Malala, Khaleda and Hasina are characterless: Hefajat E Islam Hujur

[scholseys]

this article is twisted and taken out of context

 

[A.Rafay]

Hasina and khaleda are surely characterless! But Malala is not!

 

[SHAMK9]

One of the Hefajat E Islam hujur termed Pakistani girl Malala who was shot by Taleban as characterless

This 'nobody' can go f**k off.

 

[CaPtAiN_pLaNeT]

I just watched the video.

1. The coordinator and Shahriar Kabir put word into his mouth. He didn't say Malala, Khaleda and Hasina were characterless, he didn't even say they were 'be-purdah' (didn't maintain Islamic dress code).

Do you think people are that naive or you think that some time due to busy schedule I dnt reply that gives you a free pass to spread propaganda here???

To you why according to him Malala got shot if you are saying he did not say her characterless or beporda??? He even did not condemn the Taliban for trying to kill her even justified it by saying she was trying to go above the islamic dress code by trying to bringing out other "pordanshil" or should I say religious woman from inside home as "beporda" which is a commonly termed by hujurs as charecterless ....

1st this is mentioned by hujur at 3:25.

To him the Islamic dress code that exist in Islam ... Malala was trying to bring them out above it.

Then he was again challenged at 4:25 why he was saying Malala "beporda" or characterless when she wear full hijab and cover her hair then again the hujur tried to justified his position saying Malala was trying to bring out "pordansil" or religious woman out of house. Not only that he said that wearing hijab may be enough here in Bangladesh but not in a conservative society from where she belongs...

At 5:10 when he was asked if you say Malala as beporda then you are also going to say the same about PM Hasina and opposition leader Khaleda Zia as they dnt follow the islamic dress code that you replied then he replied if anyone dnt follow that I will say so. I have talked about the law and now you can give the verdict.

Some question here???

Is it not allowed for woman to come out of the house?? What this hujur or Hefazat E Islam was trying to mean??? In Islam no one can force anything on any one then despite if someone wear hijab how can someone still call them "beporda" or charecterless???

2. When he gave example of Iran, just because it substantiated his position, Shahriar Kabir immediately asked why as a Sunni Alim he brought the example of a Shia state.

Definitely he gave the example of Iran to justify his position and his position he indicated was to implement Shairah Law in Bangladesh at 7:20. How much it is justifiable with extreme view that they possess??? So far HeI said they dnt have any political agenda but this hujur said otherwise.

Regarding Iranian woman not necessarily all wear hijab willingly. Just after coming out of the country they start wearing short skirts. If anyone want to wear hijab or burkha this should come from them willingly not by forcing.

3. Hefazat-e-Islam is not against sculpture but against construction of statues esp of human forms (as they said constructing statues in the name of sculpture).

He was given example of statues too from different countries from Egypt, Iraq to Iran. He was also mentioned about sculptures at Jeddah and position of Saudi King and VC of Al Azhar university.

But to him he is not ready to listen any of them. Suddenly he became more religious then them...


Egypt:

Syria:

Statue of Salah-Al-U-Din...

Iraq:

Iran:

4. The Alim rejected the statement of Shahriar Kabir that they are against female education. Rather he said Islam persuades female education more than male education considering the fact that education of children starts at home and the source of many ahadith is Ayesha (R) the wife of Prophet (pbuh).[/B]

To them woman and man free mixing is banned. For higher studies one will have to study in co educational institute and definitely there will be free mixing.... which is banned according to them. Here we have seen at the first case he thinks bringing out religious womans from house is some sort of crime.

Lastly I have nothing wrong against HeI but when they try to propagate extreme ideology which will not be accepted by most of the people of Bangladesh.

 

[Skallagrim]

Do you think people are that naive or you think that some time due to busy schedule I dnt reply that gives you a free pass to spread propaganda here???

To you why according to him Malala got shot if you are saying he did not say her characterless or beporda??? He even did not condemn the Taliban for trying to kill her even justified it by saying she was trying to go above the islamic dress code by trying to bringing out other "pordanshil" or should I say religious woman from inside home as "beporda" which is a commonly termed by hujurs as charecterless ....

1st this is mentioned by hujur at 3:25.

This time you are putting words into his mouth. He didn't say anything about Malala's character or whether she follows Islamic dress-code or not.

To him the Islamic dress code that exist in Islam ... Malala was trying to bring them out above it.

Yes this was all he said about Malala.

Then he was again challenged at 4:25 why he was saying Malala "beporda" or characterless when she wear full hijab and cover her hair then again the hujur tried to justified his position saying Malala was trying to bring out "pordansil" or religious woman out of house. Not only that he said that wearing hijab may be enough here in Bangladesh but not in a conservative society from where she belongs...

This is where Shahriar Kabir put words into his mouth.

At 5:10 when he was asked if you say Malala as beporda then you are also going to say the same about PM Hasina and opposition leader Khaleda Zia as they dnt follow the islamic dress code that you replied then he replied if anyone dnt follow that I will say so. I have talked about the law and now you can give the verdict.

Again putting words into his mouth, he never said that.

Some question here???

Is it not allowed for woman to come out of the house?? What this hujur or Hefazat E Islam was trying to mean??? In Islam no one can force anything on any one then despite if someone wear hijab how can someone still call them "beporda" or charecterless???

Awamis would certainly fail the GRE comprehension test.

Definitely he gave the example of Iran to justify his position and his position he indicated was to implement Shairah Law in Bangladesh at 7:20. How much it is justifiable with extreme view that they possess??? So far HeI said they dnt have any political agenda but this hujur said otherwise.

Regarding Iranian woman not necessarily all wear hijab willingly. Just after coming out of the country they start wearing short skirts. If anyone want to wear hijab or burkha this should come from them willingly not by forcing.

Iran and Khandaker Mushtaq were brought as an example when he said many Islamic laws would spontaneously be followed by people once an Islamic government is formed.

He was given example of statues too from different countries from Egypt, Iraq to Iran. He was also mentioned about sculptures at Jeddah and position of Saudi King and VC of Al Azhar university.

But to him he is not ready to listen any of them. Suddenly he became more religious then them...


Egypt:

Syria:

Statue of Salah-Al-U-Din...

Iraq:

Iran:

So??

To them woman and man free mixing is banned. For higher studies one will have to study in co educational institute and definitely there will be free mixing.... which is banned according to them. Here we have seen at the first case he thinks bringing out religious womans from house is some sort of crime.

He said nothing about free-mixing rather against the allegation of Shahriar Kabir he said he had no problem with co-education.

Lastly I have nothing wrong against HeI but when they try to propagate extreme ideology which will not be accepted by most of the people of Bangladesh.

Then better you protest against HeI's demands instead of discussing the said video.

I think you didn't listen to the discussion carefully in your haste to slander an anti-govt activist.

 

[Skallagrim]

Hasina and khaleda are surely characterless! But Malala is not!

This 'nobody' can go f**k off.

This nobody did never say that- no way to verify as you don't understand Bengali.

 

[Emmie]

I doubt the idiot even knows the age of poor kid! Don't know about Khalida and Hasina but the stature of Malala is infinite times greater than the idiot of Hefajat E Islam (K)hujur.

 

[kobiraaz]

Do you think people are that naive or you think that some time due to busy schedule I dnt reply that gives you a free pass to spread propaganda here???

To you why according to him Malala got shot if you are saying he did not say her characterless or beporda??? He even did not condemn the Taliban for trying to kill her even justified it by saying she was trying to go above the islamic dress code by trying to bringing out other "pordanshil" or should I say religious woman from inside home as "beporda" which is a commonly termed by hujurs as charecterless ....

1st this is mentioned by hujur at 3:25.

To him the Islamic dress code that exist in Islam ... Malala was trying to bring them out above it.

Then he was again challenged at 4:25 why he was saying Malala "beporda" or characterless when she wear full hijab and cover her hair then again the hujur tried to justified his position saying Malala was trying to bring out "pordansil" or religious woman out of house. Not only that he said that wearing hijab may be enough here in Bangladesh but not in a conservative society from where she belongs...

At 5:10 when he was asked if you say Malala as beporda then you are also going to say the same about PM Hasina and opposition leader Khaleda Zia as they dnt follow the islamic dress code that you replied then he replied if anyone dnt follow that I will say so. I have talked about the law and now you can give the verdict.

Some question here???

Is it not allowed for woman to come out of the house?? What this hujur or Hefazat E Islam was trying to mean??? In Islam no one can force anything on any one then despite if someone wear hijab how can someone still call them "beporda" or charecterless???





Definitely he gave the example of Iran to justify his position and his position he indicated was to implement Shairah Law in Bangladesh at 7:20. How much it is justifiable with extreme view that they possess??? So far HeI said they dnt have any political agenda but this hujur said otherwise.

Regarding Iranian woman not necessarily all wear hijab willingly. Just after coming out of the country they start wearing short skirts. If anyone want to wear hijab or burkha this should come from them willingly not by forcing.




He was given example of statues too from different countries from Egypt, Iraq to Iran. He was also mentioned about sculptures at Jeddah and position of Saudi King and VC of Al Azhar university.

But to him he is not ready to listen any of them. Suddenly he became more religious then them...


Egypt:

Syria:

Statue of Salah-Al-U-Din...

Iraq:

Iran:

To them woman and man free mixing is banned. For higher studies one will have to study in co educational institute and definitely there will be free mixing.... which is banned according to them. Here we have seen at the first case he thinks bringing out religious womans from house is some sort of crime.

Lastly I have nothing wrong against HeI but when they try to propagate extreme ideology which will not be accepted by most of the people of Bangladesh.

Syria, Iraq, Egypt both were liberal countries under secular dictators... Iran is shiaa, it doesnt concern us... Our Shafi Huzur is trying to follow Muhammad Pbuh, not current rulers and he got the support....

 

[CaPtAiN_pLaNeT]

This time you are putting words into his mouth. He didn't say anything about Malala's character or whether she follows Islamic dress-code or not.

Which word I put into his mouth??? When he was saying Malala was trying to make other woman beporda dnt you think he was referring that to Malala too. If she is not beporda then how come she was trying to make other woman beporda??? When he was asked several time why you are trying to say Malala beporda he not a single time disagree with that. Most important part he tried to justify the way Taleban tried to attack her with his comment.
Will you care to explain how Malala was trying to make other woman beporda or characterless by trying to bring them out of the house??? Or you do agree that woman should remain inside the home???

This is where Shahriar Kabir put words into his mouth.

Again putting words into his mouth, he never said that.

Where he disagreed with that instead whole time he was trying to justify that position.

Awamis would certainly fail the GRE comprehension test.

Certainly Jamaati deception is not gonna work here. Their pant is on fire.

Iran and Khandaker Mushtaq were brought as an example when he said many Islamic laws would spontaneously be followed by people once an Islamic government is formed.

So HeI wants to form islamic government which they denied so far. Or you are supporting it??

So??

So… they have created all this fuss about statue out of nothing when in many leading countries there are statues. That example was given to him initially but he refused to acknowledge that.

I think you didn't listen to the discussion carefully in your haste to slander an ant-govt activist.

1st of not only me but also everyone watched the video and many posted their comment about that in the video. Secondly HeI said they are neither against government nor with opposition party and so far their main demand is to demand punishment against the atheist blogger. But this is Jamaatis those who are having wet dream of creating a chaos and divert people attention from war crime trial through it.

Syria, Iraq, Egypt both were liberal countries under secular dictators... Iran is shiaa, it doesnt concern us... Our Shafi Huzur is trying to follow Muhammad Pbuh, not current rulers and he got the support....

No one said anything wrong about Shafi Hujur but some other key member of the HeI has link with Jamaat and Saka Chowdhury that is the main allegation.

I will post all the phone convertion clip when I will get some free time.

 

[kobiraaz]

I will post all the phone convertion clip when I will get some free time.

Fake ATN clip?? suddenly Sayedi. Mahmudur rahman, HI all are exposed by audio clips?? sounds normal to you??

 

[Imran Khan]

there is a day in history of BD when they did'nt troll or insult pakistan ? WTF is relation of a bangali mullah with malala ?

 

[CaPtAiN_pLaNeT]

Fake ATN clip?? suddenly Sayedi. Mahmudur rahman, HI all are exposed by audio clips?? sounds normal to you??

If it is fake why somebody is not proving it and getting 1 million USD that they challenged. I think government is tracking all the phone calls and recording it. It is possible. If I am not wrong mahmud Rahman already confessed it that those phone conversation were hacked illegally.

 

[kobiraaz]

there is a day in history of BD when they did'nt troll or insult pakistan ? WTF is relation of a bangali mullah with malala ?

The thread is a propaganda... nothing abusive was said.. Go back to pakistan section. peace.

 

[CaPtAiN_pLaNeT]

The thread is a propaganda... nothing abusive was said.. Go back to pakistan section. peace.

Even when the video is included you are still saying it is propaganda? How do you define the word beporda? Will you please care to explain how a 14 year old girl was trying to make other woman beporda by trying to bring them out of the house and was it justified for Taliban to shot her for that???

 

[Imran Khan]

Even when the video is included you are still saying it is propaganda? How do you define the word beporda? Will you please care to explain how a 14 year old girl was trying to make other woman beporda by trying to bring them out of the house and was it justified for Taliban to shot her for that???

my question is what he has to do with pakistan ? these bastard mullahs bash pakistani girl but ignore red light areas of dahaka CTK? only these three women left for these idiots ?