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M.A Jinnah on weeky time magazine cover April 22 1946

I searched by the keyword “jinnah” and it had 52 entries. Out of them, this 1946 Time magazine cover caught my attention. 16-months before the creation of Pakistan, Time magazine had this illustration of Quaid-e-Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah on its cover with the sub-title that had said it all. And, today, the anti-Muslim sentiment in india tell us that they have not forgotten their cow that was eaten by the Moslem tiger 67 years ago.
Unfortunately in 1971 the herd of cows took advantage of the civil war and defeated the one tiger in the east but that tiger is still holding it,s territory ,he just changed his name.One tiger in the west is still threatening the cows.

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look carefully,
indian occupied kashmir is included in pakistan in that pic..............isn't enough proof that kashmir was considered a part of pakistan on international comunity :pakistan:

You were not going to get even an inch of Pakistan without the approval from Indian National Congress.:cuckoo: Pakistan was given because League was creating lots of hurdles for peaceful transition of power like constituting the constituent assembly, princely states etc. Just after independence Liaquat Ali Khan even dissolved the constituent Assembly of Pakistan which delayed the framing of constitution in Pakistan. Whole world know who succeeded, who didn't.
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If you want to say that congress had any other choice , then you are really ignorant . Gandhiji used to say that "Pakistan can be made only over my dead body" !!
and NEHRU and group proved it later, pakistan must be made over gandhi,s deadbody:omghaha:
 
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what about Khulna, Chittagong Hill tract and the Hindu majority districts of Sindh when you got Muslim majority districts of Assam.

Before Kashmir who interfered in Junagadh and hyderabad. You are pretending if Pakistan was very innocent. :girl_wacko:

BTW if you don't consider Ahmedis as Muslims, why think Gurdaspur was yours. :cheesy:

Chittagong Hill Tracts were given to Pakistan as they were inaccessible to India

Khulna District (52% Hindu) was given to East Pakistan in lieu of Murshidabad district (70% Muslim) which went to India.

Sylhet district of Assam joined Pakistan in accordance with a plebiscite. However, the Karimganj sub-division with a Muslim majority was severed from Sylhet and given to India. As of the 2001 Indian Census, Karimganj still has a Muslim majority of 52.3%.

Division of Sindh was not included in partition plan

Ahmedis were considered Muslims back then and they played a active role in Pakistan Movement ,

So stop spreading BS please !!

Who interfered in Junagarh ?? India played her dirty role in Hyderabad & Junagadh as usual

This statement is controversial. We never know what kind of role LMB and EMB played when

1. Their marriage was at stake for a long which started way back in England

2. Mountbatten was a good husband but not good enough to keep his wife loyal to him

3.They did not have much time to conspire as they were not allowed to linger the partition any further by the Congress and ML politicians.

4.EMB was too busy in humanitarian efforts to intervene in political matters

So, let's shoot the easy duck Radcliffe. Not the assumed "EMB-LMB" nexus.

Nehru was from Jammu and he wanted accession of J&K to India , and he used his personal influence (on EMB & LMB ) , Gurdaspur was a Muslim majority district which was given to India only to provide a land route to Jammu (through Pathankot) .. A pre-planned conspiracy was there .. Nehru was the main role player . Cant be blamed on Radcliffe alone
 
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You were not going to get even an inch of Pakistan without the approval from Indian National Congress. Pakistan was given because League was creating lots of hurdles for peaceful transition of power like constituting the constituent assembly, princely states etc. Just after independence Liaquat Ali Khan even dissolved the constituent Assembly of Pakistan which delayed the framing of constitution in Pakistan. Whole world know who succeeded, who didn't.


Why Indians and Pakistanis are so ignorant of their own forking history.


Congressi Propaganda: Hindu Majority provinces and Muslim Majority provinces can't live together
 
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@FaujHistorian
Yar its not a serious thread . usual trolling by Gabbar Singh aka @INDIC here ... ;)
The matter of the fact is British divided us , not congress or league
Wali Khan has described it in following words :


Sir Syed said that every inhabitant of India, no matter what his personal belief, can be called a Hindu by virtue of his
belonging to Hindustan. The essence of his teaching was that Muslims had to unite with Hindus against the British. The
Hindus being the favoured community were being provided employment and education. The Muslims, on the other hand,
were being deliberately ignored. Therefore the only way out for them was to join forces with Hindus
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The British were becoming conscious of this merging trend. They realized that their position would be considerably
weakened if the two communities got together and presented united opposition. To counter this the British decided to
introduce reforms based on communalism. The first of these, the Minto-Morley Reforms of 1909, was related to elections to
local and municipal committees. According to these, Muslim votes could be cast only for the Muslims and the Hindu votes
for the Hindus. In this manner the British laid communalism as the foundation-stone of democracy. This was the first blow they inflicted upon Sir Syed's ideals.
By proposing a communal rather than a national basis for politics, they forced the Hindus
and Muslims into a position whereby if they wanted to enter municipal or community politics, their electioneering was limited to wooing their religious brethren, and fighting on religious rather than political issues.
 
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Then we must prove that lala lajpat rai was a British agent.

Not necessarily . By the time he suggested partition of Punjab and setting up other Muslim provinces in 1925 , the divide between Muslims and Hindus had already been created by the British .

To destroy the Hindu-Muslim unity the British relied upon their Muslim subjects. The Khilafat Movement was primarily a Muslim movement in which the Hindu participation was a matter of principle. The British encouraged the Muslims to break the unity fostered by Khilafat because they knew that this was the best manner of disillusioning the Hindus. The first anti-Khilafat announcement was made by the Nizam of Hyderabad on 22 May 1920. His "firman" stated that since the Khilafat was an anti-Muslim movement it was henceforth declared illegal. During the Khilafat Movement Gandhi and the Ali Brothers had visited Aligarh Muslim University. To reduce the impact of their visit, the British incited the Muslims of Aligarh against the Hindus, on the pretext of protecting Muslim rights.


On the second of November 1921, Mohammad Shafi, a member of the Viceroy's Executive Council, presented a two
pronged scheme:

(i) To weaken the movement for a united India, itwas essential to lure away the Muslims; thiscould only be done if the British signed the Peace Treaty with Turkey.

(ii) An Anglo-Mohammadan Union in the interest of the British Empire should be organized.


On 21 September 1922, Viceroy Lord Reading wrote to
the Secretary of State for India:

I have just sent you a telegram, which will show you, how near we have been to a complete break between Muslims and Hindus. I have been giving the greatest attention to this possibility, and I have had the greatest assistance from Shafi on my council, who is a highly respectable Mohammadan.

As time passed the British realized that the success of their mission was dependant on the cooperation of the Muslims.
They decided that first they should announce their willingness to surrender control provided the Hindus and the Muslims were
ready to sink their differences. Then they should utilize their influence over the Muslims to make sure that the two parties
never cooperated. This was a sure way of creating dependence upon themselves. On this subject the Secretary of State for
India, Birkenhead wrote on 22 January 1925:

The more it is made obvious that these antagonisms are profound, and affect an immense and irreconcilable
section of the population, the more conspicuously is the fact illustrated that we and we alone can play the part
of the composers
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Chittagong Hill Tracts were given to Pakistan as they were inaccessible to India

Go see the map. :wacko:

Khulna District (52% Hindu) was given to East Pakistan in lieu of Murshidabad district (70% Muslim) which went to India.

Sylhet district of Assam joined Pakistan in accordance with a plebiscite. However, the Karimganj sub-division with a Muslim majority was severed from Sylhet and given to India. As of the 2001 Indian Census, Karimganj still has a Muslim majority of 52.3%.

Division of Sindh was not included in partition plan

Partition plan only said Bengal and Punjab to be divided but Pakistan was given extra preference in Assam and then shed crocodile tears for not getting Hindu majority areas.

Ahmedis were considered Muslims back then and they played a active role in Pakistan Movement ,

So stop spreading BS please !!

Now you don't consider them as Muslims, so why is this grumbling all about.

Who interfered in Junagarh ?? India played her dirty role in Hyderabad & Junagadh as usual

A nation founded on Two nation theory tried grab Hindu majority Junagadh and Hyderabad both being non-contiguous with Pakistan and even supplied weapons to Razakars to massacre Hindus in Hyderabad then blaming Indians as playing dirty. It sounds pot calling the kettle black. :girl_wacko:
 
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Not necessarily . By the time he suggested partition of Punjab and setting up other Muslim provinces in 1925 , the divide between Muslims and Hindus had already been created by the British .

To destroy the Hindu-Muslim unity the British relied upon their Muslim subjects. The Khilafat Movement was primarily a Muslim movement

Khilafah phatta lafafah movement was an utter disaster and source of hate from day-1

this is why Jinnah opposed the damn thing,.


For your theory about Khilafah movement to hold

you have to prove that moplas were British agents too.
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Rai was talking about kicking out MMP (Muslim Majority Provinces) long before 1925.

Being a Punjabi Hindu, he had really bad blood running against Muslim Punjabis based on the events of 1860s.

Gandhi supported Khilafa movement so as to pull down Muslim-soldiers' immensely positive and heroic role in WW-1 and under the direction of other racist hindu leaders.

And thus Khilafa phatta lafafah movement destroyed 1000s of young Muslim men and their families.


Please quit believing in this Amma-bawa and Mullah made up stories about Khilafah phattah lafafah movement.


Thank you

peace
 
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Nehru was from Jammu and he wanted accession of J&K to India , and he used his personal influence (on EMB & LMB ) , Gurdaspur was a Muslim majority district which was given to India only to provide a land route to Jammu (through Pathankot) .. A pre-planned conspiracy was there .. Nehru was the main role player . Cant be blamed on Radcliffe alone

In July'1947, Mountbatten cabled London,saying "Nehru and Gandhi are pathological." not because he wanted J & K to accede India, but for his insane comment to encourage rebellion in all princely states who would go against joining India. So, it was quite obvious that being the head of the state Mr.Nehru would want "all" the princely states marching before him.

The personal relationship between Mr.Jinnah and Mr.Mountbatten never reached at a cordial stage. I respect Mr.Jinnah from my heart but I do not understand his stand on not sending any capable MLeaguer to the states department in '47. If he had done so, the political geography of this region would have been much different.

Now, if you are saying that taking J & K was all preplanned, sadly I can't agree with you Azlan bhai.Initially, everybody including the British, the ML and the AICC, all believed that Kashmir will eventually go to Pakistan,taking it's communication, trade,geography and population into account. Although Nehru belonged to Kashmir, he had just a faint hope that Kashmir will come to India. We all know here,about the unfortunate events that took place starting with the mass genocide by the Dogras and the following repercussions across the border. Sadly, nobody was prepared to tackle such events, neither Nehru who always fumbled in emergency nor Mr.Jinnah who never recuperated from his deteriorating health, keeping all of us in eternal disarray.
 
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Nehru was from Jammu and he wanted accession of J&K to India , and he used his personal influence (on EMB & LMB ) , Gurdaspur was a Muslim majority district which was given to India only to provide a land route to Jammu (through Pathankot) .. A pre-planned conspiracy was there .. Nehru was the main role player . Cant be blamed on Radcliffe alone

Nehru was from Kashmir valley, a Kashmiri Pandit, not from Jammu as you claiming, Kashmir became part of India because of Pakistan's blunder of attacking and Pashtuns getting indulged in killings, rape and looting of Kashmirs.

Pathankot was Hindu-Sikh majority Tehsil in Gurdaspur, before partition plan it was decided whole of Gurdaspur won't be given to either India or Pakistan. So, after partition Shakargarh was given to Pakistan and rest of Gurdaspur to India.
 
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Well said.

Few comments though!

...The personal relationship between Mr.Jinnah and Mr.Mountbatten never reached at a cordial stage.
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Mountbatten was sent to replace Wavell for many reasons.

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setting up cordiality with Jinnah was not one of them. There are lots of reasons for that. I can go into details in a separate thread.


....I respect Mr.Jinnah from my heart but I do not understand his stand on not sending any capable MLeaguer to the states department in '47. If he had done so, the political geography of this region would have been much different..

states department?

Nehru was from Kashmir valley, a Kashmiri Pandit, not from Jammu as you claiming, Kashmir became part of India because of Pakistan's blunder of attacking and Pashtuns getting indulged in killings, rape and looting of Kashmirs.

you know anything about Punch uprising?
 
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