Tell me did you read my post at all ? OR you read it and interpreted it based on your limited capacity to understand ?
Here's a gist - radars cannot see through mountains. So it does not matter if its ERIE or PHALCON or WEDGETAIL - it cannot see through mountains. Its a natural barrier and technology hasnt solved the problem of seeing through natural barriers. I am assuming you are able to comprehend so far. Next - Srinagar AFB is located in bowels of pir panjal range. So fighters taking off from that base wont be detected (unless you have a stationary radar located on the mountains itself looking down on to the airport OR ERIE is flying extremely close to the border which was not the case). So ERIE or any sophiscated radar wont be able to detect fighters climbing out from the airport till it crosses the mountain ranges - once it crosses the mountain ranges, it becomes visible to the radar.
Are you with me ? Ok - This is the reason why your BARCAP's were taken by surprise on the presence of Mig 21's because ERIE did not alert them. Phalcons were able to track F16's because all of them were above mountain ranges or atleast most of them were (except for 1 which is mentioned in Abhinandans citation)
Oh boy! you seem like no abilities of talking on technical Matters of situation on 27 FEB like most Indian do here on PDF, ERIEYE was not flying on 2000-3000 feet above the ground, in fact it was fly higher, higher than Pir panjal range and your Mig-21 wasn't crawling in the valley floor that our ERIEYE hadn't see you Mig-21, you can't defy Physics or i think Indian will
, Srinagar to LOC has a distance of 200 km or more Mig-21 takes times (few mintues)to Reach LOC and your MAHAN/Vedic Mig-21 has to climbed get out of this bowl like depression as you say, so it can be detected instantly when its get out by bowl like depression not only by ERIEYE but PAF ground based radars ( ANP-77/YLC-18 AESA), F-16's ANP-68V9 which is overlapping ERIEYE radar
and you know what is the meaning of AEW aircraft, AIR BORNE EARLY WARNING and control Aircraft which meant to be look further then enemy area better than ground based radars, that's some of the SAMs's RADARs has been put on the Mast to look further inside enemy airspace like your S-400 systems have some its radars mounted on elevated mast for better coverage
and as you say in your post our F-16 flying higher altitude (40'000 feet) than Mig-21 than its had better chance to detect your MIG-21 hich was flying lower altitude ( some Indian sources says 15,000 feet) earlier because of high altitude advantages and how can you your MAHAN/Vedic Mig-21 can detect our F-16 with limited coverage ( because its flying through the mountains which further reduce its radar range because pir panjal range has higher altitude than where your MAHAN/Vedic Mig-21 flying, dude you have nothing have to prove but you and your countrymen believes in fairy tails that fed by you Vedic IAF and your Govt
Can you read what i wrote ? very clearly. And paste here what i wrote. It will be clear to you what i am saying
You haveThis dude cut your crap you know nothing what are you talking about you acts likes a you're Former IAF ACM or beside abhi you're flying Mig-21 instead of abhi, in your post mostly you're assuming/fictionalized the situation and contradictions so you lose the credibility
You have no clue what you are talking about. You need to read.What does the small dia of kopyo got to do here ? Discussion was never about range of the radar - Discussion was about how Abhi engaged F16 and brought it down
Oh my god! that's shows you have no technical know how of the discussion Radar is the main senor to detect/track/and engage the targets with out it jet get blind, you say in your debate with
@HRK , when taking off from Srinagar comm informed abhi that LOC was the Full of enemies, without proper detection/tracking by radar how can Abhi knows where is the target (and remember abhi Comm were by our EW and hence didn't receive any updates on his close airspace (SA)) so are you assuming Abhi blindly fired R-73 that's some how destroy our F-16 by luck, Rules of engagement doesn't allow in this scenario because you own jets (MKI/M-2000) were in the area, so there were a chance that Abhi's R-73 can hit your own jet (MKI/M-2000)
This post of your shows you have not ability to discuss the technicalities of the situation
Yes he knew ! Ground controller gave him at SITREP; He clearly knew friendlies. He activated his radar and located the bogies. Its clear from his citation - go to google and read his citation.Story never changed from IAF's perspective - OTOH what should i say about gafoora.
Again you know nothing instead of farting Mig-21 has less radar range than F-16 even for our oldest F-16 block-15 (APG-66) which have radar range of 150 km and your Mig-21 has a radar range of 50-70 km, how can it be possible that your Mig-21 lit our F-16 by radar and F-16 pilot didn't knew that he was lit by Mig-21 radar on RWR, and Last thing why our F-16 get close to your MIG-21 its can easily detect/track/engage with AMRAAM F-16 far beyond the capability of Mig-21, so stop farting use your brain if you have
your above point is garbage.
This point are very valid, and if Abhi fire blindly R-73 so how hit possible that R-73 homes into target without its capability range, stop farting do some research before you bark here
hahahahahahaha - what a pathetic post ! You think to defeat BVR pilot has to fly 10 - 11 or higher G's. Read very carefully what poster has wrote ! At Dmax 1 - even a transport plane can defeat BVR. Its pathetic practice and poor BVR tactics on PAF's behalf that they shot 5 AMRAAM at Dmax1. They were praying to the gods that one of them hit. Rightfully - all the IAF personnel called it poor BVR tactics. However - if the need of the hour was to get Su30's of your tail then it achieved that objective.
You know kid you know nothing about military aviation instead of farting/barking at extreme range all BVR have enough momentum/kinetic energy to maneuver at least 20-30 Gs, and yes even transport plane can defend itself from BVR but only through ECM/ESSM/EW not through agility/maneuverability and tell me what transport plane has ability dance like F-16/MKI
, go research kid than come here to bark
you have no capability to discuss on technical matters
