Major proportion of Arjun tanks in service not operational

[sathya]

If Arjun tank was a success then it would have been a suprise. Who is responsible for the tank manufacturing cvrde avadi, chennai? Check whether the wheels are fine before using in the field...

Almost most of the mechanical engineer who done internship in avadi tank factory know how cvrde avadi functions. Come to office at the time u like, simply took the bearing for test and broke, waste huge amount of oil for nothing. Maintain affair with ladies working in contract, inside the office. And you expect the tank to be world class, designed by these low life creatures? Check how many wheels arjun tank has

Arjun mk2 being manufactured by avadi tank factory, then it will also be a great success like arjun mk1.

i guess you were hurt somewhere..

 

[Dazzler]

If Arjun tank was a success then it would have been a suprise. Who is responsible for the tank manufacturing cvrde avadi, chennai? Check whether the wheels are fine before using in the field...

Almost most of the mechanical engineer who done internship in avadi tank factory know how cvrde avadi functions. Come to office at the time u like, simply took the bearing for test and broke, waste huge amount of oil for nothing. Maintain affair with ladies working in contract, inside the office. And you expect the tank to be world class, designed by these low life creatures? Check how many wheels arjun tank has

Arjun mk2 being manufactured by avadi tank factory, then it will also be a great success like arjun mk1.

Just a little caveat, neither mk.1 nor mk.2 has yet wonbur army's confidence. The number are a huge giveaway.

 

[fast]

Su-30 MKI also made 100% domestically including the engines.


sorry we are not Chinese which hide things , one time you tanks also cannot fire on moving targets as shown in videos and then also you keep on brag about your tanks superiortiy

Should i dig your Chinese tank video in 2005 ?

Arjun -1 is also better one already came up. Mark -II.

Well, at least the chinese tank was running and firing, not sitting in the junk yard rotting like ar-junk. Likewise I'm sure Arjunk-2 will rot better and faster when it comes out if ever.

 

[Alfa-Fighter]

Well, at least the chinese tank was running and firing, not sitting in the junk yard rotting like ar-junk. Likewise I'm sure Arjunk-2 will rot better and faster when it comes out if ever.

lol, when Gun moving up and down , firing for firing sake? fire at target in north and Shell goes to east..... what is the use of that firing? its better not to fore or only kills your own forces...

 

[Indus Falcon]

lol, when Gun moving up and down , firing for firing sake? fire at target in north and Shell goes to east..... what is the use of that firing? its better not to fore or only kills your own forces...

And your evidence is.............? Your ranting?

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Pakistan should also have Public-Private joint development of defense manufacturing. Unlike India, Pakistan does not have private sector with enough capital and experience to start large scale defense manufacturing.

Trust me industrialists like Mian Mansha,Tareen,Sitara group etx have $$ to venture into defence but again we have red tape issues.. and corruption !


Do you remember Yasoob 8x8 truck ? (Hundreds are still in service).. The army was so impressed and satisfied with it performance that they were planning to produce a bigger version of it .. But kickbacks and corruption killed the project! Same case with CJ jeeps that were once produced by Naya Daur company (with Pakistani engines - produce by BECO (BECO now is screwed producing parts for tractors b shit).).

There are Alot of examples like tht .. Also there is no govt support for private defence industries like ID,Lyra,Pak armouring works,DSA etx etc ..

P.S: Abother interesting fact the founder of Integrated Dynamics (UAV producers) is a former employ of SUPARCO ..

lol, when Gun moving up and down , firing for firing sake? fire at target in north and Shell goes to east..... what is the use of that firing? its better not to fore or only kills your own forces...

Hahah your butthurt is amazing .. Let it flow !

Also why don't you shut up an Google or browse videos of AK firing during live ex?

There is a good reason it has been exported to KSA (150 of them).

And it's watered down export models to Myanmar,Bangladesh,Peru and Morroco?

P.S: It's not our tanks that don't work or blow up their own turrets n barrels .

Just a little caveat, neither mk.1 nor mk.2 has yet wonbur army's confidence. The number are a huge giveaway.

118-124 is still a big number (even if most of them aren't operational due to shortage of Foriegn sorted parts)..

 

[Alfa-Fighter]

And your evidence is.............? Your ranting?

2007 video says a lot.... when you claiming it best tank in the world.

Trust me industrialists like Mian Mansha,Tareen,Sitara group etx have $$ to venture into defence but again we have red tape issues.. and corruption !


Do you remember Yasoob 8x8 truck ? (Hundreds are still in service).. The army was so impressed and satisfied with it performance that they were planning to produce a bigger version of it .. But kickbacks and corruption killed the project! Same case with CJ jeeps that were once produced by Naya Daur company (with Pakistani engines - produce by BECO (BECO now is screwed producing parts for tractors b shit).).

There are Alot of examples like tht .. Also there is no govt support for private defence industries like ID,Lyra,Pak armouring works,DSA etx etc ..

P.S: Abother interesting fact the founder of Integrated Dynamics (UAV producers) is a former employ of SUPARCO ..



Hahah your butthurt is amazing .. Let it flow !

Also why don't you shut up an Google or browse videos of AK firing during live ex?

There is a good reason it has been exported to KSA (150 of them).

And it's watered down export models to Myanmar,Bangladesh,Peru and Morroco?

P.S: It's not our tanks that don't work or blow up their own turrets n barrels .


118-124 is still a big number (even if most of them aren't operational due to shortage of Foriegn sorted parts)..

well ... 124 +124 (on order) = 248 . more over you have around 500 AK in last 15 years , and Check the production on Arjun when its started .

Moreover , no of tank decide on strategies and not on quantities. If you think Quantity is the parameter then then out 2000 tanks , you only have 500 or so AK , which means u also don't believe in AK tanks.

 

[holysaturn]

Just a little caveat, neither mk.1 nor mk.2 has yet wonbur army's confidence. The number are a huge giveaway.

how do you know? have you ever talke to the army officers internet analyst? there are several reasons for not ordering more.
1.The russian lobby in the army is very powerfull and is a well known fact in the army.
2.The army has not yet built comprehensive infrastructure(bridges,transports,wagons,repair and recovery vehicles) to support the arjun.This is the reason why arjun ARRV is being designed,as of now no vehicle can recover the arjun.
3.Quality issues on the part of HVF exists and there are problems in TOT between CVRDE and HVF.
4.The army has built up a comprehensive inventory,training procedures, tactics for the T-90 over the decades and is reluctant to repeat the same tedious task with the arjun(arjun is way different from t-72,t-90).
5.As the second order of arjun came late and the production stopped in between problems of Diminishing Manufacturing Sources and Material Shortages (DMSMS) and obsolescence are affecting effective support and manufacturing of the arjun.
Instead of debating about this important issue which affects every defence equipment on earth and to try finding solutions jingoistic bigotry has hijacked a good thread.
My pakistani friends here are commenting irrelevant stuff without an iota of knowledge on tanks or the arjun. Can any sane pakistani member reply to or acknowledge(is there anyone who can challenge this 24 year old kid?) what I am saying, they obviously cant because they are technically and knowledge wise deficient.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

2007 video says a lot.... when you claiming it best tank in the world.


well ... 124 +124 (on order) = 248 . more over you have around 500 AK in last 15 years , and Check the production on Arjun when its started .

Moreover , no of tank decide on strategies and not on quantities. If you think Quantity is the parameter then then out 2000 tanks , you only have 500 or so AK , which means u also don't believe in AK tanks.

LOL WHAT?

2007 video says a lot.... when you claiming it best tank in the world.


well ... 124 +124 (on order) = 248 . more over you have around 500 AK in last 15 years , and Check the production on Arjun when its started .

Moreover , no of tank decide on strategies and not on quantities. If you think Quantity is the parameter then then out 2000 tanks , you only have 500 or so AK , which means u also don't believe in AK tanks.

Another BS POST.

 

[Zarvan]

LOL WHAT?

Another BS POST.

Stop wasting time with Indians. Whole world knows Indian Army hates Arjun

 

[holysaturn]

Stop wasting time with Indians. Whole world knows Indian Army hates Arjun

LoL Elite member who has no clue or evidence but just blows hot air, substantiate please,did the DG Mechnaised Forces call you and tell you personally.Get a life people dont talk about things on which you have no knowledge or credentials.

 

[Alfa-Fighter]

Stop wasting time with Indians. Whole world knows Indian Army hates Arjun

Why are you posting and waiting time?

LoL Elite member who has no clue or evidence but just blows hot air, substantiate please,did the DG Mechnaised Forces call you and told you personally.Get a life people dont talk about things on which you have no knowledge or credentials.

They think they dreams are ultimate truth..... when you show them mirror for which they can't argue , they either delete the post and ban you from that threat.

 

[Dazzler]

how do you know? have you ever talke to the army officers internet analyst? there are several reasons for not ordering more.
1.The russian lobby in the army is very powerfull and is a well known fact in the army.
2.The army has not yet built comprehensive infrastructure(bridges,transports,wagons,repair and recovery vehicles) to support the arjun.This is the reason why arjun ARRV is being designed,as of now no vehicle can recover the arjun.
3.Quality issues on the part of HVF exists and there are problems in TOT between CVRDE and HVF.
4.The army has built up a comprehensive inventory,training procedures, tactics for the T-90 over the decades and is reluctant to repeat the same tedious task with the arjun(arjun is way different from t-72,t-90).
5.As the second order of arjun came late and the production stopped in between problems of Diminishing Manufacturing Sources and Material Shortages (DMSMS) and obsolescence are affecting effective support and manufacturing of the arjun.
Instead of debating about this important issue which affects every defence equipment on earth and to try finding solutions jingoistic bigotry has hijacked a good thread.
My pakistani friends here are commenting irrelevant stuff without an iota of knowledge on tanks or the arjun. Can any sane pakistani member reply to or acknowledge(is there anyone who can challenge this 24 year old kid?) what I am saying, they obviously cant because they are technically and knowledge wise deficient.

So are you saying the Russian lobby has attained enough power to officially influence India's strategic requirements since they have such control over army command?? Goodness!
Just one thing, DRDO need at least 500 pieces initial order to achieve break even for each batch. The IA never committed more than 124 for each batch, making a total of 248 for two versions. So much for satisfaction.

 

[fast]

2007 video says a lot.... when you claiming it best tank in the world.
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LOL, this garbage video again. It shows how truly desperate you Indians are. Nice try for coming up with the garbage. Next.

BTW, the pathetic Arjunk can't even run in the field. LOL.

 

[holysaturn]

So are you saying the Russian lobby has attained enough power to officially influence India's strategic requirements since they have such control over army command?? Goodness!
Just one thing, DRDO need at least 500 pieces initial order to achieve break even for each batch. The IA never committed more than 124 for each batch, making a total of 248 for two versions. So much for satisfaction.

I am not saying anything,I don't give personal opinions here on PDF,they just don't matter.I just communicate what is being communicated among the EME officers,deputed army officers from PXE balasore,CVRDE officials. The CAG reports also support that claim if you are aware of it.
I gave other reasons but you ignored them because you just cant deny them and cant blow unsubstantiated air over them.
I have the credentials of contacts in the army and DRDO,what are your credentials to refute what I said.