Make in India' for 90 medium combat jets

[wowler]

OO bhai google it and research it ISI's capability Delhi bhi lyen gey jaldi app fiqr na karo bohat jald.


Mien kutey k bonkany ka aor wowler ka reply nahien kerta feels no difference

Matlab hym itne mashoor hai pakistan me.
Ek baaf bataiye kabhi aapko ye bataya gaya hai ki kabhi apne se bade aadmi ki zindagi me ungli nahi kiya karte kkyuki kya pata bada aadmi kabkab wo ungli kaat de.
Mere khyaal se hum e aapki ungli to nahi lekin tumhare sharir mo aadha jarur kaata hai ek baar.
Ab bhi agar kuch bacha hai to shauk se aa jaao jo lal kille me hmara tiranga lahrata hai waha ek tumhara sharir jarur lat kayenge.

 

[al_asad_al_mulk]

janab you are mistaken LCA at best will be 4.5+ gen "light multi role" fighter jet whose main responsibilty is of point defence/homeland security while it will be big boys(twin engined & medium and heavy jets) of the IAF who will your suppa duppa JF17s and F16s will have to fight pehle unko sulat lo LCA se to tab do do haath ker paage jab wo apko jinda rehne denge


janab sirf khwwab dekhne se khwaab poorre nahi hote uske liye kaam bhi kerna prta hai

ab rahi baat apke purkho ki to tub hum apas me batte hue the per ub hum sab hindustani ek hain .... koshish kerke dekh lo hum tumhe shikayat ka koi mauka nahi denge ki tumhe kamzor dushman se larna parra

Dushman kamzoor ho tu janab hum hath bhi nahien lagatay. Lets see end of discussion here. But caye tu zaroor piyoun gha app se Delhi mien. wesy mien app wali drinks ka bhi shukeen houn apki officer choice royal stag chalo woh bhi mnagwa leena ...

 

[I M Sikander]

Please anyone kindly kill me now.

Dont take it seriously dude.
Chill karo. We are now habitual of such paper plans of iaf and defence ministry.

 

[I M Sikander]

30 + 90 Rafales.
OR
90 F18 Super Hornet

The deal is not yet been signed for the 36 and here u are taking about the 90 more.

 

[I M Sikander]

Whatever happened to the FGFA project??

It's a chaotic situation beyond comprehension! Or is it a strategy to confuse the enemy?

Enemy definitely not confused but iaf definately is confused how to replenish the depleting fighter squadrons.

 

[PARIKRAMA]

i am crossposting it from another blog.. Prasun Sengupta was queried by a blogger abt this whole new MMRCA 2.0 and this is his reply..


Prasun, which of the following is the most likely reason for the new RFP for building 90 MMRCA category fighter jets in India ?

(1) That the price negotiations for the off-the-shelf purchase of 36 Rafales have run into rough weather and doomed to fail. This new RFP is a safety-net/fall-back option, should the 36 Rafales not pan out.
(2) This RFP is a scare-crow erected by the MoD to put pressure on the French consortium to submit to Indian demands on a G-2-G deal that involves purchasing 36 off-the-shelf and building an additional number in India in partnership with private Indian industry player/players.
(3) The MoD and the IAF have truly given up on the Rafales and are seriously looking at doing a new bid to facilitate procuring an alternative to the former such as the Eurofighter Typhoon or the Saab Jas-39 E/F aircraft in lieu of the Rafale.

It's rather confusing to say the least. Would appreciate your thoughts on the same please.
August 3, 2015 at 2:21 AM

Prasun K. Sengupta said...
It is none of the above. Trouble is the ‘desi’ journalists are an inept lot & can’t give any perspective. The RFP is for the selection of an Indian vendor or a consortium of vendors that will be selected for teaming up with Dassault Aviation for licence-building the 90 Rafales after the first 36 have already arrived from France.
August 3, 2015 at 5:08 AM


@Abingdonboy @SpArK @MilSpec

So if we do go by Prasun's words, the RFP is for Rafale MII campaign.. and if 30 Bn cost is there then its for the TOT+initial infrastructure+training+lifetime cost+weapons package perhaps...

Interestingly, wish if we could really understand what were the price of such detailed components In MMRCA which was scrapped versus this new RFP..
Whats the difference and whats the justification of cost (i am sure time value of money principal states that MMRCA original cost even with TOT would be less versus this new one) and time lost..
May be also understand whats really the TOT which all these tenders are really talking about..i mean what really comprises of the TOT (fineprint of course)..

 

[Jamwal's]

Khawab dekhney sey poray hotey hien janab aor Hindustan ko hamray purkhoun nay akr fatah kiya phir hazaar saal hakomat ki chalo goray aagaye per hum ney apka adha mulk cheen liya. 1000 saal ki ghulaami tu yaad ho ghi na birradar kuch aor intizaar hi sahi Delhi bhi leyn gey Kashmir bhi aor jo dil chahey gha. App se tu personally miloun gha. QASAM se khushbo lagha k..

what

Tumhare purkhe since when Pakistanis become descendant of Mughals and central Asians and it was Indians who ruled present day Pakistan started from Mauryans even Mughals appointment Indians as governors of Kabul and Lahore.

You are recent convert don't equate urself with central Asians ...mongols and turks.

These are Pakistanis do u think they can rule us dogras (I am related to Dogra clan rulers of your Kashmir )

 

[al_asad_al_mulk]

what

Tumhare purkhe since when Pakistanis become descendant of Mughals and central Asians and it was Indians who ruled present day Pakistan started from Mauryans even Mughals appointment Indians as governors of Kabul and Lahore.

You are recent convert don't equate urself with central Asians ...mongols and turks.

If you see me you will change your mind i am tall fair skin brown eye not like you Dravidian i know the names and occupation of my grand father and their grand fathers slavery is in your DNA

 

[Jamwal's]

If you see me you will change your mind i am tall fair skin brown eye not like you Dravidian i know the names and occupation of my grand father and their grand fathers slavery is in your DNA

Chup bey .. Every Pakistani think of himself as central Asian and Arab while forgetting the history of slavery of thousands of years ... Beta read standard history books not some madarsa crap ... Your country was enslaved by ..

Persians
Mauryans
Kushans
Hun's
Indo Greeks
Turks
Mongols
Arabs
Sikhs
And even Marathas for some time

And I am a Jamwal my Dogra clan ruled you sorry Arse for more than 100 years ask any Azad kashmiri about Dogra rule.

 

[Taygibay]

At 30 M $ for the whole program, they will be darn light fighters indeed :

but at 1000 cr each?, who knows :

If it's the latter, the Indian economy will be highly stressed …
but then again so would China and Pakistan.

Good day all, Tay.

 

[MAJESTICAL]

janab you are mistaken LCA at best will be 4.5+ gen "light multi role" fighter jet whose main responsibilty is of point defence/homeland security while it will be big boys(twin engined & medium and heavy jets) of the IAF who will your suppa duppa JF17s and F16s will have to fight pehle unko sulat lo LCA se to tab do do haath ker paage jab wo apko jinda rehne denge


janab sirf khwwab dekhne se khwaab poorre nahi hote uske liye kaam bhi kerna prta hai

ab rahi baat apke purkho ki to tub hum apas me batte hue the per ub hum sab hindustani ek hain .... koshish kerke dekh lo hum tumhe shikayat ka koi mauka nahi denge ki tumhe kamzor dushman se larna parra

First of all LCA is moving with a snail's speed and I dont know when will it get to 4.5 gent fighter and I really wish I can see it as an Advanced Indian Aircraft(Believe it or not its upto you) and Yes we will have to face your advanced and more in numbers Jets but its not like that our F-16s and Jf-17 dosent stand a chance if front of your fighters.

And we arent just dreaming Sir...We are working on it with a very fast pace and we can see our bright futures if all goes well...

I respect Indians and its Armed Forces.You should respect us too.Im not willing to see your unity through war...Peace would be better and for Pakistan we are living in unity and damn proud of it...

~Peace...

 

[GURU DUTT]

First of all LCA is moving with a snail's speed and I dont know when will it get to 4.5 gent fighter and I really wish I can see as an Advance Aircraft of Indian(Believe it or not its upto you) and Yes we will have to face your advanced and more in numbers Jets but its not like that our F-16s and Jf-17 dosent stand a chance if front of your fighters.

And we arent just dreaming Sir...We are working on it with a very fast pace and we can see our bright futures if all goes well...

I respect Indians and its Armed Forces.You should respect us too.Im not willing to see your unity through war...Peace would be better and for Pakistan we are living in unity and damn proud of it...

~Peace...

LCA "was" indeed moving at snails pace when under UPA rule but your wrong about that now but anyway we still are working on making it even better and will make sure we get what we want in the need dont worry about owr time and money "wasted on it" and your nations "expert advice" realli dont matter for us ... specially with regards to owr defnce needs... thanks but no thanks

now about peace it can never happen as pakistanies will never leave there hate and revnge obsession with india and india will never want or take peace where its not in indian interests so lets not waste time on that .... we are happy with status quo

 

[SpArK]

At 30 M $ for the whole program, they will be darn light fighters indeed :


If it's the latter, the Indian economy will be highly stressed …
but then again so would China and Pakistan.

Good day all, Tay.

Hey Tay its Nay 30 Mil , the figure is Way bigger than that.

Details May be comin in few Day and is requested to Lay low until a Say from Mod ,cause we will Pay a lot on this.

There is still a Ray of hope and wont keep you out in the Bay

Tay-ke care

 

[Taygibay]

Very elegant there ' @SpArK but I think you missed bolding -Day-.
[ you could go for _ a Day or two _ to avoid the plural … ]

Thanks for that nice wink, mate.
Great day to you and yours,Tay.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Prasun Sengupta's take on the whole matter:
Trouble is the ‘desi’ journalists are an inept lot & can’t give any perspective. The RFP is for the selection of an Indian vendor or a consortium of vendors that will be selected for teaming up with Dassault Aviation for licence-building the 90 Rafales after the first 36 have already arrived from France
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3545138702780178046&postID=4871788731999987404&page=1&token=1438606241407

By FAR the most compelling and logical analysis of the current situation and to be fair to him he called this (Dassualt floating RFI/RFPs to Indian vendors to make Rafales in India) a few months ago.