct lack of mention of 2 fasadi parties.

The Arabs and the Persians.

They've had thier time - now it is ours.

 

[ziaulislam]

Wishful thinking. Its 2019 and not 1558.

/facepalm

They're talking about reviving our partnership, over new brotherhood law. Common , fair and strong order. They are not talking that one state must rules over others.

The Islamic cooperation organization is not working. It has no real commercial, military or political effect against states that oppress us. Then we need a new perspective.

Good suggestion. It is a realisation but not many have the vision & courage like Dr. Mahathir to speak their minds.

well for the protection of Malaysia and Indonesia my vote is yes!!! Pakistan and Turkey should be protectors of them. Pakistan is already a protector of UAE and Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. who is to say Malaysia is less important. ofcourse KSA is the special one because of Hejaz but other than that why not!

the problem is obvious..

there are no twomuslim countries that are no in dispute..

unless disputes are resolved any such thinking is wishful

secondly even countries with no disputes have ideological problems, the reason behind this is that many govts are monarchs and monarch will always fight for their seat rather than compromising for sake of their people..

principal of non interference and mutaul respect is lacking and lack of democrasy or concept of discussion..the society as whole is in failure..

lets start with pakistan..

we have problems with Afghanistan which is unfix-able to behonest they simply dont acknowledge Pakistan existence to begin with and want to rule like they ruled by force in 1700s for brief time..again lack of democracy is the issue here and rule of non interference..does any afghani in their right mind believe that people of FATA or KPK want to be part of aghanistan??, if not than the issue should be dead to begin with it but it is still there

than about Bangladesh?..so Bangladeshis can walk pass and talk to Britain that killed 10s of millions of Bengali through forced starvation but is 20 years later and 50 years ago it cant walk through issue of pak Bangladesh partition when it founder ultimately did?...

look at europe..how many were killed by nazis but you dont see them bitching around about it...

than look at petty fight between qatar and GCC

look at iran meddling all over the GUlf, pakistan..

look at gulf meddling in libya and rest of the arab world

look at morcco and algeria ..

look at africa...

look at turkey..eygpt..libya..Somalia situation

if we need a start..it has to start with dispute resolution..to me the issues between pakistan, afghanistan, bangladesh, qatar and gulf are trivial but still unsolvable due to whole collapse of society

now iran is different story as essentially it is ideological country that is hell bent on spreading its ideology for ideological reasons as compared to saudis who are doing it for purpose of protecting its monarch...

if you come to raw power gulf alone has more power than europe combined but that power is useless due to internal strifes..its shame as i though MBS being a younger generation will have a bigger vision but nah..he turned out to be even more narrow minded

 

[Baghial]

well for the protection of Malaysia and Indonesia my vote is yes!!! Pakistan and Turkey should be protectors of them. Pakistan is already a protector of UAE and Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. who is to say Malaysia is less important. ofcourse KSA is the special one because of Hejaz but other than that why not!

pakistan is protector of mecca ----- and madina----------- not the whole wahabi regime---

 

[ziaulislam]

in nutshell the failure of newer generation to forget about past mistakes is the reason for failure of any such allaince

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Saudi Arabia has always helped Pakistan in its most desperate times and has bailed it out many times. Whether it's during war, sanctions from nuclear tests, or bankruptcy. Pakistan essentially back-stabbed them by not helping them with Yemen.

So let's get this straight here.............Muslim Pakistan can best emphasize the "Ummah" by murdering and massacring innocent, starving and wretched Muslim Yemenese Men, Women and Children at the behest of Muslim Saudi Arabia???????...................with an "Ummah" like this who needs non-Muslim enemies..................the IQ of religious Muslims is obviously decreasing exponentially by the minute...........

 

[war&peace]

there are no twomuslim countries that are no in dispute..

Pakistan, Turkey, Malaysia, Indonesia have no disputes.
What is our dispute with Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Kazakstan, Bosnia, Albania, Mauritania, etc?

We have good relations with KSA and many GCC countries. Also the majority of Afghans are totally okay with us ...only the a handful of shit heads are against us.


I there are lot more countries with which we have no dispute at all. while with others we don't have dispute misunderstandings that is too become west imposed puppet on those countries and those puppets follow that their masters tell them to do.

The only troublesome area is middle east which has been unstable due to the puppets. Saddam, Bashar, Cisi etc

Saudi Arabia has always helped Pakistan in its most desperate times and has bailed it out many times. Whether it's during war, sanctions from nuclear tests, or bankruptcy. Pakistan essentially back-stabbed them by not helping them with Yemen.

That's true and only an idiot will deny that.

 

[ziaulislam]

Pakistan, Turkey, Malaysia, Indonesia have no disputes.
What is our dispute with Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Kazakstan, Bosnia, Albania, Mauritania, etc?

We have good relations with KSA and many GCC countries. Also the majority of Afghans are totally okay with us ...only the a handful of shit heads are against us.


I there are lot more countries with which we have no dispute at all. while with others we don't have dispute misunderstandings that is too become west imposed puppet on those countries and those puppets follow that their masters tell them to do.

The only troublesome area is middle east which has been unstable due to the puppets. Saddam, Bashar, Cisi etc

yeah how can you have disputes with countries so far of you..but look at your neighbours..afghanistan?, bangladesh?, iran?..is anyone happy?.. an allaince cant work as how can Pakistan turkey make an alliance when afghanistan iran and saudis are all at odd with each other and turkey?..how would that fit in..it will ultimatley end up being bilateral economical allaince which wont work good as regional bottlenecks are still in place

if GCC cant make amends with common interest like personal kingdoms, oil, arabic language, security,money and region how can we do?

i think islam being morphed into something else is actually the problem here than the solution!..had they been secular country GCC would have just been fine with iran, qatar and eygpt and vice versa

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

So you are saying that 10 empires hundreds of years ago had more borders & divisions then 30-50 countries today?

Stop trying to use blood-shedding in history as an argument against unification today. If you are trying to use that as a reason to argue against Islamic teachings, you are wasting your time. The same hadith(s) predicted blood-shedding and monarchy rule, just like they predict that caliphate will return.

As India's military expands in size, there is no way Pakistan will be able to keep up unless it gets help from Muslim countries - hence an alliance is always necessary. Pakistan had an alliance with Pre-Khomeini Iran and Turkey and received weapons from them during its past wars with India. Come to think of it Pakistan has been supported numerous times by Muslim countries. Even Ghaddafi gave Pakistan cash. This newfound insistence that Pakistan doesn't need anyone is garbage, it has always depending on other Muslim countries.

What you don't realize is that the Pakistan military is expanding as well........as a matter if fact it doesn't matter how much the indian military expands as Pakistan has had the capability to wipe out india and it's military of the face of the earth since at least early 2011:

http://isis-online.org/isis-reports...nuclear-weapons-time-for-pakistan-to-rever/12

The Muslim nations have NEVER helped Pakistan in a conflict. Where are you getting you info from?

 

[Placemat]

Bow down to your masters. We wont

I think after 2024 Muslim unity will come back again, of course not in full force but at least partly since Indonesia is probably lead by Islamist at that time. AKP could still retain power in Turkey. Algeria will hopefully be in the hands of Islamist leader after next election. Egypt is a big lost for political Islam after Military coup but I think Egypt will once again embrace democracy whether in 2024 or 2030 and ruled by Islamist (Muslim Brotherhood) once again. Libya is divided now but I hope GNA (Islamist) can defeat warlord Haftar as soon as possible. Pakistan is already an Islamic state. Iran is already an Islamic state. etc

The unity can come to live in a form of military and political alliance just like alliance between Turkey and Qatar now in middle east theater or just like Turkey, Iran, Qatar, and Egypt during Mursi short rule in Egypt.

In short, Muslim unity will be easily achieved if Muslim rulers are from Islamist (Political Islam) even though some time nationalist leader may have a sense of Muslim unity just like what Soekarno did during Pakistan India war and Soeharto did during Afghan war and Bosnian war.

Despite so I dont see Malaysia face any threat, it has some dispute with China in South China Sea but I doubt Malaysia will go to war for that.

Then you will all go and save Xinjiang?

 

[war&peace]

yeah how can you have disputes with countries so far of you..but look at your neighbours..afghanistan?, bangladesh?, iran?..is anyone happy?.. an allaince cant work as how can Pakistan turkey make an alliance when afghanistan iran and saudis are all at odd with each other and turkey?..how would that fit in..it will ultimatley end up being bilateral economical allaince which wont work good as regional bottlenecks are still in place

if GCC cant make amends with common interest like personal kingdoms, oil, arabic language, security,money and region how can we do?

i think islam being morphed into something else is actually the problem here than the solution!..had they been secular country GCC would have just been fine with iran, qatar and eygpt and vice versa

To form a core alliance, you don't need to be next to each other especially in the modern day. Does Japan share any border with USA? also S. Korea and Japan have disputes and rivalries similarly USA most of the NATO countries (ie. EU) are quite far apart..so that's a ridiculous argument.

Similarly, no one stops you from trade or increasing the trade with Malaysia or Turkey, forming joint ventures, collaborations in science & tech, military technology, training etc...making visa easier and giving each other preferential treatment like admission in universities, jobs, contracts, trade, tourism, cultural exchange

 

[Trango Towers]

Then you will all go and save Xinjiang?

Spot the blabberer

 

[Placemat]

Spot the blabberer

No no.. there should be a point to all these guys bandying up together

 

[padamchen]

What do you think the U in USA stands for? The UNITED States of America.

What do you think the U in EU stands for? The European UNION.

What does the T in NATO stand for? The North Atlantic TREATY organisation.

After they split us, they went about uniting to consolidate thier own power. What is the common trait of all these organisations - Christian heritage.

Only you people are too stupid to see it for what it is. You'd only accept it if there was a papal empire subjegating you.



He is right. Note the distinct lack of mention of 2 fasadi parties.

The Arabs and the Persians.

They've had thier time - now it is ours.

I like how you think.

Cheers, Doc