Main bhi KAFIR tu bhi KAFIR

[Zibago]

Shia's are not kafir but they r surely deviant from main stream Islam, even the word SHIA itself means a group/branch, which is forbidden directly in Quran

 

[EnggineerShahjehan]

I never said they r kafir, until they believe in Allah as only a supreme lord and Muhammad as final messenger they r within boundaries of Islam , but i said deviant from main stream Islam.

 

[jamahir]

The more colloquial though politically incorrect equivalent term is Dhera/Dhero.

However, for Zoroastrians faith and blood is inseparable. So its used for outsiders to both.

Closer in essence to the Hindu Mleccha than the Muslim Kafir.

may i say that you put religion ( yours especially ) on a high-moralistic pedestal a bit too often.

that has my observation from many of your posts.

there is really no future for any of the older religions, including zoroastrianism.

 

[haviZsultan]

That guy has talibani soch- every thing to him is kaffir-

Lol. You didn't understand anything? Its satire dude-he is pointing out the fallacies of the mullahs and how they declare others kaffir instead of praciticing Ijtehad and understand Allahs ways.

I have seen this crap for quite some time these jokers fail to come up anything from Quran and Sunnah and think this pathetic poetry can counter so called Mullahism

I agree. How can we expect our innocent suppressed and oppressed chehray pey noor waley mullahs to be cowed by this song. They will go to cinemas watch nargis, eat burgers, go shopping and then come home and call everyone kaffir blow things up and blame others for blasphemy. Thats is the true path, MashaAllah.

How dare this man make fun of muslims like this. Haram, haram, hruuuuuuu

 

[Maarkhoor]

 

[I.R.A]

there is really no future for any of the older religions, including zoroastrianism.

Its very hard to forget defeat of Aatish Parast Persian Empire at the hands of simple Muslim Arabs. Yazdgard and his No Ratan and their offspring will never forget that. That defeat brought down the wealthy capitalists of that time to their knees and made them respect the common people they enslaved once and plus a princess of Persia getting married to Harat Imam Hussain (RA) is something they can never forget. Current state of Muslims is deeply linked with seeds these fire worshipers sowed at that time, they infiltrated Muslims as pretending to be Muslims and kept on playing their dirty politics against Muslims to divide them and keep them away from Quran and they have been successful in that.

 

[haviZsultan]

Its very hard to forget defeat of Aatish Parast Persian Empire at the hands of simple Muslim Arabs. Yazdgard and his No Ratan and their offspring will never forget that. That defeat brought down the wealthy capitalists of that time to their knees and made them respect the common people they enslaved once and plus a princess of Persia getting married to Harat Imam Hussain (RA) is something they can never forget. Current state of Muslims is deeply linked with seeds these fire worshipers sowed at that time, they infiltrated Muslims as pretending to be Muslims and kept on playing their dirty politics against Muslims to divide them and keep them away from Quran and they have been successful in that.

Why are we having such an aggressive stand against Parsis who are by far the most inclusive peaceful and also the most successful group in Pakistan? What happened in the past is done. Zoroastrian rule ended and there were flaws in Zoroastrians that partly caused that but lets not label all parties as evil or insidious? Thanks.

 

[I.R.A]

Why are we having such an aggressive stand against Parsis who are by far the most inclusive peaceful and also the most successful group in Pakistan? What happened in the past is done. Zoroastrian rule ended and there were flaws in Zoroastrians that partly caused that but lets not label all parties as evil or insidious? Thanks.

I won't object if you can change the history, and what you saw on the other thread about Hazrat Khalid Bin Waleed is one example of what no ratan of Yazdgard have been successfully able to do to us. Your hope of Hazrat Imam Mehdi coming and removing all differences may remain a hope and I strongly hope too, but there are hell lot of differences about Imam Mehdi's coming, Hazir, Gaib is in hiding since he was 4 years old or he would show himself in Kabah.

 

[haviZsultan]

I won't object if you can change the history, and what you saw on the other thread about Hazrat Khalid Bin Waleed is one example of what no ratan of Yazdgard have been successfully able to do to us. Your hope of Hazrat Imam Mehdi coming and removing all differences may remain a hope and I strongly hope too, but there are hell lot of differences about Imam Mehdi's coming, Hazir, Gaib is in hiding since he was 4 years old or he would show himself in Kabah.

The shias are wrong the mehdi will be imam mehdi. The sunnis are wrong that no mehdi is coming. Lets leave it to Allah for now. But someone needs to cut our differences and unite us as one.

 

[I.R.A]

The shias are wrong the mehdi will be imam mehdi. The sunnis are wrong that no mehdi is coming. Lets leave it to Allah for now. But someone needs to cut our differences and unite us as one.

Quran is there, is not Quran sufficient to remove all confusion and differences? Jamal Ud Din Afghani said everyone who stands against evil can be Mehdi of his time, he made Mehdi Sudani believe in his cause and succeed.

 

[Zarvan]

Lol. You didn't understand anything? Its satire dude-he is pointing out the fallacies of the mullahs and how they declare others kaffir instead of praciticing Ijtehad and understand Allahs ways.


I agree. How can we expect our innocent suppressed and oppressed chehray pey noor waley muslims to be cowed by this song. They will go to cinemas watch nargis, eat burgers, go shopping and then come home and call everyone kaffir blow things up and blame others for blasphemy. Thats is the true path, MashaAllah.

How dare this man make fun of muslims like this. Haram, haram, hruuuuuuu

BLA BLA BLA come up with counter argument from Quran and Sunnah or stop wasting my time

 

[VCheng]

The shias are wrong the mehdi will be imam mehdi. The sunnis are wrong that no mehdi is coming. Lets leave it to Allah for now. But someone needs to cut our differences and unite us as one.

How can anyone say who is right and wrong when nobody can predict the future? Both are only beliefs as part of personal faith.

 

[vsdoc]

Its very hard to forget defeat of Aatish Parast Persian Empire at the hands of simple Muslim Arabs. Yazdgard and his No Ratan and their offspring will never forget that. That defeat brought down the wealthy capitalists of that time to their knees and made them respect the common people they enslaved once and plus a princess of Persia getting married to Harat Imam Hussain (RA) is something they can never forget. Current state of Muslims is deeply linked with seeds these fire worshipers sowed at that time, they infiltrated Muslims as pretending to be Muslims and kept on playing their dirty politics against Muslims to divide them and keep them away from Quran and they have been successful in that.

Glad someone gets it.

The fight never finished.

Not when you're dealing with a lizard eating daughter burying slave race.

And it's progeny.

 

[haviZsultan]

How can anyone say who is right and wrong when nobody can predict the future? Both are only beliefs as part of personal faith.

Of course. I apologize heavily for this. Who am I to criticize somebodies faith or long held beliefs. That was just my opinion. Even top mullahs shouldn't say this is haram or halal. They should start with "i may be wrong but such and such are my views" I apologize for hurting anyone my shia brother. I am not one to proselytize either. Thanks.

 

[haviZsultan]

This is how typial mullahs think... their arrogance makes them call shia out of the fold. Why can't we just accept each other?