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List of important geographical names with Iranian origins

as u know pakistan was a part of india and then it was seprated. as pakistan's people were muslim and indian people were praying cows and etc ... , they called it pakistan , it means they are clean, because they pray god ....
یکی این رو هم ترجمه کنه: هندی ها کافر بودند و نجس پس چون اینا مسلمون بودند و پاک بهشون می گند پاکستان
pakistan founders may have named it because it's a islamic country. while, pakistan geographically is much more closer to persia and their culture is actually much different than that of mainland india. the region of afghanstan,pakistan comes under as a major influenced regions of persian empire unlike separate,distinct cultural entity like india. the perisan influence in india is less if not for the ancient rulers who ruled north india. people are not the same.

The "stan" ending comes from the Sanskrit "Sthan" which is an independent word meaning "place".

Does "Stan" exist as an independent word in Persian?
sthan(sthana..sthanam) is a word so commonly used in Indian languages irrespective of north and south. I think, we have no words to replace "-sthana".
 
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Thanks God PPP was not there at the time of independance otherwise the name of Pakistan would be shaheedistan or bhutooistan or something...

the names shows wht ppls want at time of independance the leaders thoughts were beyond personal intrests & tht shows in their salection of names as well....
hope we get the same braod vision leaders again....

soo the renaming of places will end...:)
 
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Pak in Persian means clean/sacred, and the word ustan in Persian means 'province'. The suffix -istan comes from the Persian word ustan which means 'province', Afghanistan means 'the province/land/place of the Afghans'. Golistan(garden) means the place of the flower, etc...

How Much Iqbal Lahori Persian Poetry is famous in Iran?
Not very much among ordinary Iranians but the people who are interested literature know him and his poems are in our literature text books taught in Iranian high schools.
 
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Wrong


India , doesnt come from Persia.

How ever Hindu, Hind comes from Persians.

India comes from Indus river. Indus is Greek word. Persians got the word "Hindu" also from river indus. The indigenous Sanskrit name was Sindhu , Persians couldn't say this right so it became Hindu.

Indus-Indie-India-Indian-Indo, etc <---This part came from the Europeans(Greeks to French)
Sindhu-Hindu-Hind-Hindustan-Hindustani <---Bold part is Persian, Arabic, etc
Bharat <--- Indigenous




This is wrong too.

Chin, was sanskrit. People in the plains of India called them "Chin". Most proabably referring to Tibetians, not the Hans.
You are right about Sindhu.But the name India actually came from Persian were they called it Hindustan,then Greeks called it Indus as they couldn't spell h.
This is from an Indian site:
The name of this land, recognised as a sub-continent in its own right, demonstrates how these outside influences and complexities affected this country. Essentially, the name “India” was derived from the Old Persian word for the Indus River. Originally, there were seven main tributaries that ran through north-west India, making up one main river. For this reason, this part of the subcontinent was called Sapta-Sindhu, which meant “land of seven rivers”. Sindhu generally refers to a body of water (like a river, lake or ocean), and the local inhabitants would refer to the river by this name.

When the Old Persian travellers arrived in this area, they were no doubt fascinated by the topographical and geographical features of this beautiful land. When they translated “Sindhu” into their own tongue, the “s” became an “h” in line with
Vintage map of India from the 19th century.
Map from 1879 Iranian Sanskrit. So, the river and the land it characterised became known as Hindu.
 
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Yes, I have heard this as well. The word "Qin" was tranlisterated into Persian and became "Chin", which became China. :tup:

(In our own language though, we call our country "Zhong guo" which means the Middle Kingdom.)


The word "China" is derived from Cin (&#1670;&#1740;&#1606;), a Persian name for China popularized in Europe by the account of the 13th-century explorer Marco Polo. The first recorded use in English dates from 1555. The Persian word is, in turn, derived from the Sanskrit word C&#299;na (&#2330;&#2368;&#2344;), which was used as a name for China as early as AD 150. There are various scholarly theories regarding the origin of this word. The traditional theory, proposed in the 17th century by Martino Martini, is that "China" is derived from "Qin" (&#31206;), the westernmost of the Chinese kingdoms during the Zhou Dynasty, or from the succeeding Qin Dynasty (221&#8211;206 BC). The word C&#299;na is used in two Hindu scriptures &#8211; the Mah&#257;bh&#257;rata of the 5th century BC and the Laws of Manu of the 2nd century BC &#8211; to refer to a country located in the Tibetan-Burman borderlands east of India.
 
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^ I can understand 70% of the national anthem easily, yet when Farsi is being spoken I don't understand even the simplest words. So while the anthem might be Persianised Urdu, it's certainly not Farsi



Yes, I'm sure they are Farsi words, but they are also Urdu words.
I mean, what alternative words to we have for "pak" and "stan".

By the way, did you guys know in Hindi Pakistan can be called Shuddhrashtra? lol

rashtra was used for states...so shudha desha or perhaps shudhasthan is perfect
 
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Pakistan Formed with the Persian suffix "-
istan"
The Cambridge student and
Muslim nationalist Choudhary
Rahmat Ali coined this name. He
devised the word and first published it on 28 January 1933
in the pamphlet "Now or Never".
He constructed the name as an
acronym of the different states/
homelands/regions, which broke
down into: P=Punjab, A=Afghania (Ali's preferred
name for the Khyber
Pakhtunkhwa), K=Kashmir,
S=Sindh and the suffix -stan from
Balochistan, thus forming
"Pakstan". An "i" intruded later to ease pronunciation. The suffix
-stan in Persian means "home
of" and in Sanskrit means
"place". Rahmat Ali later
expanded upon this in his 1947
book Pakistan: the Fatherland of the Pak Nation. In that book he
explains the acronym as follows:
P=Punjab, A=Afghania,
K=Kashmir, I=Indus Valley,
S=Sindh, T=Turkharistan (roughly
the modern central-Asian states) , A=Afghanistan and
N=BalochistaN.



East Bengal/East Pakistan not being included this supposed elaboration/abbreviation has been frequently used in BD for anti-Pakistan propaganda.
 
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You are right about Sindhu.But the name India actually came from Persian were they called it Hindustan,then Greeks called it Indus as they couldn't spell h.
This is from an Indian site:

No, India didn't come from Persia. India is English word.
 
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No, India didn't come from Persia. India is English word.

Man i provided the source from your own country website.What are you trying to deny?Is it a shame for you if name India is originated in Persia?
 
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Yes, I have heard this as well. The word "Qin" was tranlisterated into Persian and became "Chin", which became China. :tup:

(In our own language though, we call our country "Zhong guo" which means the Middle Kingdom.)

you mean in chinese you dont use the word china??
 
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Why don't you understand all of the anthem?Is your language something other than Urdu?
You know better than me that Urdu borrows most of its vocabulary from Persian,so when we say Pak is Persian word,it doesn't contradict the fact that it is also an Urdu word.
In Pakistan anthem there is only one Hindi word '&#1705;&#1575;' while all the other words are Persian (Urdu).
I understand almost all the words and a good part of the meaning,but i have some difficulties to understand some other parts.

many persian words are also arabic origin,like salam etc, entirepersian letters are arabic origin

urdu derives many of its words from sanskrit and turkish language and not mostly from persians, urdu itself is a turkic word

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perso-Arabic_script
 
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Man i provided the source from your own country website.What are you trying to deny?Is it a shame for you if name India is originated in Persia?

the world hindu was derived from sanskrit word sindhu..which is original name of indus river...
 
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Man i provided the source from your own country website.What are you trying to deny?Is it a shame for you if name India is originated in Persia?

Dude, I already explained it... There is no shame, hell even Persia comes from the Greeks like India.

Indus-Indie-India-Indian-Indo, etc <---This part came from the Europeans(Greeks to French)
Sindhu-Hindu-Hind-Hindustan-Hindustani <---Bold part is Persian, Arabic, etc
Bharat <--- Indigenous

When the Old Persian travellers arrived in this area, they were no doubt fascinated by the topographical and geographical features of this beautiful land. When they translated &#8220;Sindhu&#8221; into their own tongue, the &#8220;s&#8221; became an &#8220;h&#8221; in line with

India is a European word. Hindu, Hind, etc is Persian, Arabic, etc.


If you replace "India" with "Hindustan" then you are correct.
 
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