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The Times September 26, 2006

M16 'didn't tell us that 7/7 bombers were in Pakistan'

By Daniel McGrory

PRESIDENT MUSHARRAF of Pakistan says he is angered by the failure of British police and intelligence services to stop young British militants such as the 7/7 suicide bombers visiting his country before staging their terror attacks.

He claims that British secur-ity services did not tell him until three weeks after the 7/7 bombs that Mohammad Sidique Khan, leader of the suicide bombers, and another of the gang, Shehzad Tanweer, had slipped into Pakistan only months before the attacks, which killed 52 innocent people.

He claims that British Intelligence kept secret its information about the two Yorkshire-born bombers for 17 months and their links with known Pakistani terror suspects. His disclosure will again raise questions about whether Scotland Yard, MI5 and MI6 have told all they know about the British bombers, three of whom were of Pakistani origin.

Calls by survivors of the attacks for an independent inquiry to determine what the authorities knew about the bombers will be given fresh weight by the allegations.

General Musharraf revealed this apparently serious breakdown in Pakistan’s dealings with MI6 in a TV interview in the US to promote his memoir, In the Line of Fire, which is being serialised in The Times. He told 60 Minutes on CBS News: “It disappoints me, yes. But at the same time it annoys us also. They are not Pakistani. They are born and bred in Britain and they are British.” He did not say why the 7/7 bombers and other convicted British-born terrorists visited Pakistan and denied that their attacks were planned there.

His allegation is likely to deepen strains with British security agencies, which do not believe that Pakistani security chiefs have shared all they know about the 7/7 bombers despite promises after the attacks of full co-operation.

General Musharraf has already antagonised the CIA with his claim, disclosed in The Times yesterday, that it secretly paid his Government millions of dollars for handing over hundreds of al-Qaeda suspects to America. This is against the US government rules that only private individuals should receive reward money.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2374827,00.html
 
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Note Mushy's statement that they were not Pakistani...because they were born and bred in Britain..........By the same token Musharaf is indian....having been born and bred for 5 years in New Delhi ( capital of India ).

Why does Mushy hate us kashmiris and their decendents???did any kashmiri do anything to him or his family???
 
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That is an outrageous claim.

Those British did not revoke, reject and dispel their nationality and nationhood for Pakistan as Musharraf and all those that came from India did.

And what's it got to do with Kashmiris?
 
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That is an outrageous claim.

Those British did not revoke, reject and dispel their nationality and nationhood for Pakistan as Musharraf and all those that came from India did.

And what's it got to do with Kashmiris?


According to the Law of State of Pakistan ( which i know Mushy has played like a child plays with a toy ) pakistanis/kashmiris have the right to hold dual nationality ( as oppose to laws of some countries which forbid this like in Iran ).....mushy and his people have been running a campaign of sort that just because we live abroad we are not pakistani but British.....when in Law we are both Pakistani as well as British citizens....both British as well Pakistani law accept this fact....until this man born himself in India came along....claiming to be some super pakistani.

Its got to do with kashmiris since 80% of Pakistanis are of Kashmiri origin....stricking against pakistanis in UK inevitably is strick against them....who are the real target of his ire....for it was two kashmiris who came the closest to kicking mushy's head in..........eversince then his been running a vieled agenda of hate against us.....be it by his nonsensical joint management rubbish or declaring we are british and not pakistani.



PS. if you donot know the attack which mushy keeps on describing in detail...in which he says everything went dark....was carried out by two kashmiris...from rawalakot area of ajk.
 
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According to the Law of State of Pakistan ( which i know Mushy has played like a child plays with a toy ) pakistanis/kashmiris have the right to hold dual nationality ( as oppose to laws of some countries which forbid this like in Iran ).....mushy and his people have been running a campaign of sort that just because we live abroad we are not pakistani but British.....when in Law we are both Pakistani as well as British citizens....both British as well Pakistani law accept this fact....until this man born himself in India came along....claiming to be some super pakistani.

Its got to do with kashmiris since 80% of Pakistanis are of Kashmiri origin....stricking against pakistanis in UK inevitably is strick against them....who are the real target of his ire....for it was two kashmiris who came the closest to kicking mushy's head in..........eversince then his been running a vieled agenda of hate against us.....be it by his nonsensical joint management rubbish or declaring we are british and not pakistani.



PS. if you donot know the attack which mushy keeps on describing in detail...in which he says everything went dark....was carried out by two kashmiris...from rawalakot area of ajk.
The President by no means was revoking your nationality. He merely stated that being born and raised in Britain had the impact towards terrorist intendencies than holding a Pakistani nationality due to origins.

What are you saying? Musharraf should've agreed to the CBS interviewer? That would mean that we're agreeing that there is a terrorism gene within Pakistanis that despite being born and raised in a different environment it was the Pakistani origins that made them terrorists.

Musharraf's argument stated nothing else in no uncertain terms that it was Britain that made terrorists not Pakistan.
 
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He didnot have to agree to CBS interviewer...he could have pointed him to the video statements of the bombers themselves......they did it because of British participation in actions against muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan. Furthermore he could have pointed to British intelligence report which sets out war in iraq is radicalising muslims in Britain.
 
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Again why should he make excuses for the UK?

The interviewer pointed out that they also hold dual nationality and regardless of what's happening in Iraq and elsewhere they did bring shame to Pakistan and thus the disappointment.
 
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Again why should he make excuses for the UK?

The interviewer pointed out that they also hold dual nationality and regardless of what's happening in Iraq and elsewhere they did bring shame to Pakistan and thus the disappointment.


how can it be shame for pakistan.....it is not like they were representing the government of Pakistan.....or where pakistani diplomats. They acted out of there own feelings which they described in their video statements.
 
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Well their origin wasnt much of a matter of discussion,but the coincidence "of all these terror suspects visiting pakistan" was!!!
 
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According to the Law of State of Pakistan ( which i know Mushy has played like a child plays with a toy ) pakistanis/kashmiris have the right to hold dual nationality ( as oppose to laws of some countries which forbid this like in Iran ).....mushy and his people have been running a campaign of sort that just because we live abroad we are not pakistani but British.....when in Law we are both Pakistani as well as British citizens....both British as well Pakistani law accept this fact....until this man born himself in India came along....claiming to be some super pakistani.

Its got to do with kashmiris since 80% of Pakistanis are of Kashmiri origin....stricking against pakistanis in UK inevitably is strick against them....who are the real target of his ire....for it was two kashmiris who came the closest to kicking mushy's head in..........eversince then his been running a vieled agenda of hate against us.....be it by his nonsensical joint management rubbish or declaring we are british and not pakistani.



PS. if you donot know the attack which mushy keeps on describing in detail...in which he says everything went dark....was carried out by two kashmiris...from rawalakot area of ajk.


Bro that's all well and good about Kashmiri's but the 7th of July bomber all had their roots in mainland Pakistan. Shazad Tanveer came from the Punjab and was buried in Samundari. Sadiq Khan and Hasib Hussiain from what I know came from Rawalpindi and Jhelum respectively.


The remains of Tanweer were buried near his ancestral town of Samundari in Punjab province, Pakistan, in October 2005.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4762313.stm



Mushy is right about the intelligence reports as the home agencies made massive gaffs when it came to this quartet of terrorists. Sadiq Khan a KNOWN fanatic had been on the MI5 watch list and had been monitored for some time before he was stupidly taken off it because he was deemed a low level threat. We all know what happened next.
 
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Bro that's all well and good about Kashmiri's but the 7th of July bomber all had their roots in mainland Pakistan. Shazad Tanveer came from the Punjab and was buried in Samundari. Sadiq Khan and Hasib Hussiain from what I know came from Rawalpindi and Jhelum respectively.


The remains of Tanweer were buried near his ancestral town of Samundari in Punjab province, Pakistan, in October 2005.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4762313.stm



Mushy is right about the intelligence reports as the home agencies made massive gaffs when it came to this quartet of terrorists. Sadiq Khan a KNOWN fanatic had been on the MI5 watch list and had been monitored for some time before he was stupidly taken off it because he was deemed a low level threat. We all know what happened next.


The attack on mushy...in which two two suicide bombers rammed his motorcade...making his mercedes fly in the air and everything went dark for him for a while( as he tells us now ).....was carried out by two kashmiris from rawalakot.

About 7/7 bombers in the UK..here is what BBC analysis said;

Pakistan is the most obvious place because three of the four bombers had parents who came from there, and in particular from Kashmir.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4763097.stm

I donot remember now which one of the UK bombers was buried near faisalabad....but the reason his family has land there and relatives...is because they had to move and make way for the Mangla-dam....which submerged AJK ancient city of Mirpur ( the present day mirpur is built after 1965 ) and surrounding villages.
 
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The attack on mushy...in which two two suicide bombers rammed his motorcade...making his mercedes fly in the air and everything went dark for him for a while( as he tells us now ).....was carried out by two kashmiris from rawalakot.

About 7/7 bombers in the UK..here is what BBC analysis said;

Pakistan is the most obvious place because three of the four bombers had parents who came from there, and in particular from Kashmir.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4763097.stm

I donot which one of the UK bombers was buried near faisalabad....but the reason his family has land there and relatives...is because they had to move and make way for the Mangla-dam....which submerged AJK ancient city of Mirpur ( the present day mirpur is built after 1965 ) and surrounding villages.


Bro I know people who knew their families well....Shazad Tanveer who was buried in Punjab had no links to Kashmir neither did his family. They are through and through Punjabi.
 
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Bro I know people who knew their families well....Shazad Tanveer who was buried in Punjab had no links to Kashmir neither did his family. They are through and through Punjabi.

i would believe you rather than the BBC. :army:

I will amend by memory bank in my head to have them marked as all pure punjabis.
 
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