And let me enlighten you ..... it is the strict rule of law in countries like UK that are holding it back from chaos. And implementing rule of law has got jack all to do with secularism. That is why such countries are favoured to make a living, not because of the secular system.
As for the secular system, it will suck those into it who think it's all glitter ... been there done it and know it all too well - it is rotten. Little do you know!
Not the whole story, again. Define this inevitable and nearly there "chaos". The reasons are far many than just the rule of law. They might include the state not concerning itself with what the individuals are doing, inside their homes (something which I believe, that you agreed with yourself, in an earlier post here), freedom of practicing religion, freedom of speech, freedom of action (with certain limitations of course), the will to respect or accept behavior or opinions different from one's own, considering all citizens "equal", good governance, low corruption, security and working institutions have all played a part. And nothing is all "glitter" ever because we don't live in utopia, mostly good will do for realistic people. And "rotten" is what you prefer, still.
As for the "living in a Sharia compliant Islamic country for a long time and enjoying it thoroughly" part, I can see clearly that its not me that you are trying to convince. Not to mention, not one of the brotherly Muslim counties are willing to offer immigrants, the citizenship and the same enjoyed by its native people.
"We complain of Islamophobia and say that other nations are disgracing us. No one is doing that. It is us who are giving a bad name to our country,"
"We have forgotten our values and are not representing our religion,"
Classic example of making a mountain out of mole-hill! I was expecting something damning, but she simply repeated what many Pakistanis said over the social media, after the incident. The facts came out different, in the end, but the initial motive found for the poor guy's murder was blasphemy. Not her mistake, right? What she said is still true, actually, even if made in a general sense (If you don't agree, see the conflict in North-West Pakistan since '01, from a foreign perspective). The denial of problems and sweeping the bad under the rug, will not get us anywhere. Addressing the elephant, in the room, will. Please, understand that only through acceptance, will there be understanding and only through understanding, will there be recovery.
And notice the word "we", she didn't exclude herself. She still considers herself to be a part of the same Pakistani nation. The way I see it is these things happening is fine, but for someone to point it out, is wrong and treacherous. I don't agree with you. I am certain that most other Pakistanis, would see the above quoted statements, just fine. I have seen far too many people, say the same, every now and then. On social media, print media, talk shows, during interaction with other people. The next criticism, please.
Yes you did engage me in a conversation with you. You quoted me first, kindly revisit the pages.
Not on, what you are complaining about now, though. I was interacting with
@Iqbal Ali over his post that the "liberal brigade" needs to be dealt with. If you are so sensitive about these issues, you probably shouldn't have quoted me and then continued the discussion.
And why is she talking on behalf of Pakistani people .... We / Us .... who qualified her!?
I will tell you what qualified her. Its simple, actually.
The nationality of Pakistan acquired through "jus soli" (the right of soil - by being born and present in one of the provinces and territories under the administration of the state of Islamic republic of Pakistan)
Pakistanis can speak on behalf of the Pakistani people, this much I think, has been established beyond the shadow of the doubt.
