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NATO-backed Libyan regime persecutes black Africans
9 September 2011

The widespread racist persecution of immigrant African workers and black Libyans by forces opposed to Libyan ruler Colonel Muammar Gaddafi is a damning indictment of Libya’s National Transitional Council (NTC) and its Western backers.

The US and its European allies launched their neo-colonial war against the Gaddafi regime on the pretext of protecting civilians and have hailed their new client regime as the beginning of a new era of democracy in Libya. Mass racist reprisals in NTC-held areas are yet another devastating exposure of these tattered lies. As well as killing and maiming civilians through its relentless bombing, NATO bears responsibility for the arbitrary arrest, physical abuse and extra-judicial killings of thousands of black Africans by its NTC proxies.

US-based Human Rights Watch (HRW) has called for an end to the systematic detention of black Africans accused of fighting as Gaddafi’s mercenaries. HRW regional director Sarah Leah Whitson stated: “It’s a dangerous time to be dark-skinned in Tripoli. The NTC should stop arresting African migrants and black Libyans unless it has concrete evidence of criminal activity. It should also take concrete steps to protect them from violence and abuse.”

Prior to the outbreak of war, there were between 1 and 2 million African migrants in Libya. The overwhelming majority were not mercenaries, but worked in menial jobs.

HRW officials visited two among scores of makeshift jails throughout Tripoli, where hundreds of mainly black prisoners—young and old—were being held in overcrowded, squalid conditions. In most cases, the only supposed evidence of prisoners’ guilt was their skin colour. Reports indicate that thousands have been arbitrarily detained throughout Tripoli.

Tripoli NTC members speaking to HRW defended the arrests as necessary—in the words of NTC member Abudlrzag Elaradi—to “secure the revolution.” Mohammed al-Alagi, whom the NTC appointed as justice minister, told the media this week that conditions in detention centres were “up to international standards.”

The NTC’s token appeals for its forces not to abuse prisoners are purely for international consumption. As part of its anti-Gaddafi propaganda, the NTC has stirred up racism against African immigrant workers, claiming they took jobs from Libyans, and against Gaddafi’s aid to other African countries.

Vilifying African immigrants and black Libyans also serves to divert attention from the corrupt and criminal character of the NTC itself—composed of ex-Gaddafi officials, CIA assets, and Islamists. Those with blood on their hands include NTC Chairman Mustafa Abdel Jalil and NTC Interim Prime Minister Mahmoud Jibril who were justice minister and national economic development board head, respectively, in the Gaddafi regime before switching sides. The NTC military commander, before he was assassinated in July in unexplained circumstances, was Abdel Fattah Younis, formerly Gaddafi’s interior minister.

Many African workers have already left the country, while tens of thousands have fled their homes and crowded together into makeshift camps for security. Aminu Zimbo from Ghana told Voice of America that black foreigners were being targeted by anti-Gaddafi militia.

“They just came. They were shooting guns. We ran. Our passports were in the room. We just escaped because they killed lots of Ghanaians there. They kill all blacks. That is why we decided to run,” he said.

Last week Reuters stated: “Reporters saw the bodies of 22 men of apparent African origin at a Tripoli beach Saturday, people who locals said were mercenaries killed by anti-Gaddafi forces. Elsewhere in Libya, dead men of African origin have been a common sight since the uprising, as has been the sight of ill treatment of Africans by Libyan anti-Gaddafi fighters.”

Black Libyans from tribes in the south of the country are particularly vulnerable, as they have nowhere to flee. Amnesty International has called for a halt to reprisals and the arbitrary arrest of Tawarghas, who were being detained and severely beaten in Tripoli. “Others have simply vanished after being arrested at checkpoints and taken from hospitals by armed revolutionaries (thuwwar),” the human rights organisation said.

The US and international media, which have cheered on the imperialist war in Libya, have largely ignored the systematic maltreatment of black Africans or downplayed its extent and significance amid the trumpeting of a new dawn of democracy in Libya.

In fact, the brutal methods used against African workers emerge directly from the character of the Libyan war and of the NTC itself. The US and the European powers, who had collaborated closely with Gaddafi over the previous decade, turned on their former ally to seize critical oil resources and establish the NTC as a proxy regime—serving as a bulwark against the revolutionary uprisings against US-backed dictatorships in Egypt and other countries of the Middle East.

Now, the NTC and its imperialist backers, who are busy signing contracts handing Libya’s oil wealth over to major Western energy conglomerates, intend to use the most brutal measures against any popular opposition. They hope to escape all criticism of their actions thanks to the whitewashing of their political image by the international media.

In the forefront of this reactionary enterprise are various left-liberals and pseudo-radical organisations that have supported NATO’s “humanitarian” intervention in Libya. Among them, University of Michigan Professor Juan Cole has consistently acted as a political apologist for the war and for NATO’s NTC proxies in Libya.

His blog last week dismissed reports that “some African mercenaries may have become victims of reprisal killings” as “sketchy,” echoing official NTC claims to oppose mass reprisals—and ignoring mounting evidence of systematic racist abuse.

The persecution and killing of black immigrants and Libyans is a devastating refutation of all those who claimed that imperialist war could bring democracy to Libya. They bear full political responsibility for the war’s cost in destroyed and ruined lives.

Peter Symonds

NATO-backed Libyan regime persecutes black Africans
 
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These "rebels" will soon see the benefits of western democracy human rights and the western way of life. Just give it 6 months. Grass is often greener on the other side
 
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These "rebels" will soon see the benefits of western democracy human rights and the western way of life. Just give it 6 months. Grass is often greener on the other side

have you realized the evil fruits of western democracy and human rights in england?
 
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have you realized the evil fruits of western democracy and human rights in england?

Once again Jay you are off topic. Im sorry if i have offended you but honestly I have nothing against gay inidans or gay people of any nation and brown wannabe whites. back to topic Libyan rebels and western nations will soon realise better the debil you know.
 
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These "rebels" will soon see the benefits of western democracy human rights and the western way of life. Just give it 6 months. Grass is often greener on the other side
I guess you are a pakistani living in the UK. Have you seen any difference between western democracy and human rights and that of your own country yet.

I can easily say they are way ahead of us Indians.
 
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I guess you are a pakistani living in the UK. Have you seen any difference between western democracy and human rights and that of your own country yet.

I can easily say they are way ahead of us Indians.

In terms of broader political outlook, yes I will agree. But socially I think our colorful and intense societies are far better. However, I'd love to see that level of transparency in our government.
 
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I guess you are a pakistani living in the UK. Have you seen any difference between western democracy and human rights and that of your own country yet.

I can easily say they are way ahead of us Indians.

Western democracy is an opiate of the masses. The UK has a what they call unwritten constitution. The primeminister in the UK is reffered to in academic legal circles as an elected dictator. For example he excercises power by the royal prerogative and can take the country to war on his whims like blair did, In the previous govt I think labour only had about 34% of the people who voted voted for his party. 80% or so of british citizens decided not to vote or vote against blair yet he was able to launch into a illegal war based on lies of WMD. lots of british people a maijority dare i say were against the iraq war.

If there is a difference between developing world democracy its only in subtlety. Our political leaders for example are corrupt. They take a bribe and do something. Its all very sophisticated in the UK. For example Blair supported Zionists. After he retired he got jobs with companies who had zionist owner/managers who paid lots of money for lectures etc
 
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Once again Jay you are off topic. Im sorry if i have offended you but honestly I have nothing against gay inidans or gay people of any nation and brown wannabe whites. back to topic Libyan rebels and western nations will soon realise better the debil you know.

You sure are fixated on the "gay" meme. other than childish remarks, why don’t you answer the question that you so professed to have an acute knowledge of -- i.e. the evils of democracy and its human rights.

Tells us -if you even understand half of what you write yourself- the evils of England’s democracy and human rights-. after all you made the tall claim of democracy being something Libyans should not look forward to.

and give us an examples of how/why you would advise your country to drop its democracy to your model.

Btw- keep in mind if UK was not democratic you and your pals would be deported out of leeds... hmm inconvenient truth
 
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You sure are fixated on the "gay" meme. other than childish remarks, why don’t you answer the question that you so professed to have an acute knowledge of -- i.e. the evils of democracy and its human rights.

Tells us -if you even understand half of what you write yourself- the evils of England’s democracy and human rights-. after all you made the tall claim of democracy being something Libyans should not look forward to.

and give us an examples of how/why you would advise your country to drop its democracy to your model.

Btw- keep in mind if UK was not democratic you and your pals would be deported out of leeds... hmm inconvenient truth
you sure what are true.....
 
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Western democracy is an opiate of the masses. The UK has a what they call unwritten constitution. The primeminister in the UK is reffered to in academic legal circles as an elected dictator. For example he excercises power by the royal prerogative and can take the country to war on his whims like blair did, In the previous govt I think labour only had about 34% of the people who voted voted for his party. 80% or so of british citizens decided not to vote or vote against blair yet he was able to launch into a illegal war based on lies of WMD. lots of british people a maijority dare i say were against the iraq war.

If there is a difference between developing world democracy its only in subtlety. Our political leaders for example are corrupt. They take a bribe and do something. Its all very sophisticated in the UK. For example Blair supported Zionists. After he retired he got jobs with companies who had zionist owner/managers who paid lots of money for lectures etc

I am not comparing political systems,corruption etc here even though they are in a better shape than us.
Do you agree in democracy and human right, they are ahead of us, south asian?

Name a single country south asian country which has better human rights than UK. You can always show specific cases but overall we all know we would rather deal with UK law enforcement agency than Indian/Pakistani/Bangladeshi/SriLankan police.

I am not a well connected person in India, and I will **** in my pants, if I have to deal with Indian police.
 
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Western democracy is an opiate of the masses. The UK has a what they call unwritten constitution. The primeminister in the UK is reffered to in academic legal circles as an elected dictator. For example he excercises power by the royal prerogative and can take the country to war on his whims like blair did, In the previous govt I think labour only had about 34% of the people who voted voted for his party. 80% or so of british citizens decided not to vote or vote against blair yet he was able to launch into a illegal war based on lies of WMD. lots of british people a maijority dare i say were against the iraq war.

If there is a difference between developing world democracy its only in subtlety. Our political leaders for example are corrupt. They take a bribe and do something. Its all very sophisticated in the UK. For example Blair supported Zionists. After he retired he got jobs with companies who had zionist owner/managers who paid lots of money for lectures etc

@Hinduguy- in his mind all roads lead to zionism. in his model when people don't vote means the system is at fault. His prefered dictators dont take countries to war on their whim- or slaughter those who speak against their regime. thats the world view he has... england if follows his model would kick him out of the country - that's if he survives them.
 
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@Hinduguy- in his mind all roads lead to zionism. in his model when people don't vote means the system is at fault. His prefered dictators dont take countries to war on their whim- or slaughter those who speak against their regime. thats the world view he has... england if follows his model would kick him out of the country - that's if he survives them.

Jay I have allready said to you I have no issues with gays. If you are it is a matter for you. Back to topic which of my assertions do you disagree with. I have stated facts. Please point out where I am mistaken. I am more than willing to address and or be corrected anything that i have asserted. I see no point in you just generally been critical be specific so that I may respond.
 
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I am not comparing political systems,corruption etc here even though they are in a better shape than us.
Do you agree in democracy and human right, they are ahead of us, south asian?

Name a single country south asian country which has better human rights than UK. You can always show specific cases but overall we all know we would rather deal with UK law enforcement agency than Indian/Pakistani/Bangladeshi/SriLankan police.

I am not a well connected person in India, and I will **** in my pants, if I have to deal with Indian police.

I do agree in a form of government that is representative of its people. I strongly have a sense of justice and value human life and human rights above all. What I abhor is the double standards and hypocracy of the west.

In UK and pakistan or india if you dont put your head above the parrapet and keep a low profile you are safe. Law enforcement in all three countries leave a lot to be desired.

corruption in the west exists but it is more subliminal and subtle
 
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I do agree in a form of government that is representative of its people. I strongly have a sense of justice and value human life and human rights above all. What I abhor is the double standards and hypocracy of the west.

In UK and pakistan or india if you dont put your head above the parrapet and keep a low profile you are safe. Law enforcement in all three countries leave a lot to be desired.

corruption in the west exists but it is more subliminal and subtle

Again I will stick to democracy and human rights in this discussion as that was the original point you raised.

human rights:
If you are an ordinary person in India, you do not have much human rights. That is not to say you will be bothered by others or govt. But your human right will be tested, when you come in contact with law enforcement agencies.
Whether you are victim of crime, or your are criminal yourself(which is when you will deal with LE), your human right will much better respected in the UK. If you are elite in India, it could be different.

Democracy
Specifically in UK, democracy is much better practised compared to India. You cannot entice somebody to vote for you using your money or liquor. Nobody will vote based on caste/tribe. Also not many criminals get elected to UK parliament.

That is not to say UK is perfect. There is lot of improvement needed in their democratic system itself, also law and order.
However, I would not highlight those faults in their system to force myself into believing something which is not true.

I am not so sure about pakistan. You have lived in pakistan as well as UK. Can you tell overall, where do you think democracy and human rights works better.

If you are an elite, then dont bother. I know the answer.
 
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