Major reason for sufferings of Indian Muslims

[PakistaniAtBahrain]

The major reason for the suffering of Indian Muslims is exactly that. They are Indians. You think India could do this if they were -

• Muslim Turks?
• Muslim Afghans?

when indian muslims become the majority in one or two more states (like West Bengal) then you will see Indian muslims start resisting.

 

[ayodhyapati]

@PAKISTANFOREVER seems to have only one mode : stubborn and consistent hate. I have suggested to him that for him to become calmer he needs to change his profile-pic of some angry-looking Turkish or French soldier.

He is 41 yet the age has not mellowed him.

he is one of the jokers like zaid hamid who will do ghazwa hind very soon with help of his no one khurasan army .

 

[Hiptullha]

muslims lynched him . why should i go search for reason ?

Because the intent matters? If they killed him over beef, then I'm sure you'd immediately soil your dhoti and come here to yell about how evil Muslims lynched a viraat boy for refusing to touch Gau mata.

 

[ayodhyapati]

Because the intent matters? If they killed him over beef, then I'm sure you'd immediately soil your dhoti and come here to yell about how evil Muslims lynched a viraat boy for refusing to touch Gau mata.

muslims kill hindus in hindu india that is all . terrorists kill all in suicide blast go stop them .

 

[jamahir]

he is one of the jokers like zaid hamid who will do ghazwa hind very soon with help of his no one khurasan army .

Well, he is no mullah type, no joker, just a bit too hypernationalist.

 

[Meengla]

when indian muslims become the majority in one or two more states (like West Bengal) then you will see Indian muslims start resisting.

Yes. And that's why I have been repeatedly saying in this forum that if this wave of Hindutva is going to be permanently deep and aggressive then Indian Muslims should start organizing and concentrating in the border states of India or along coastal states of India. Migration is painful and that's the number one reason most Indian Muslims didn't migrate to Pakistan between 1947-early 50s. And yet millions did migrate despite the very believable theories that the new state of Pakistan would not survive for long.

Anyway, concentrate and organize IF it is going to come to that. That's the only way to survive. I will give you an example: My relatives in India, obviously they are Muslims, fought off the Hindu mobs during the 2002 pogroms in India. The relatives were able to do so because they were concentrated in certain areas of a city. Otherwise, their fate would be the same as that of thousands of other Muslims. Don't want to go into the details but the images and the accounts of the 2002 pogroms in India are truly horrific!!!

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

he is one of the jokers like zaid hamid who will do ghazwa hind very soon with help of his no one khurasan army .

No thank you...........trying to join india with us??????............just the thought makes me want to .........................Apart from neutralising the indian military threat I want NOTHING to do with the world's most ugliest and physically repulsive race..........

 

[ayodhyapati]

No thank you...........trying to join india with us??????............just the thought makes me want to .........................Apart from neutralising the indian military threat I want NOTHING to do with the world's most ugliest and physically repulsive race..........

your future .

 

[hussain0216]

Yes. And that's why I have been repeatedly saying in this forum that if this wave of Hindutva is going to be permanently deep and aggressive then Indian Muslims should start organizing and concentrating in the border states of India or along coastal states of India. Migration is painful and that's the number one reason most Indian Muslims didn't migrate to Pakistan between 1947-early 50s. And yet millions did migrate despite the very believable theories that the new state of Pakistan would not survive for long.

Anyway, concentrate and organize IF it is going to come to that. That's the only way to survive. I will give you an example: My relatives in India, obviously they are Muslims, fought off the Hindu mobs during the 2002 pogroms in India. The relatives were able to do so because they were concentrated in certain areas of a city. Otherwise, their fate would be the same as that of thousands of other Muslims. Don't want to go into the details but the images and the accounts of the 2002 pogroms in India are truly horrific!!!

If you have a majority in any area you can form a defence

Indian Muslims must move from any areas where they have small numbers and form areas of majority

Those areas can be defended and ultimately form the basis of a future muslim states



Indian Muslims big problem isn't the hindutva, it's the complicity of Indian police and state in helping hindutva or clearing the way for hindutva extremist mobs

 

[waz]

Yes. And that's why I have been repeatedly saying in this forum that if this wave of Hindutva is going to be permanently deep and aggressive then Indian Muslims should start organizing and concentrating in the border states of India or along coastal states of India. Migration is painful and that's the number one reason most Indian Muslims didn't migrate to Pakistan between 1947-early 50s. And yet millions did migrate despite the very believable theories that the new state of Pakistan would not survive for long.

Anyway, concentrate and organize IF it is going to come to that. That's the only way to survive. I will give you an example: My relatives in India, obviously they are Muslims, fought off the Hindu mobs during the 2002 pogroms in India. The relatives were able to do so because they were concentrated in certain areas of a city. Otherwise, their fate would be the same as that of thousands of other Muslims. Don't want to go into the details but the images and the accounts of the 2002 pogroms in India are truly horrific!!!

Solid ideas, the Muslims must start to think strategically in India.
You are spot on about how in the parts of the Gujarat where the Muslims had concentrated strength such as Juhapura they were not able to only fight off the Sanghi filth but also go on the offensive.
If you look at Naroda Patia and Gulberg society where the worst massacres of Muslims happened, they were Muslim localities surrounded by huge Hindu majority districts which lent massive support to the RSS and other extreme right wing outfits.

 

[ayodhyapati]

If you have a majority in any area you can form a defence

Indian Muslims must move from any areas where they have small numbers and form areas of majority

Those areas can be defended and ultimately form the basis of a future muslim states



Indian Muslims big problem isn't the hindutva, it's the complicity of Indian police and state in helping hindutva or clearing the way for hindutva extremist mobs

typical ghetto mentality ,
it is not going to save muslims by living in muslims ghettos forming fortifications .muslims can survive only my assimilation in the society leaving behind jihadi mentality .

Solid ideas, the Muslims must start to think strategically in India.
You are spot on about how in the parts of the Gujarat where the Muslims had concentrated strength such as Juhapura they were not able to only fight off the Sanghi filth but also go on the offensive.
If you look at Naroda Patia and Gulberg society where the worst massacres of Muslims happened, they were Muslim localities surrounded by huge Hindu majority districts which lent massive support to the RSS and other extreme right wing outfits.

muslims should stop inviting trouble by burning bogies of hindus , stopping highways for CAA , This leads to serious trouble .only way is to leave behind extremism and jihad against kafirs .

Because the intent matters? If they killed him over beef, then I'm sure you'd immediately soil your dhoti and come here to yell about how evil Muslims lynched a viraat boy for refusing to touch Gau mata.

we will deal with extremism and terrorists in the same way as america deals .

 

[PakistaniAtBahrain]

typical ghetto mentality ,

many hindus dont sell their property to muslims, and pressure their locality/government not to sell a single house in their neighbourhood to muslims. so naturally muslims will only buy houses in areas where muslims are already living.

muslims can survive only my assimilation in the society leaving behind jihadi mentality .

for hindus, the fact that muslims even having a separate identity itself is called a jihadi mentality. muslims arent hindus, never were, never will be. in about 200 years from now, India will become India-istan based on current projections. then lets see what indian hindus and your big mouth has to say then.

 

[Meengla]

Solid ideas, the Muslims must start to think strategically in India.
You are spot on about how in the parts of the Gujarat where the Muslims had concentrated strength such as Juhapura they were not able to only fight off the Sanghi filth but also go on the offensive.
If you look at Naroda Patia and Gulberg society where the worst massacres of Muslims happened, they were Muslim localities surrounded by huge Hindu majority districts which lent massive support to the RSS and other extreme right wing outfits.

One of the most horrific accounts from the 2002 pogroms in India was that of a Congress party Muslim member of the Indian Parliament. He was a prominent figure, of course, and he called for help from the authorities when the mob was approaching his home. I don't remember the details now, they can be looked up, but he faced a brutal death and no doubt because the state machinery in India was complicit. I'd hang my head in shame if something like that happened in Pakistan!! But no such remorse in India.

Speaking of the 2002 pogroms in India, I certainly don't believe that Muslims in India had the nerve to burn down a train full of Hindus with or without provocation. The State of Gujarat in India in 2002 was ruled by an extreme wing of Hindutva under Mr. Modi. Barely a decade ago, the Babri Masjid was demolished and in the resultant pogroms, thousand of Muslims were killed and most of the killers and the head honchos still walk free in India. And so the Muslims in India had no will or the nerve to do the Godhra train massacre of the Hindus in 2002.

Having said all this, I will say something which will not please the Pakistanis here: The fact that Indian Muslims had to openly support Pakistan for several decades in the post-Partition Indian history played a major role in what is afflicting the Indian Muslims.

 

[hussain0216]

typical ghetto mentality ,
it is not going to save muslims by living in muslims ghettos forming fortifications .muslims can survive only my assimilation in the society leaving behind jihadi mentality .

You can't assimilate into a hindutva extremist communal state, it's just not possible

JINNAH was right about India and Hindus and Indian Muslims can't trust them on any scale, the consequence of 1000 years of being dominated has left the Hindu mind burdened with ego problems that Jinnah foresaw


Rather then a equal united India, they want a Hindu state with a caste system where they are top and the only acceptable muslim is one that becomes slave


You are right ghettos are never good

But Indian Muslims are OVER 200 MILLION STRONG so they won't have ghettos they will have extended areas of Muslim majority

Areas where they can build their populations away from hindutva

Where they can build fortifications

Build their own local economies,lawyers, doctors, local merchants, all Muslims



Indian Muslims are vulnerable because they get outnumbered and the police and state help hindutva extremist mobs

The only solution for Indian Muslims is muslim majority areas

And if as Jinnah predicted the shit hits the fan they can be the basis of future states for Indian Muslims

 

[Farhan Bohra]

Solid ideas, the Muslims must start to think strategically in India.
You are spot on about how in the parts of the Gujarat where the Muslims had concentrated strength such as Juhapura they were not able to only fight off the Sanghi filth but also go on the offensive.
If you look at Naroda Patia and Gulberg society where the worst massacres of Muslims happened, they were Muslim localities surrounded by huge Hindu majority districts which lent massive support to the RSS and other extreme right wing outfits.

Another thread on victimhood, Facepalm.
and the mods with casual racism. I mean what society Pakistanis producing that they so much indoctrinated which allow them to do such casual racism. And society not even voice against it.

India will definitely survive, there is a lot of racism happen in India too, but atleast people have freedom & power to voice against it. but the society these guys producing, only God can save them.