MAKE IN INDIA: L&T OUT GUNS GLOBAL RIVALS TO BAG RS 5,000-CRORE INDIAN ARMY DEAL

[Ind4Ever]

MAKE IN INDIA: L&T OUT GUNS GLOBAL RIVALS TO BAG RS 5,000-CRORE INDIAN ARMY DEAL
WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 30, 2015 BY INDIANDEFENSE NEWS

Russian Self-Propelled Howitzer "MSTA-S" on Trial in India
NEW DELHI: India is finally set to get its own mobile howitzers that will reverse the longheld Pakistani battlefield edge on artillery guns.
The guns Pakistan have were supplied by the US ostensibly for the 'war on terror'. In a deal that would also fit the 'Make in India' mandate, domestic manufacturer Larsen and ToubroBSE 0.47 % has emerged as the finalist for a $750-million (about Rs 5,000 crore) contract to supply 100 self-propelled artillery guns to the Indian Army.
The 155 mm artillery guns are specially designed for operation in the desert areas bordering Pakistan and have been a longstanding requirement of the Army, officials said. India's concerns over Pakistan acquiring an edge in conventional warfare escalated in 2009 when the US supplied it 115 of the modern M 109A5 cannons as a "reward" for its assistance in the war on the Afghanistan border.
The Army had then accelerated its plans to procure a similar system, but the process dragged on for many years, with the defence ministry finally taking a call on the winner last week. Sources told ET that the K9 VAJRA-T howitzer, pitched by L&T in partnership with Samsung, has been shortlisted for the contract.
Once signed — the final process could take another six months — the Vajra could be the first new artillery gun to be produced in India since the 1980s when the Bofors was acquired. A parallel effort to procure M777 ultra-light howitzers from the US is under progress.
The Vajra will be produced at L&T's Pune facility and could be considered for exports in the future, along with an expected followon order for more guns for the Army. The victory is especially sweet for L&T as it was competing in the global category, which was open to all arms vendors around the world.
The Vajra beat its Russian competitor on several technical grounds, including rate of fire, accuracy and mobility trials, officials said. L&T officials, however, refused to comment on the development.
India's artillery modernization plans have been stuck since the 1980s after the Bofors kickbacks scandal. Not a single new modern system has been purchased since, seriously limiting the Army's battlefield edge.
Self-propelled guns are vital for their "shoot and scoot" ability as well as a high flexibility of deployment in the battlefield.
While Pakistan managed to procure the American systems in 2009, India's plans for similar systems have been stuck since 1999, with several failed rounds at identifying a gun.
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Make in India: L&T Out Guns Global Rivals to Bag Rs 5,000-crore Indian Army Deal | Indian Defence News

 

[Ind4Ever]

155mm/ 52 Cal Tracked Self Propelled (SP) Gun
The K9 VAJRA-T 155mm/ 52 Cal. Tracked Self-Propelled Howitzer meets the requirements of 21st century warfare, which is based on the following missions: Deep fire support with its longer firing range; qualitative superiority to overcome a numerical inferiority with its higher rate of fire and accuracy and effective and reliable fire support in all kinds of circumstances with its higher mobility and protection.

The K9 VAJRA-T is a variant of K9 Thunder which is inarguably the world's best 155mm/52 Cal.SPH in terms of number of systems in active service. Currently, K9 Thunder is serving as one of the main conventional deterrent forces for a number of armies including the Korean Army. K9 Thunder has established its superiority through demonstrations and evaluation tests at various proving grounds in extreme weather conditions, jungles, barren deserts and severely cold areas. By demonstrating its ability to handle Indian as well as all NATO standard ammunitions, K9 VAJRA-T has proven its excellent conformability to any field artillery unit.

155mm/ 52 Cal Towed Gun System TRAJAN®
The 155 mm / 52 calibre Towed Gun System jointly developed by L&T and Nexter Systems, France for the Indian MoD is under User Evaluation by the Indian Army. L&T is responsible for development of the mobility system of the Gun, whereas Nexter provides the Ordnance System.

Our partnership is based on delivering value and effective solutions to the Indian Army. Apart from providing a proven Artillery Gun System, this consortium will open up new avenues in Indian and Global defence markets for both partners.

The South Korean K9 Thunder to strike Indian Subcontinent
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The K9 Thunder is a 155mm / 52 calibre self-propelled howitzer developed by Samsung Techwin for the Republic of Korea Armed Forces. The howitzer is designed to provide effective and deep fire support in all kinds of theatres. Built on high mobility platform, the K9 delivers a high rate of fire at long range.

The K9 Thunder development program began in 1989. The first prototype was rolled out and tested in 1996. The design phase was completed in 1998 and serial production began in 1999. It is one of the main contenders for the Land 17 Artillery Replacement Project of the Australian Army.

K9 self-propelled howitzer design
The K9 Thunder platform is made of all-welded steel armour protection material. The design incorporates a Modular Azimuth Position System (MAPS), an automatic fire-control system (AFCS), a powered gun elevation / depression and a turret traverse system. The hydro-pneumatic suspension system provides high-ground clearance and mobility across different terrains.





K9 Thunder orders and deliveries
The South Korean Government awarded a contract to Samsung Aerospace Industries (SSA) for the K9 Thunder in December 1998. The first batch of K9 were delivered to the Republic of Korea Army in 1999.

In late 2001, Turkish Land Forces Command (TLFC) signed a contract with Samsung TechWin for K9 Thunder. The Turkish variant was designated Firtina or T-155 K/M Obus. Turkey received its first batch of eight Firtina howitzers in 2004. A total of 150 units were delivered to the Turkish Army in December 2009.

K9 howitzer system
"The K9 Thunder platform is made of all-welded steel armour protection material."
The main weapon is the 155mm / 52 calibre gun. It has a burst rate of fire of three rounds per 15 seconds and a maximum rate of fire of six to eight rounds a minute for three minutes.

Sustained rate of fire is two to three rounds a minute for one hour. The K9 Thunder is designed to meet the up-to-date tactical concept on shoot and scoot.

The gun can fire a standard M107 high-explosive (HE) projectile for a maximum range of 18km.

Maximum range firing the HE rocket assisted projectile (RAP) with uni-charge of five zones, is 30km. It can also fire a K307 projectile with a modular-charge of six zones for a maximum range of over 40km.

Fire control
The gun's firing is controlled by onboard fire-control equipment. The information can be transmitted through a data digital radio link or voice communications. The automatic loading system places the projectiles onto the ammunition tray ready for fire. The K9 Thunder can open fire within 30 seconds at stand out position or within 60 seconds during movement.

Self-protection
The K9 Thunder's welded steel construction protects crew and on-board equipment against the 155mm shell fragments, 14.5mm armour piercing shells and anti-personnel mines. The air purification system and on-board crew gas masks are provided for NBC warfare.

K10 ammunition re-supply vehicle (ARV)
The K9 Thunder is supplemented by a K10 automatic ammunition re-supply vehicle (ARV) built on the K9 platform.

"Each K10 supports two K9 guns and can carry 104 rounds of ammunition."
The K10 is a fully tracked vehicle that follows the main artillery battery. The K10 ARV can automatically transfer 12 rounds per minute through a conveyor belt.

This avoids the exposure of crew to the combat environment. Each K10 supports two K9 guns and can carry 104 rounds of ammunition.

K9 engine
The K9 Thunder is powered by an MTU MT 881 Ka-500 8-cylinder water cooled diesel engine coupled to the Allison ATDX1100-5A3 transmission. The engine develops a power output of 1,000hp with a power-to-weight ratio of 21.6hp/t. The propulsion system provides a top speed of over 67km/h and a cruising range of 360km.

T-155 Firtina Turkish howitzer variant
T-155 Firtina is the Turkish variant of K9 Thunder. The major equipment including gun system, automatic ammunition feeding system and diesel engine were retained for the T-155.

The Turkish variant incorporates considerable changes in turret design, chassis, navigation system and electronic systems.

The first batch of eight T-155s were built in South Korea under a licence agreement with Samsung Techwin, while the remaining batch of over 300 units is being produced at the 1st Army Maintenance Center Command, Adapazari in Turkey.

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ROK Army K9,K55 Self Propelled Artillery Gunnery Exercise /제5포병여단 K9,K55 사격훈련

ROK ARMY VIII Corps K9 THUNDER

T-155 Fırtına (Storm) is the Turkish variant of the K9 Thunder 155mm self-propelled howitzer by Samsung Techwin.

Though essentially using the main systems of the K9 howitzer, including the South Korean designed 155/52 caliber gun system, majority of the chassis, automatic ammunition feeding mechanism, and the German designed MTU-881 KA 500 diesel engine, the T-155 has considerable differences in its turret design, parts of the chassis, the navigation system, and electronic systems (such as the radio and fire control system) which were developed in Turkey. Unlike the K9, T-155 Fırtına lacks commander's digital panoramic sight. Through the Inertial Navigation System produced by ASELSAN the howitzer is able to determine the coordinates of the targets at 17.5 meters deviation. Fırtına can open fire within 30 seconds.[1]

According to the licence agreement with Samsung Techwin, the first eight T-155s were built in South Korea, while the remaining batch of more than 300 units would be produced in Turkey.The total reported cost of purchase and technology transfer for the Turkish government was $1 billion.

T-155 Fırtına has a maximum firing range of 40 km, depending on the type of ammunition. It can reach a top speed of 66 km/h and has an operational range of 480 km.

The T-155 howitzers are built at the 1st Army Maintenance Center Command of the Turkish Army in Adapazarı. Production rate of the T-155 is 24 units per year. From 2001 to December 2009, more than 150 units have been delivered to the Turkish Army. A total of 350 T-155 Fırtına howitzers are planned to be produced.

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[Kao Boy]

T could be a small step to embark of self relying on "Make in India" weapons... India should now strive to develop and manufacture it's own variants as International sellers shift is changing drastically... India's favorite seller is shifting towards Pakistan... It will help us to send a message across that we now are self reliant ... however we cannot be self reliant for everything armory or artillery though...

 

[mpk1988]

 

[Argon Prime]

Lagey raho Modi Bhai.

 

[45'22']

What happened to Dhanush?

 

[Ronin]

Great news, made my day

 

[Ind4Ever]

What happened to Dhanush?

Already a done deal. They are on their way for induction already.

Dhanush as an artillery system has proved to be one of the best amongst its class. A 45 Calibre towed gun system capable of targeting at long ranges incorporating autonomous laying features and having one of the most sophisticated suites of electronic and computing systems in the world.

…the success of 155mm/ 42 Cal Dhanush under trial is of paramount importance for the futuristic ATAGS programme.

A leading Indian daily “The Times of India” quoted the defence minister, Mr Manohar Parrikar when he addressed the parliamentary consultative committee on defence on April 21, that the 155mm/45-calibre Dhanush howitzers had “successfully met all technical parameters” during the winter and summer trials at Sikkim and Pokhran. He also stated that Dhanush incorporates “many improved features” over the Army’s existing artillery guns

 

[Abingdonboy]

What happened to Dhanush?

An entirely separate system that has zero relevance in this context. The K9 is a mounted gun system (MGS) and a tracked one at that, the Dhanush is a towed artillery system. The IA is after both types.


I wonder if this helps L&T's chances with the other MGS (non-tracked) procurement that is ongoing where they are offering the CAESAR.

 

[Zarvan]

@Horus @fatman17 @kaonalpha and Is first post right about range and other features and @Ind4Ever The only funny thing is that even if the points and things told in article are true India should remember that Turkey builds exactly same Gun with different name. So answering India won't be much of an issue although I think the points in Article about ranger and other things are wrong.

 

[Ind4Ever]

@Horus @fatman17 @kaonalpha and Is first post right about range and other features and @Ind4Ever The only funny thing is that even if the points and things told in article are true India should remember that Turkey builds exactly same Gun with different name. So answering India won't be much of an issue although I think the points in Article about ranger and other things are wrong.

I don't get it. Are you saying Turkey will sell K9 to Pakistan

 

[Zarvan]

I don't get it. Are you saying Turkey will sell K9 to Pakistan

No what I am telling you T-155 of Turkey and K-9 of south korea are same thing.

 

[Ind4Ever]

No what I am telling you T-155 of Turkey and K-9 of south korea are same thing.

Yes of course i already posted T155 specs too

 

[topgun047]

L & T can also export it to friendly countries like Afghanistan,Vietnam and Iran.

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

No what I am telling you T-155 of Turkey and K-9 of south korea are same thing.

And how does that 'answer' india?You think turkey will gift its newly bought guns to pak so it can counter this purchase from IA?