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Lockheed to handover latest F-35 tech to India in fighter jet bid
F-16 production might be moved to India
By Asia Times staff April 27, 2018 4:36 AM (UTC+8)
American defense contractor Lockheed Martin is sweetening a potential deal with India, offering to fork over the latest fighter jet technologies in a bid for the world’s largest aircraft order. India is seeking proposals for a total 110 aircraft, totaling a reported minimum of US$15 billion.

Advanced radar fitted on their fifth-generation F-35 combat jets will be offered on the F-16 jets, Lockheed vice-president Vivek Lall said in an interview reported by Bloomberg.

“There are a lot of technologies that come into the F-16 from F-35 and F-22, including the latest radar on these platforms,” Lall said. “It is a contemporary, state-of-the-art platform.”

The bid also reportedly comes with an offer to move the F-16s only production line, currently based in Fort Worth, Texas, to India.

Lockheed sees huge potential for the company’s business in India, plans for which dovetail with Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s “Made in India” campaign.

“Potentially, India could emerge as a manufacturing hub for F-16. Just as the aviation industry has grown in Turkey over the years for F-16 and fighter planes, there is potential for India to become a major hub for F-16s,” according to John Losinger of Lockheed’s Integrated Fighter Group Communications. “The beauty of F-16 is it could potentially put India in the large global supplies chain. But the outcome depends on the Government procurement decision,” he was quoted as saying in The Hindu Business Line.

“Defence procurement world over is a long process and India is no exception,” Chief Executive of Lockheed’s India unit, Phil Shaw, said. “However, the quicker the orders come the better […] These defence deals have potential to strengthen business back home while also creating new jobs in the US and India,” Shaw said.

http://www.atimes.com/article/lockheed-to-handover-latest-f-35-tech-to-india-in-fighter-jet-bid/
 
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Here is my assessment.

F-16 is being retired all world around in favor of F-35. Major operators of F-16 are in Europe and they get their spares from Turkey and USA now where is F-16 left will be Middle east and by the time the plant is setup in India Middle east will also near retiring F-16 as in most new defense jet procurement in middle east no one ordered F-16 so India will get the plant operational in Next 10 years and by that time India will be the sole operator of F-16 in the world because rest of the world would have retired the F-16. So in 2035 when the world will be flying 5th gen India will be mass producing F-16. lol this is the only possible situation that could be fitted in producing F-16 in India.
 
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Countries like Jordan, Turkey, Pakistan, SK, Egypt, Morocco, UAE, Qatar, Bahrain and of course the EU will continue to operate this F-16 for another decade. US trying to sell the aftermarket parts business to the Indians. The sweetener in this is the F-35 assembly lines. Once again all US puppets in the EU, the wahabbi countries and other camel jockey puppets in the Persian Gulf will also buy from India if F-35 assembly line gets set up at HAL, just like how the US set up the F-16 line in turkey in 1980.

The only issue here is that both the F-16 and the F-35 are junk! So selling junk to puppets business.

Here is my assessment.

F-16 is being retired all world around in favor of F-35. Major operators of F-16 are in Europe and they get their spares from Turkey and USA now where is F-16 left will be Middle east and by the time the plant is setup in India Middle east will also near retiring F-16 as in most new defense jet procurement in middle east no one ordered F-16 so India will get the plant operational in Next 10 years and by that time India will be the sole operator of F-16 in the world because rest of the world would have retired the F-16. So in 2035 when the world will be flying 5th gen India will be mass producing F-16. lol this is the only possible situation that could be fitted in producing F-16 in India.
 
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Countries like Jordan, Turkey, Pakistan, SK, Egypt, Morocco, UAE, Qatar, Bahrain and of course the EU will continue to operate this F-16 for another decade. US trying to sell the aftermarket parts business to the Indians. The sweetener in this is the F-35 assembly lines. Once again all US puppets in the EU, the wahabbi countries and other camel jockey puppets in the Persian Gulf will also buy from India if F-35 assembly line gets set up at HAL, just like how the US set up the F-16 line in turkey in 1980.

The only issue here is that both the F-16 and the F-35 are junk! So selling junk to puppets business.

As you said your self for a decade so India if opted for F-16 will complete the plant in a decade minimum and by that time there will be no buyers. Pakistan will use F-16 for next 10 years at max because by that time Pakistan will get JF-17 block 3 at a less cost than operating F-16 for a year.
 
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The main component here is the F-35 assembly lines. F-16 manufacturing a 10 year bonus. All the late comers (puppets) to the F-16 party like Iraq, Morocco, UAE, Bahrain, Qatar possibly Afghan etc.......will buy from India, if this goes thru.
 
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Those birds are not junk, but will become junk if made in India.. trump is scamming India for sure.. he knows India is a Russian important strategic ally.. and BTW there is no ToT apart from the assembly line itself..
 
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If F-16 and F-35 are junk ...then how you can define JF-17 :) , US is not a reliable partner and believe me India should not buy critical weapons from US at all
The only issue here is that both the F-16 and the F-35 are junk! So selling junk to puppets business.

Really man F-16 and F-35 can be anything but junk ...... although I am not in favour of India buying anything critical weapon from US
And your Qahir-313 will be 10 gen ahead of F-35 @Tokhme khar :lol::rofl::sarcastic::suicide::suicide2::jester::enjoy:
 
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Take their billions and after they fork out the cash, the u.s. senate blocks the transfer of technology. THAT is the u.s. business model. Neither Turkey nor isreal have been given the core technologies, they still have to order the radars and engines from the u.s. is bhaayrray bimaar india ko technology dein gey, aaho...:laugh:
 
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Take their billions and after they fork out the cash, the u.s. senate blocks the transfer of technology. THAT is the u.s. business model. Neither Turkey nor isreal have been given the core technologies, they still have to order the radars and engines from the u.s. is bhaayrray bimaar india ko technology dein gey, aaho...:laugh:

Modi is not looking for any ToT.
 
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India is not looking to procure F-16,no matter how much you paint some decals and put new headlights.The single engine tender was scrapped because Lockheed/GoUS was not willing to provide any substantive technology.Also buying F-16 to be able to buy F-35 at a future date sounds like blackmail
 
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India is not looking to procure F-16,no matter how much you paint some decals and put new headlights.The single engine tender was scrapped because Lockheed/GoUS was not willing to provide any substantive technology.Also buying F-16 to be able to buy F-35 at a future date sounds like blackmail

It is the TINA(There Is No Alternative) factor.

Rafale and Eurofighter are too expensive while IAF does not like Mig-29/35.
 
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