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Your soldier are dying too, just that they are not telling you any more about it.

Your army has adopted a policy of just declaring civilian casualties(wonder, why they are afraid off declaring military casualties, perhaps the numbers are demoralizing?).

Where has Indian been declaring civilian and military casualties alike.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...ians-killed-along-ib/articleshow/64284554.cms
What nonsense, when a soldier dies, he is someones father, brother, husband or son.
Unlike IOK, there are no unmarked graves on our side of the border.
It's in fact Indian army, who cover up their suicides by blaming it on Pakistani fire and even announce them as an accident.
 
2 Army Jawans Killed In Jammu And Kashmir After Pak Ceasefire Violation
Kupwara, Jammu And Kashmir: The two soldiers who were killed were Junior Commissioned Officers. One of the soldiers was earlier injured after the ceasefire violation.

All India | Edited by Anuj Pant (with inputs from PTI) | Updated: December 21, 2018 19:07 IST

SRINAGAR: Two army jawans have died in a sniper attack by Pakistan, violating ceasefire along the Line of Control in Jumgund at Jammu and Kashmir's Kupwara district.

The ceasefire violation occurred at the around 11.55 am today, according to news agency Press Trust of India.

The two soldiers who were killed were Junior Commissioned Officers (JCOs). One of the soldiers was earlier injured after the ceasefire violation.

Pakistani Sniper scores again.
@Areesh @DESERT FIGHTER @Taimoor Khan @snow lake @maximuswarrior
nothing to celebrate. the Indian public will celebrate when they will kill Kashmiri civilians.

Indian will retaliate by shooting at Kashmiri villagers across the the LoC
recall the shooting a 23 year old woman who was killed in the courtyard of her home by Indian sniper.
that scumbag must be proud for shooting a civilian in her own home
 
2 Army Jawans Killed In Jammu And Kashmir After Pak Ceasefire Violation
Kupwara, Jammu And Kashmir: The two soldiers who were killed were Junior Commissioned Officers. One of the soldiers was earlier injured after the ceasefire violation.

All India | Edited by Anuj Pant (with inputs from PTI) | Updated: December 21, 2018 19:07 IST

SRINAGAR: Two army jawans have died in a sniper attack by Pakistan, violating ceasefire along the Line of Control in Jumgund at Jammu and Kashmir's Kupwara district.

The ceasefire violation occurred at the around 11.55 am today, according to news agency Press Trust of India.

The two soldiers who were killed were Junior Commissioned Officers (JCOs). One of the soldiers was earlier injured after the ceasefire violation.

Pakistani Sniper scores again.
@Areesh @DESERT FIGHTER @Taimoor Khan @snow lake @maximuswarrior

Double strike today by our sniper

MashaAllah

This is what happened last time

Except you nobody cares what happened last time in your bed time stories multiple ID rat


Multiple ID rat is back @waz @The Eagle @Arsalan @Dubious
 
What nonsense, when a soldier dies, he is someones father, brother, husband or son.
Unlike IOK, there are no unmarked graves on our side of the border.
It's in fact Indian army, who cover up their suicides by blaming it on Pakistani fire and even announce them as an accident.

Well, your army managed to cover up the death of your soldiers deployed in Kargil, to keep up with it's ruse that only Jihadi groups were deployed in Kargil. So not declaring its casualties is not a big deal for them.

Wonder, initially what your army must have told the families of those soldiers, where they died and how.

If you wan't, I can post a few examples of Pakistani soldiers killed on LOC(mostly from there obituaries pictures on facebook) is last one year, but never declared by ISPR.
 
As they say - ignorance is bliss. But fact is, any person who believes, Pakistani soldiers are not being killed is reciprocal sniper actions is making a fool out themselves.

Just that fact, that Pakistani army has stopped declaring its casualties, all they reveal now are civilian casualties.

If you want proof of Indian snipers being deployed on LOC.

https://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/hea...i-womans-death-by-indian-snipers-fire-at-loc/

Firstly this was from November 8th last month;

A Pakistani soldier was killed in "unprovoked firing" by Indian troops along the Line of Control (LoC), the army said on Thursday.

Sepoy Zaheer Ahmed was killed in Thub Sector due to "unprovoked firing by Indian troops," army spokesman Maj Gen Asif Ghafoor said in a statement


https://www.business-standard.com/a...an-firing-across-loc-army-118110801250_1.html

You put up an article of your snipers killing an innocent woman? Poor.....
Several Indian troops were killed in retaliation as a result of this wayward sniper of yours.

Here was the first of the several;

An Army soldier was killed Sunday by a Pakistani sniper along the Line of Control in Rajouri district of Jammu and Kashmir,

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...iper-along-loc-in-jk/articleshow/66580100.cms


You better hold back on breaking out the beer yet, especially with today's news.
 
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Now get ready for gurkha headhunting.

You mean like this???????

India lodges strong protest over soldiers' beheading , political spat to follow

NEW DELHI: The Indian army today lodged a strong protest with the Pakistani military over the beheading of its two soldiers in Jammu and Kashmir, calling it a "dastardly and inhuman" act which merited "unequivocal condemnation and response".

https://m.economictimes.com/news/de...eak-over-hotline/amp_articleshow/58474152.cms

https://m.economictimes.com/news/de...mutilated-on-loc/amp_articleshow/55562304.cms
 
Number of martyred troops can’t be disclosed, Senate told
Iftikhar A. KhanUpdated June 07, 2017
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Pakistan Army troops — File

ISLAMABAD: After a minister’s hesitation to share the number of Pakistani troops who laid down their lives in recent incidents of Indian firing from across the Line of Control (LoC), Senate Chairman Mian Raza Rabbani on Tuesday held that no information could be withheld from parliament.

Minister of State for Water and Power Abid Sher Ali informed the house that as many as 66 civilians had been killed and 288 injured as a result of unprovoked Indian firing from across the LoC, but the number of army troops martyred could not be disclosed due to security reasons.

“We do not want our enemy to know how many soldiers laid down their lives,” he said.

The minister said a letter had been written to the General Headquarters, seeking more details which were expected to be available in a couple of days.

The chairman said the calling attention notice on the matter had appeared on the agenda on Tuesday but it had been with the Senate secretariat for several days and the information should have come by now.

“Will the order of parliament prevail or that of the Ministry of Defence or GHQ?” he asked.

Stressing that no information could be concealed from parliament, he said if the government wanted, the session could be declared in-camera when it would be shared.

He said parliament was supreme and he could not allow hiding of information from the forum.

The chairman ordered that the information be provided to the house during the current session.

He said that if any matter of national security was involved, there were two options: either an in-camera session could be held or the information submitted to the office of the Senate chairman where the members could go through it.

Senator Ateeq Sheikh of the Muttahida Qaumi Movement had moved the notice to draw the government’s attention towards the loss of precious lives of Pakistani citizens in the Indian firing.

Afghan border

Speaking on an adjournment motion about firing on a census team by Afghan security personnel, Senator Mushahid Hussain Sayed of the PML-Q said Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi wanted to use Afghan soil to create instability in Pakistan.

He said the United States was pursuing a dual policy on Afghanistan. He recalled that there had been representation of the Haqqani network in a meeting held in Murree where representatives from the United States, China and Afghanistan met the Taliban. He said warlord Gulbadin Hekmatyar had joined the Qaumi Ittehad (national unity) Government in Afghanistan.

“What is the harm in a dialogue with Taliban and the Haqqani network?” he asked.

The senator said Afghan President Ashraf Ghani had talked of opening a Taliban office in Afghanistan. The Afghan Taliban also had an office in Doha where the US had the largest base, but it kept on pressuring Pakistan, he said.

He said the US had met failure in Afghanistan and now it needed a scapegoat with its eyes focused on Pakistan.

He was of the view that Pakistan should appoint a special representative for Afghanistan.

Senator Hafiz Hamdullah of the Jamiat Ulema-i-Islam-Fazl criticised the policy of closing the Chaman and Torkham borders on the plea that they were used by the Afghan National Directorate of Security (NDS) and Indian Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) agents to find their way into Pakistan.

He pointed out that the border with Afghanistan was 2,900km long with many small crossing points and the NDS and RAW people could also use them enter the country. He said the economy of Chaman was linked with the border and its closure was tantamount to punishing the people of the town.

Senator Taj Haider of the PPP said terrorists were a common enemy of Pakistan and Afghanistan and called for joint action against them so that they could not find shelter anywhere. He said economic relations were essential for peace, which could not be achieved by closing the border.

Published in Dawn, June 7th, 2017
 
nothing to celebrate. the Indian public will celebrate when they will kill Kashmiri civilians.

Indian will retaliate by shooting at Kashmiri villagers across the the LoC
recall the shooting a 23 year old woman who was killed in the courtyard of her home by Indian sniper.
that scumbag must be proud for shooting a civilian in her own home

Yep that's the response. She was avenged many times over though. They will think twice before pulling something like that again.

Number of martyred troops can’t be disclosed, Senate told
Iftikhar A. KhanUpdated June 07, 2017
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593762413d2e6.jpg

Pakistan Army troops — File

ISLAMABAD: After a minister’s hesitation to share the number of Pakistani troops who laid down their lives in recent incidents of Indian firing from across the Line of Control (LoC), Senate Chairman Mian Raza Rabbani on Tuesday held that no information could be withheld from parliament.

Minister of State for Water and Power Abid Sher Ali informed the house that as many as 66 civilians had been killed and 288 injured as a result of unprovoked Indian firing from across the LoC, but the number of army troops martyred could not be disclosed due to security reasons.

“We do not want our enemy to know how many soldiers laid down their lives,” he said.

The minister said a letter had been written to the General Headquarters, seeking more details which were expected to be available in a couple of days.

The chairman said the calling attention notice on the matter had appeared on the agenda on Tuesday but it had been with the Senate secretariat for several days and the information should have come by now.

“Will the order of parliament prevail or that of the Ministry of Defence or GHQ?” he asked.

Stressing that no information could be concealed from parliament, he said if the government wanted, the session could be declared in-camera when it would be shared.

He said parliament was supreme and he could not allow hiding of information from the forum.

The chairman ordered that the information be provided to the house during the current session.

He said that if any matter of national security was involved, there were two options: either an in-camera session could be held or the information submitted to the office of the Senate chairman where the members could go through it.

Senator Ateeq Sheikh of the Muttahida Qaumi Movement had moved the notice to draw the government’s attention towards the loss of precious lives of Pakistani citizens in the Indian firing.

Afghan border

Speaking on an adjournment motion about firing on a census team by Afghan security personnel, Senator Mushahid Hussain Sayed of the PML-Q said Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi wanted to use Afghan soil to create instability in Pakistan.

He said the United States was pursuing a dual policy on Afghanistan. He recalled that there had been representation of the Haqqani network in a meeting held in Murree where representatives from the United States, China and Afghanistan met the Taliban. He said warlord Gulbadin Hekmatyar had joined the Qaumi Ittehad (national unity) Government in Afghanistan.

“What is the harm in a dialogue with Taliban and the Haqqani network?” he asked.

The senator said Afghan President Ashraf Ghani had talked of opening a Taliban office in Afghanistan. The Afghan Taliban also had an office in Doha where the US had the largest base, but it kept on pressuring Pakistan, he said.

He said the US had met failure in Afghanistan and now it needed a scapegoat with its eyes focused on Pakistan.

He was of the view that Pakistan should appoint a special representative for Afghanistan.

Senator Hafiz Hamdullah of the Jamiat Ulema-i-Islam-Fazl criticised the policy of closing the Chaman and Torkham borders on the plea that they were used by the Afghan National Directorate of Security (NDS) and Indian Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) agents to find their way into Pakistan.

He pointed out that the border with Afghanistan was 2,900km long with many small crossing points and the NDS and RAW people could also use them enter the country. He said the economy of Chaman was linked with the border and its closure was tantamount to punishing the people of the town.

Senator Taj Haider of the PPP said terrorists were a common enemy of Pakistan and Afghanistan and called for joint action against them so that they could not find shelter anywhere. He said economic relations were essential for peace, which could not be achieved by closing the border.

Published in Dawn, June 7th, 2017

A year and a half old news!

A Pakistani soldier was killed in "unprovoked firing" by Indian troops along the Line of Control (LoC), the army said on Thursday.

Sepoy Zaheer Ahmed was killed in Thub Sector due to "unprovoked firing by Indian troops," armyspokesman Maj Gen Asif Ghafoor said in a statement


https://www.business-standard.com/a...an-firing-across-loc-army-118110801250_1.html


FROM LAST MONTH! The army does disclose casualties....
 
Well, your army managed to cover up the death of your soldiers deployed in Kargil, to keep up with it's ruse that only Jihadi groups were deployed in Kargil. So not declaring its casualties is not a big deal for them.

Wonder, initially what your army must have told the families of those soldiers, where they died and how.

If you wan't, I can post a few examples of Pakistani soldiers killed on LOC(mostly from there obituaries pictures on facebook) is last one year, but never declared by ISPR.
See first you post about an incident where your army killed a woman...Bravo
And now you are running back to Kargil, well may i remind you when India introduced terrorism in this part of the world by using Muktis, it also didn't admit until recently being hand in glove with them.
And it's really amusing when you folks claim to have seen videos on facebook or otherwise of Pakistani casualties, but in the same breath claim of cover ups.....if say ISPR wanted to hide these casualties, would they have allowed anyone to film the funerals or burials....talk some sense man.
 
Yep that's the response. She was avenged many times over though. They will think twice before pulling something like that again.



A year and a half old news!

A Pakistani soldier was killed in "unprovoked firing" by Indian troops along the Line of Control (LoC), the army said on Thursday.

Sepoy Zaheer Ahmed was killed in Thub Sector due to "unprovoked firing by Indian troops," armyspokesman Maj Gen Asif Ghafoor said in a statement


https://www.business-standard.com/a...an-firing-across-loc-army-118110801250_1.html


FROM LAST MONTH! The army does disclose casualties....
i didn't said nothing , i just cited pakistani media report in which the senate was refused by GHQ ,meaning the accountability really isn't their even by the highest democratic institution ,as said in India it is different as rather than semantics we care about paying respect.
 
Now get ready for gurkha headhunting.

BAT

i didn't said nothing , i just cited pakistani media report in which the senate was refused by GHQ ,meaning the accountability really isn't their even by the highest democratic institution ,as said in India it is different as rather than semantics we care about paying respect.
Since suddenly Pakistani media has become your saving grace, i suggest you read the topic carefully before pressing the reply button.....the guy in question was standing in for the defence minister and didn't have a clue about military matters.

Minister of State for Water and Power Abid Sher Ali informed the house that as many as 66 civilians had been killed and 288 injured as a result of unprovoked Indian firing from across the LoC, but the number of army troops martyred could not be disclosed due to security reasons.
 
This year has been a very deadly year for the Indian Army in terms of casualties, If I am not wrong this year around 45-50 Indian soldiers have been killed on LOC.
11-15 were killed in Jan-Feb ( Indian sources)
Toll increased to 27-30 by June /July ( Indian sources)
By now it might be 45+ correct me If I am wrong.

Now get ready for gurkha headhunting.
Okay.
 
See first you post about an incident where your army killed a woman...Bravo
And now you are running back to Kargil, well may i remind you when India introduced terrorism in this part of the world by using Muktis, it also didn't admit until recently being hand in glove with them.
And it's really amusing when you folks claim to have seen videos on facebook or otherwise of Pakistani casualties, but in the same breath claim of cover ups.....if say ISPR wanted to hide these casualties, would they have allowed anyone to film the funerals or burials....talk some sense man.

First post was about, making a point, that just like Pakistani snipers are on LOC, Indian snipers are also deployed on the LOC, yet Pakistan has yet to accept any of its soldiers have ever been sniped. All we heard from Pakistan is about a civilian killed in Indian sniper attack.

Second point about Kargil was made, when you said it is impossible to hide the death of these soldiers, as they are fathers, brother, son's to which I pointed out, Pakistani army has on previous occasions has successfully fooled the Pakistani nation.

I am not saying ISPR is planning an elaborate cover up to hide its casualties from the world. I am just saying, ISPR is not publicly acknowledging all its casualties, neither is it ready to declare its total numbers.

I seriously feel pity for situation of bharatis

From claims of bringing in 10 heads for 1 head you have been limited to posting year old pics to satisfy yourself and to give a boost to your ego.

Anyways I have pictures too. 36 of them from this year alone. Would post all of them when this year ends to further puncture your ego. ;)

It is not about bragging, it is about exposing, an undeclared policy of Pakistan army's - to not declare all its casualties or total number of them.
 
It is not about bragging, it is about exposing, an undeclared policy of Pakistan army's - to not declare all its casualties or total number of them.

Pakistani policy towards its casualties shouldn't be your concern.

Your concern should be despite all claims Pak keeps on allegedly violating ceasefire and keeps on killing Indian soldiers.

The second thing should be of concern for indians but clearly I am yet to to see any Indian concerned about the thing that actually matters for them.
 

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