Macron’s concern over China’s presence in Africa is about keeping riches in the West

[urienreghed]

No nation can ignore China. Of course Africa is going to trade with others too, but China is the elephant in the room. It has the hard cash and the resources that others don’t have.

yes like in Venezuela
see what happens. People are nearly starving.

 

[maximuswarrior]

yes like in Venezuela
see what happens. People are nearly starving.

That is just one example. China cannot be compared to Venezuela. There is a day and night difference between both.

 

[urienreghed]

That is another myth that Huawei is evil LOL The world isn’t buying this. Cisco also taps your data and so do so many other companies.

Western nations might fall for US propaganda, but the rest of the world continues to do business with Huawei. It is a high tech company that offers great solutions.

i didn't say different. of course USA are just trying to take it down.
but there are other things like Money value (USA and China are cheating)
and many other things that should be seen

when you pay low people compared to USA of course the competition is not competition
it is cheated competition

lot of chinese leave China because of this . a lot go USA

That is just one example. China cannot be compared to Venezuela. There is a day and night difference between both.

China is involved there: they invest billions

 

[OCguy]

i didn't say different. of course USA are just trying to take it down.
but there are other things like Money value (USA and China are cheating)
and many other things that should be seen

when you pay low people compared to USA of course the competition is not competition
it is cheated competition

lot of chinese leave China because of this . a lot go USA

Indeed. And they are extremely nice and social.

 

[maximuswarrior]

i didn't say different. of course USA are just trying to take it down.
but there are other things like Money value (USA and China are cheating)
and many other things that should be seen

when you pay low people compared to USA of course the competition is not competition
it is cheated competition

lot of chinese leave China because of this . a lot go USA


China is involved there: they invest billions

It doesn’t matter. One way or the other, every country applies all kinds of methods, fair or unfair, to win economically. The US and the West are also guilty of economic cheating, exploitation and unfair practices at the cost of developing nations. Let’s not get into that debate because no one can win that argument.

Of course China is going to invest in Venezuela. The US and the West would love to have regime change and install their own puppet to control Venezuelan oil. Don’t blame China or Russia who are supporting their man. Like I said it is pure business. Whoever comes first and has better deal wins.

 

[OCguy]

Of course China is going to invest in Venezuela. The US and West would love to have regime change and install their own puppet to control Venezuelan oil.

I agree with your entire post, except the motivation. Venezuelan oil is dirty, and we are already awash in a glut of light sweet crude and shale.

Regime change is already happening, and it is because of the Russian bombers they based there 2 weeks before this all started.

Check the dates, I think my theory holds water.

 

[maximuswarrior]

I agree with your entire post, except the motivation. Venezuelan oil is dirty, and we are already awash in a glut of light sweet crude and shale.

Regime change is already happening, and it is because of the Russian bombers they based there 2 weeks before this all started.

Check the dates, I think my theory holds water.

I don’t think regime change can happen. Russia and China won’t allow a regime change. It will be detrimental to their cause.

It is obviously not only about oil. This is also about the cat and mouse game between the West and China/Russia. The US is building military bases all around Russia and China. I think that Russia and China want to do the same in US vicinity. Venezuela is a good place as a military base.

 

[urienreghed]

I don’t think regime change can happen. Russia and China won’t allow a regime change. It will be detrimental to their cause.

It is obviously not only about oil. This is also about the cat and mouse game between the West and China/Russia. The US is building military bases all around Russia and China. I think that Russia and China want to do the same in US vicinity. Venezuela is a good place as a military base.

if they don't allow it
it means they support a guy who is starving its population

not something to be proud of. they should let people vote for president and elections should be controlled by UNO
this guy is killing its population

 

[maximuswarrior]

if they don't allow it
it means they support a guy who is starving its population

not something to be proud of. they should let people vote for president and elections should be controlled by UNO
this guy is killing its population

The West has applied sanctions against Venezuela. Of course the ordinary people are going to suffer.

Maduro might not be a shinging example, but he is the democratically elected leader of his nation. This is not Iraq where Saddam Hussein was removed from power by force.

 

[OCguy]

I don’t think regime change can happen. Russia and China won’t allow a regime change. It will be detrimental to their cause.

It is obviously not only about oil. This is also about the cat and mouse game between the West and China/Russia. The US is building military bases all around Russia and China. I think that Russia and China want to do the same in US vicinity. Venezuela is a good place as a military base.

Keep an eye on it, they won't hold out much longer.

China doesn't want to lose $48billion in bad loans and is scrambling, but the writing is on the wall

 

[maximuswarrior]

Keep an eye on it, they won't hold out much longer.

China doesn't want to lose $48billion in bad loans and is scrambling, but the writing is on the wall

We will see. I might be wrong and you might be right. It could also be the other way round.

 

[OCguy]

We will see. I might be wrong and you might be right. It could also be the other way round.

Facts.

 

[urienreghed]

The West has applied sanctions against Venezuela. Of course the ordinary people are going to suffer.

Maduro might not be a shinging example, but he is the democratically elected leader of his nation. This is not Iraq where Saddam Hussein was removed from power by force.

it is before sanctions that the country is facing the problems
real sanctions started this year. before it was just about 40 guys and very fresh too.

that 's a deal indeed. what to do when you see a guy is destroying its country?
that's why Europe asked for new elections. Elections controlled so there is no cheating.

Iraq is a different matter it is true even if Saddam was worst than Maduro. of course.

you see even the neighbour countries hate Maduro. that's a big sign there is a problem.

 

[vostok]

France bombed the wealthiest country of Africa - Lybia - and turned it into terrorist heavens, slave-market and land of lawlessness. And they dare to complain China make some business in Africa?

 

[Reddington]

The only concern of macron in Africa is that France receive its colonial tax from previous colonies in Africa .
If China promise not disrupt it I'm sure they will be glad to support China presence there.

You are right. This is what they are afraid of.
Read this article.

France’s Colonial Tax Still Enforced for Africa. “Bleeding Africa and Feeding France”
By World Bulletin
Global Research, September 25, 2016
World Bulletin 14 January 2015
Region: Europe, sub-Saharan Africa
Theme: Crimes against Humanity, Global Economy, History

When Guinea demanded independence from French colonial rule in 1958, the French unleashed their fury with more than 3,000 leaving the country taking their enteire property. In addition, they destroyed anything that couldn’t be taken – destroying schools, nurseries, public administration buildings, cars, books, medicine, research institute instruments, tractors were crushed and sabotaged, animals killed and food in warehouses were burned or poisoned. In effect they were sending a message to all other colonies that the consqueences for jrejecting France would be high.

Colonialism as an enduring stain in Africa’s history, and economic oppression continue to exist. An article by Mawuna Remarque Koutonin, peace activist and editor of SiliconAfrica.com addressed this practice.

The article called attention to an ongoing practice by which former African countries are forced to pay a colonial tax to France – even today. In fact, France continues to thrive on the practice, which extracts approximately 500 billion dollars from African countries each year.

After the French destroyed Guinea who had sought independence, the alternative was to pay a tax. No African country could estimate the effect this had on 14 different countries.

As Koutonin notes, this outrageous tax deprives African economies of much needed funds, exacerbates debt, and strips their authority over their own natural reserves. But the detriments are more than just economic, as the ills of colonialism manifest in social ways that are equally devastating to the dignity and identity of the African people:

Sylvanus Olympio, the first president of the Republic of Togo, instead of signing the colonisation continuation pact with De Gaulle, instead agreed to pay an annual debt to France for the so called benefits of French colonisation. This prevented the French not destroying the country before they left however the amount estimated by France was so big that the reimbursement of the so called “colonial debt” was close to 40% of the country budget in 1963. Olympio’s dream was to build an independent and self-sufficient and self-reliant country but the French had him killed by a seargeant who was given a $612 bounty by the French embassy.

France Doesn’t Want to be Left Out of “New Scramble for Africa”
History has shown that despite years of African fighting to liberate themselves, France repeatedly used many exForeign legionnaires to carry out coups against elected presidents. This included Jean-Bedel Bokassa who assassinated David Dacko, the first President of the Central African Republic. In the last 50 years, a total of 67 coups has occurred in 26 African countries, of which 16 are ex-French colonies. This indicates that France is desperate to hold on to whatever land it has in Africa.

In March 2008, former French President Jacques Chirac said:

“Without Africa, France will slide down into the rank of a third [world] power” and that Chirac’s predecessor François Mitterand already prophesied in 1957 that:

“Without Africa, France will have no history in the 21st century”.


Colonial Tax in the Billions

As of January 2014, 14 african countries are obliged by France, through a colonial pact, to put 85% of their foreign reserve into France central bank under French minister of Finance control.They are effectively putting in 500 Billion dollars every year to the French treasury. African leaders who refuse are killed or victim of coup. Those who obey are supported and rewarded by France with lavish lifestyle while their people endure extreme poverty, and desperation.

There are a number of components of the colonisation pact that has been in effect since the 1950’s. The main points being that the African countries should deposit their national monetary reserves in the France Central Bank. France has been holding the national reserves of fourteen african countries since 1961: Benin, Burkina Faso, Guinea-Bissau, Ivory Coast, Mali, Niger, Senegal, Togo, Cameroon, Central African Republic, Chad, Congo-Brazzaville, Equatorial Guinea and Gabon.

Despite the two main African banks having African names, they have no monetary policies of their own. In fact France allows them to access only 15% of the money in any given year. If there is need for any more, they need to borrow the extra money from their own 65% from the French Treasury at commercial rates.

The pact also included claused that Africa had an obligation to make French the official language of the country and the language for education and an obligation to use France colonial money FCFA (the Nordic countries tried unsuccessfully to get rid of this system when they discovered this).Also, they were obliged to send France an annual balance and reserve report. If they refused to send it, they would not be entitled to any money .

Obligation to ally with France in situation of war or global crisis

Over one million Africans soldiers fought for the defeat of nazism and fascism during the second world war. With their contribution ignored or minimised, the French know that Africans could be useful for fighting, which in effect shows that France is psychopathic when it comes to Africa.

The only question that remains unanswered however is when people first reaction when they learn about the french colonial tax is often a question: “Until when?”

Christof Lehmann wrote for nsnbc.me in 2012,

“France is indebting and enslaving Africans by means of Africa’s own wealth; for example: 12.0000 billion invested at three percent creates 360 billion in interests which France grants as credits to Africa at an interest rate of five to six percent or more. The allegory of ‘Bleeding Africa and Feeding France’ is no exaggeration, not alarmist, and not revolutionary.”



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