Malaysia scrambles hawks against PLAAF

[Last starfighter]

Malaysia scrambles Hawk 208 aircraft to confront PLAAF squadron over South China Sea
by Ridzwan Rahmat

A file image depicting a Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF) Hawk 208 in the foreground with a Hawk 108 in the background. The RMAF scrambled its Hawk 208s on 31 May in response to what it considers to be an incursion of Malaysian airspace by 16 PLAAF aircraft. (BAE Systems)
The Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF) has scrambled an unspecified number of Hawk 208 light-attack/lead-in trainer aircraft to confront a squadron of 16 People's Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF) aircraft over the South China Sea.

The encounter took place within the Kota Kinabalu flight information region (FIR) at about 1.30 pm local time on 31 May, the RMAF said in a media statement the next day.

“The PLAAF aircraft were first detected by the RMAF's air defence radar at the air defence centre in Sarawak at 11.53 am,” said the service, adding that the Chinese aircraft were flying within Malaysia's maritime zone.

The aircraft were flying in an ‘in-trail' tactical formation with a distance of about 60 n miles between them, and abruptly changed direction towards Malaysia while flying over Luconia Shoals, which Putrajaya refers to as Beting Patinggi Ali.

The shoals are administered by the Malaysian government, with the Royal Malaysian Navy (RMN) and the Malaysian Maritime Enforcement Agency (MMEA) regularly deploying assets to the area. They are also claimed by Beijing as part of its maritime territory.

According to the RMAF, the PLAAF squadron was detected at an altitude of between 23,000 and 27,000 feet, and was flying at a speed of about 290 kt through the Singapore FIR.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Hawk no match for J-20

 

[TigerOfMysore]

It is not a matter of whether they are a match or not. China and Malaysia should work their issues out together or else a third party will get in the mix to both their detriment.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

President Xi Jinping attaches great importance to China-Malaysia ties, says envoy

 

[AUz]

Malaysia is an industrialized & prosperous country and therefore it needs to invest in advanced fighter jets, C4ISR network, electronic warfare capabilities, training, and superior weapons systems (air-to-air missiles, cruise missiles, subarmines etc) to keep barbarians at bay.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Malaysia Su-30MKM no match for J-20. J-20 can kill it from very far.

 

[Titanium100]

Malaysia is an industrialized & prosperous country and therefore it needs to invest in advanced fighter jets, C4ISR network, electronic warfare capabilities, training, and superior weapons systems (air-to-air missiles, cruise missiles, subarmines etc) to keep barbarians at bay.

It has decent fighter jets like F-18 hornets and SU-30s but the incoming 16 planes were not Chinese fighter jets but plane or cargo plane.. There was no need to dispatch it's capable fighter jets.. Malaysia has also been invited to Join TF-X that is vastly superior fighter jet then J-20 but Malaysia is in no competition with China it needs these for regional security and air-superiorty.. Malaysia could enjoy air-superiority over Indonesia and Australia from 2028s upto 2040s

 

[AUz]

It has decent fighter jets like F-18 hornets and SU-30s but the incoming 16 planes were not Chinese fighter jets but plane or cargo plane.. There was no indeed to dispatch it's capable fighter jets.. Malaysia has also been invited to Join TF-X that is vastly superior fighter jet then J-20 but Malaysia is in no competition with China it needs these for regional security and air-superiorty.. Malaysia could enjoy air-superiority over Indonesia and Australia from 2028s upto 2040s

Yes, but Malaysian F-18s and Su-30s are very limited in number. Malaysia needs more squadrons and also, Malaysians need to consolidate their assets and integrate them into a network-centric battle ready force. Su-30s and F-18s arent gonna be working together efficiently. Need more homogenization.

Malaysia and Indonesia are far away from Chinese mainland, and proper investment in defense capabilities can keep the Chinese at bay. Its good to see the urgency tho. When Chinese fishing & guard vessels violated one of Indonesia's far off Island's exclusive economic zone, Indonesia immediately deployed F-16s in the area and President visited the Island & military began consolidation efforts there. That's the type of energy that is needed in the region to keep unwanted pests away

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

It has decent fighter jets like F-18 hornets and SU-30s but the incoming 16 planes were not Chinese fighter jets but plane or cargo plane.. There was no need to dispatch it's capable fighter jets.. Malaysia has also been invited to Join TF-X that is vastly superior fighter jet then J-20 but Malaysia is in no competition with China it needs these for regional security and air-superiorty.. Malaysia could enjoy air-superiority over Indonesia and Australia from 2028s upto 2040s

TF-X is no match for J-20. For starters, F110 is no match for WS-15.

 

[Leishangthem]

Myanmar took back sovereignty from Washington's(five eyes ) puppet fake democracy gov,now onus for Malaysia to take back theirs.

Yes, but Malaysian F-18s and Su-30s are very limited in number. Malaysia needs more squadrons and also, Malaysians need to consolidate their assets and integrate them into a network-centric battle ready force. Su-30s and F-18s arent gonna be working together efficiently. Need more homogenization.

Malaysia and Indonesia are far away from Chinese mainland, and proper investment in defense capabilities can keep the Chinese at bay. Its good to see the urgency tho. When Chinese fishing & guard vessels violated one of Indonesia's far off Island's exclusive economic zone, Indonesia immediately deployed F-16s in the area and President visited the Island & military began consolidation efforts there. That's the type of energy that is needed in the region to keep unwanted pests away

No such thing as EEZ

Only thing china lacks compared to the US is a propaganda term like "freedom of flight".

 

[Indos]

It has decent fighter jets like F-18 hornets and SU-30s but the incoming 16 planes were not Chinese fighter jets but plane or cargo plane.. There was no need to dispatch it's capable fighter jets.. Malaysia has also been invited to Join TF-X that is vastly superior fighter jet then J-20 but Malaysia is in no competition with China it needs these for regional security and air-superiorty.. Malaysia could enjoy air-superiority over Indonesia and Australia from 2028s upto 2040s

LOL

Turkish invite Malaysia to join TFX but so far Malaysian hasnt made any move on the offer. It is understandable since a joint project should give benefit to their local industry which I think is not significant enough for Malaysia.

TFX design has been developed by Turkish with assistance from BAE System since 2010, no room for Malaysia in giving their engineers opportunity on design experience by using this program. Not to cosider both Malaysia and Singapore lack in aerospace design expertise and also integration capabilities as their aerospace companies focus on making parts for global aerospace companies as part of supply chain.

So TFX can only give Malaysia benefit as part supplier and also try to give them experience in doing assembly and integration job that are also part of production job (not design). This kind of benefit actually can also be taken by Malaysia from other fighters program like what happen with Brazil and Rafale. Brazil of course has more sophisticated aerospace company (Embraer) compared to Malaysia, but the chance for Malaysia to get the same program is still exist if they orde lot of planes like 48 planes with higher price per plane.

So basically if Malaysia wants that to happen, what they need to do is waiting for other 5 generation fighters program to completes its development (successful program) and seek the same Brazil-Rafale offer to come. Joining TFX now will make Malaysia get some risk, as we know TFX engine is still not fix yet while Malaysia aerospace also focuse on civilian market as part supplier which is currently under pressure and possibly the difficult in finance will happen until 2026 due to the effect of current Covid Pandemic.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

It has decent fighter jets like F-18 hornets and SU-30s but the incoming 16 planes were not Chinese fighter jets but plane or cargo plane.. There was no need to dispatch it's capable fighter jets.. Malaysia has also been invited to Join TF-X that is vastly superior fighter jet then J-20 but Malaysia is in no competition with China it needs these for regional security and air-superiorty.. Malaysia could enjoy air-superiority over Indonesia and Australia from 2028s upto 2040s

Malaysia should have a 5th gen fighters in the future. And can u tell more about the TFX?

 

[Feng Leng]

They scrambled jets and then what? Go home? Don't forget it's called the South China Sea for a reason

 

[redtom]

Air space beyond 60 nautical miles? I think it is too little for China to ask for 12 nautical miles.

 

[flameboard]

There goes the jf-17 sale