Major reason for sufferings of Indian Muslims

[Aslan]

Then why are Pakistani hindus coming back to Pakistan after having been disappointed with india............ :

Pakistani Hindus migrating to India for new life often return home disappointed

KARACHI: Last year, Nanak Ram, a Hindu, left his home in Mirpur Mathelo in southern Pakistan with the intention never to return. Ram is one of what officials have estimated are hundreds of Pakistani Hindus who have recently migrated to India to be benefit from a citizenship law that Prime...

www.google.co.uk

I have already seen that article before, and yet I also dont deny the fact that indians economy is doing better, and as I said our issues are due to alot of circumstances, but I am was just trying to make a point to him that no matter what no one has a right to bash Pakistan.

For all shits and giggles I wouldnt care two bits if india tomorrow would disappear off the face of the earth.

 

[Mugen]

We moved to UK for better jobs prospects but the Indians are the same. There are more
Indians in the UK than Pakistani's.

So, we are we competing with a country like India which we pretend is so much worse than us?

 

[Chhatrapati]

200 million Muslims

- Few things you deliberately missed out. The literacy rate among Indian Muslims is 57% among Christians it is 74%, Hindus & Sikhs it is 64% & 67%. The GAR ratio of Muslim students is less than even Dalits and other scheduled castes.

- Higher education enrollment of Muslim is also one of the lowest in India, that is lower than Dalits (SCs) even Scheduled Tribals (ST)

-In short Indian Muslim educational attainment is one of the worst in the country, that's despite they having special reservation including with OBCs.

Nobody is stopping Muslims from going to school or completing their education, they have equal opportunities or even more considering special scholarships. These issues are Socio-economical rather than state actions.

All these will reflect in government jobs as well.

Not a single Muslim in RAW

That's debatable given you don't know who the employees in R&AW are, and they operate in Islamic nations like Pak, BD, Afg, Maldives, etc.. so I'm not too sure of that.

 

[Mugen]

Oh so you guys were MQM and when your daddy altar got beaten you had to run?

Yes, you got me! Because otherwise Pakistan is a land of all things nice.

You must be the reason for Pakistans national IQ to be stuck at 86.

 

[hussain0216]

Yes, you got me! Because otherwise Pakistan is a land of all things nice.

You must be the reason for Pakistans national IQ to be stuck at 86.

MQM should have been more Pakistani and less Indian Muslim and you wouldn't have faced so many problems

Ask the Jews, running around the world without a home isnt a great experience

Nobody is stopping Muslims from going to school or completing their education, they have equal opportunities or even more considering special scholarships. These issues are Socio-economical rather than state actions.

That's exactly what's happening

Indian Muslims are under attack, stopped from opportunities and the state is trying to destroy them little by little one law at a time

 

[Mugen]

MQM should have been more Pakistani and less Indian Muslim and you wouldn't have faced so many problems

Ask the Jews, running around the world without a home isnt a great experience

UK and Pakistan are both my homes and regardless of what you say that will not change. However, I am not blind to the many problems that my country is facing, instead of burying my head in the sand, I will admit them because it is only after that we can start the process of reconciliation.

india has the highest number of severely malnourished and extremely poverty stricken people in the world. In fact it contains 40% of the ENTIRE earth's share. Everyday, over 600 million indians defecate in the open. india is also the biggest recipient of american aid:

53% of Indian households defecate in open, says World Bank

With over 600 million people in India or 53% of Indian households defecating in the open, absence of toilet or latrine is one of the important contributors to malnutrition, a World Bank report has said.

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economy-policy/india-houses-24-of-world-s-malnourished-30-of-stunted-children-under-5-118121000073_1.html

Half of the world’s poor live in just 5 countries

Of the world’s 736 million extreme poor in 2015, 368 million—half of the total—lived in just 5 countries. The 5 countries with the highest number of extreme poor are (in descending order): India, Nigeria, Democratic Republic of Congo, Ethiopia, and Bangladesh.

blogs.worldbank.org

India has one third of world's poorest, says World Bank

One in three of the world's poorest people are living in India, the world's second-fastest growing economy, according to a new study by the World Bank.

www.telegraph.co.uk

India accused of poverty 'smokescreen'

India has been accused of creating a "smokescreen" to conceal the true scale of poverty in the country after the government claimed to have lifted more than 50 million people above the threshold in the last five years.

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India top recipient of US economic aid - Times of India

US News: India has been identified as the largest recipient of U.S economic assistance over a 66-year period in inflation-adjusted dollars although Washington'

m.timesofindia.com

Your beloved indians have an IQ of 82:

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I will admit, Indians are shit, but it pains me that we are comparable to them. We got our own country to compete with them in how shit the two of us will be, or was it to be better?

 

[Suriya]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1359037669150347264

Modi giving a crying farewell to Congress MP Ghulam Nabi Azad.
Btw Ghulam Nabi Azad is from Kashmir and is ex-CM of J&K state.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1359016232104591360

 

[PakistaniAtBahrain]

Pakistan never proved itself worthy of moving in. I mean, Indian Muslims would have migrated to Pakistan if Pakistan was worthy. The Muslims of India who moved to Pakistan gave their best to Pakistan, and here we stand( bhayiay, pan khor, makkar, muhajar, or pta nahi kia kia). So basically, the ones who didn't move, were never thought Pakistan to be better then india. And that's the very reason why Pakistani Hindus are running towards India. Many of my Hindu friends have already set their businesses set in India. India anyway have more opportunities. And I as a Pakistani can testify it. In many aspects, Pakistan is in zero to 10000 ratio with India. Indian Muslims are reaching world top organizations, where our Pakistani professionals are reaching? Some managed to reach, and that too after studying in foreign universities. Pakistan ka passport daikh ker adhay ziada log bhag jaty hain.
Aagay ankhain Band rakhni hain tu merzi aapki.

there is some truth in what you said, but this is not the full picture. i am a descendant of muhajirs too. my dad's side and my mum's are all muhajir, all from Bihar. while most of my mum's side moved to Pakistan eventually, and some later moved on to USA/Canada/UK/GCC, a lot of my dad's side still live in India. they were too poor to leave whatever little they had in 1947, on top of that there was the very real threat of being killed while migrating as we saw, especially in Punjab 1947. as time passed many of them just stayed there in their little town where their ancestors have lived for centuries. but they kept sending as many as they could to Pakistan. those that stayed behind planned to earn enough money to financially support the ones they could send, which they did. many hoped that as time passed there would be peace between Pakistan and India and then gradually the migration of those left behind would become easier. that they could sell their land in India and use it to make a new life in Pakistan. but all this isnt easy, and its all easier said than done. another reason why many potential muhajirs stayed behind is because of the racism against muhajirs and the work the political parties did in making them feel like we were invaders. despite all that we never supported MQM, and i am glad its not as strong as it used to be. MQM did a lot in giving muhajirs a bad reputation.

 

[PakistaniAtBahrain]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1359037669150347264

VS




Reality

1. 200 million Muslims are just 4.9% of 88 lakh state and central govt employees

2. Not a single Muslim among 303 MP's of BJP

3. Muslims are only 1% in armed forces ( Not a single Muslim in RAW)

4. In faculties of different universities, Muslims are only 3.7%

5. In foreign office, Muslims are just 3.2%

6. From 1999 to 2013, Muslim representation in police has remained b/w 3 to 4%

7. The postal department had 2.7 lakh employees of whom 5% are Muslim, most in Group D

8. There is no Muslim minister in 15 of 28 states. In the remaining 13 states, there's only one Muslim minister





( Indian Muslims have tried to prove their loyalty every day to Hindu masters yet they are butchered on streets like vegetables, they are raped at will, lynched for fun but they think they are better than Pakistani Muslims )

As Quaid said " Indian Muslims will spend rest of their loves proving loyalty to Hindus"



At the same time I feel extremely offended when people on this forum talk about accommodating the Indian muslims in Pakistan. No Thankyou!!

the shameful thing is despite all these stats, OIC allowed India to join the OIC as a guest of honour despite Pakistan's protests, and the Indian representative was a kafir AT the Organisation of ISLAMIC cooperation.

 

[W.11]

I would compare the Muslim Kongress MP to muslim BJP MPs, one is milder hindutva, another is as we say ''more loyal than the king'', you can compare this guy to BJP's Mukhtar Naqvi and ram worshipping fake BJP muslims.

Muslim league at appropriate time realized what was happening and completely separated from hindutva slavery in Kongress party, formed Pakistan but never tolerated the indignity of slaving hindutvas post partition.

regards

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1359037669150347264

VS




Reality

1. 200 million Muslims are just 4.9% of 88 lakh state and central govt employees

2. Not a single Muslim among 303 MP's of BJP

3. Muslims are only 1% in armed forces ( Not a single Muslim in RAW)

4. In faculties of different universities, Muslims are only 3.7%

5. In foreign office, Muslims are just 3.2%

6. From 1999 to 2013, Muslim representation in police has remained b/w 3 to 4%

7. The postal department had 2.7 lakh employees of whom 5% are Muslim, most in Group D

8. There is no Muslim minister in 15 of 28 states. In the remaining 13 states, there's only one Muslim minister





( Indian Muslims have tried to prove their loyalty every day to Hindu masters yet they are butchered on streets like vegetables, they are raped at will, lynched for fun but they think they are better than Pakistani Muslims )

As Quaid said " Indian Muslims will spend rest of their loves proving loyalty to Hindus"



At the same time I feel extremely offended when people on this forum talk about accommodating the Indian muslims in Pakistan. No Thankyou!!

These guys are NOT even REAL Muslims. They are kuffar indian hindu worshippers........

 

[W.11]

Read godhra incident where local muslims were not only falsely blamed for train burning but also declared as carrying out orders from Pakistan.

regards

 

[fitpOsitive]

there is some truth in what you said, but this is not the full picture. i am a descendant of muhajirs too. my dad's side and my mum's are all muhajir, all from Bihar. while most of my mum's side moved to Pakistan eventually, and some later moved on to USA/Canada/UK/GCC, a lot of my dad's side still live in India. they were too poor to leave whatever little they had in 1947, on top of that there was the very real threat of being killed while migrating as we saw, especially in Punjab 1947. as time passed many of them just stayed there in their little town where their ancestors have lived for centuries. but they kept sending as many as they could to Pakistan. those that stayed behind planned to earn enough money to financially support the one or two they could send, which they did. many hoped that as time passed there would be peace between Pakistan and India and then gradually the migration of those left behind would become easier. that they could sell their land in India and use it to make a new life in Pakistan. but all this isnt easy, and its all easier said than done. another reason why many potential muhajirs stayed behind is because of the racism against muhajirs and the work the political parties did in making them feel like we were invaders. despite all that we never supported MQM, and i am glad its not as strong as it used to be. MQM did a lot in giving muhajirs a bad reputation.

My whole family also never supported mqm.

 

[newb3e]

My whole family also never supported mqm.

indians and Pakistanis are mentally fked up! in india if you criticize Modi you are labelled Pakistani in Pakistan you criticize fauji and politicians you become mqm and indian!

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

indians and Pakistanis are mentally fked up! in india if you criticize Modi you are labelled Pakistani in Pakistan you criticize fauji and politicians you become mqm and indian!

Nobody in Pakistan gives a damn about the politicians.