I know the reason of fasting and ramazan but it's not healthy for we humans other than loosing weight. It says us to encourage little kids to fast. But especially for them; it's harmful. Why stopping eating and become hungry to feel others instead of buying a meal for a poor person to make him/her feel better and healthy. /QUOTE] like others already said, it's for practicing self control,knowing what is hunger so that you help the poor, an excuse to bring people together with such occasions,other than that such laws, instructions, rituals etc is to *bring a nature obedience in to followers, to bring uniformity and common practices which becomes an identity of *Muslims , to bring discipline, etc
Why Arabic why? Every social, family laws of Islam is based at Arabic culture and arabic nationalism. Honestly I don't wanna learn sth religious with Arabic. Why would I learn Arabic to find out my religion?
it's not a must to learn arabic to learn Islam, but it's better if you know Arabic because the translations of koran may give a different meaning than what is given in Arabic,koran is better understood when you have an idea of Arabic culture, literature ,political situations, *religious practices, prevailing at *that period of time.
If our fate's already written, why God wants to examine it's people. Why there is a need for "a Quiz" as every soul's fate is written?
I guess the atheist in you is not entirely dead, which is good.
I read some parts. It says to kill those who reject Islam. What's goin on there. Is this comin from the "religion of peace".
I can't comment on koran in particular because it will hurt the sentiments of many, i can only comment in general. IMO one can *read a religious books with three kind of mentality. 1) with absolute rationality and critical mind to assert what is the original situations, meaning,etc.often atheists/agnostics only can do so because believers beliefs tend to mislead them.When you read like that you will find many things which are not good , not compatible with today's ethics and practices, concepts,harmony, etc, but a rational person will understand the context, time period, culture, practices, etc in which this verses, concepts are formed.He will *understand that when a certain practice or order is shown as given or practiced by prophet/saints/god himself, it only shows that at that period of time that was the practice or ethics or this order is given to replace a even more primitive and worse practice and concept. so a rational person wouldn't be affected by the concepts written in it, even when he interprets those verses as such when he comes across certain concepts which doesn't go well with today's ethics. 2) there is another kind of reading of religious books by practitioners of the same religion, it's not completely a rational reading, but he applies rationality and I will come to it. when a person with knowledge and some what modern ethics read his own religious texts he will come across many such verses which doesn't suit today's ethics and concepts, but he can't abandon his faith for that, at the same time his rational mind and ethics says to him that he can't follow what is written in those verses, that's not right , *in a situation like this his mind knowingly or even unknowingly starts to think for a solution, and the solution is to give it a better interpretations, change the context if needed,find out alternate meaning for words, call certain parts a story , *call those parts *or a certain book as a contamination or un authentic , etc.I consider this group as ranging from liberal to orthodox. 3) This *kind of *people and their reading/interpretations *are often a dangerous ones, this comes from people with no rationality or modern ethics and morality.When these narrow minded men read religious books they follow it word by word, some times they don't understand tht context, or time period, geography, history etc, which lead to certain verses, and even if what they got is the original meaning and situation(when looked from the POV of rational reading ) if the verses conflict with today's ethics and realities, they will choose to follow what is written in book, they neither do have the *first group's *attributes of RATIONALITY + MODERN ETHICS *nor *the second group s Attributes of BELIEF + MODERN DAY ETHICS + PARTIAL/Limited *RATIONALITY. so they fail to read these books either completely rational with out any prejudice and attachment or to *interpret or avoid certain verses to make it, and there by his practices more compatible with modem day society and ethics. this kind of people are a dangerous combination of irrationality, lack of common sense and lack of modern day ethics, they are like blind men *trying to find out what is an elephant by touching and holding to it, they never see the entire picture, for them *elephant is *a big pillar or a small broom.I consider this group as ranging from orthodox to hard liners to extremists. *
I've never seen a race/country who accepted Islam without having a war with the Arabic, or a bloody civil war under the name of "revolution". EX: I'm Circassian, we were christian (ortodox) actually., when the arabs came to caucasus to spread their view, we've resisted for dozens of years. then We've been broken up. And accepted Islam. Ok.
Most religions are the same Islam, Christianity, Hinduism etc all spread though different methods including violence..violence was used even against the different ideologies within the same religion.
If Islamic rules are the best (it has to be if it's the true religion). Why all of the muslim nations we know are either in a civil war or there's a dictatorship or people uprise or HDI and GDP is very very low?
I guess they failed to update with the changing world, I don't know in details.
* I get that; cigarettes and alcohol (count alcohol out IMO) are forbidden because they are harmful. But why there's a restrict for sexual relationship. At least it starts to become a human need even at the middle of the teenage period according to researchs.
When used in controlled manner alcohol and sex is good, later is not prohibited but restricted in **Islam.
Anyways, for my logic, Of course there's a God. But Islam? I'm not sure about it ??? * What do you say? I'd like to hear opinions from muslim/jewish/christian/hindu/atheist members.
It's up to you to choose which ideology you find more inspiring.
(I was gonna open that thread in somewhere else. But then either there'd be a religion war or people trying to act like clerics/saints, i do want to hear some serious facts, assistance, replies with logic)
It's a good decision as it keeps the trolls and over sensitive out of the thread, but it's bad for me as I don't have a free pass, I have to come through moderators to post,
so moderators please pass my post, I spend too much time typing it .
