Liquid Fuel Ramjet (LFRJ) engine based DRDO's new missile project, the Supersonic Target (STAR).to be developed into Anti-AWACS AAM

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DRDO has been carrying out Research and Development to develop a missile based on the LFRJ (Liquid Fuel Ramjet) Engine for STAR (Supersonic TARget), a target missile capable of hitting Mach 2.5 speed to help surface warship crews practice how to detect and defeat incoming supersonic anti-ship missiles. STAR can be launched from the ground and ships using a Catapult-launched system and has a range of 55-175km with RCS of 0.2-1.9m2 and a shelf life of 10 years.

DRDO also has plans to develop air-launched variants of STAR (Supersonic TARget) that can be used as Anti-AWACS and Anti-Radiation missiles for the entire Tejas Mk1A and Mk2 fleet. idrw.org has been told that the baseline STAR variant is already at prototype stages and likely will be tested later this year.


Baseline STAR uses a booster in the first stage and then moves to Liquid Fuel Ramjet (LFRJ) engine in the second stage to simulate sea-skimming cruise missiles by flying faster than twice the speed of sound and as low as 12 feet off the surface of the ocean. The target missile also can simulate high-altitude cruise missile attacks that plunge at ships from higher than 30,000 feet.

While little is known about the present status of the Air launched Anti-AWACS and Anti-Radiation missile variant of the STAR under development, it is claimed that it will be a low-cost option to engage slow-moving airborne force multipliers at a longer range than using the more expensive Astra Mk3 that are powered by Solid Fuel Ducted Ramjet (SFDR) motor.

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[ni8mare]

STAR​

Also

Astra MK3 - 340 km LRAAM​

 

[Skull and Bones]

So many projects going on currently.

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

So many projects going on currently.

All BS talk, zero action.

 

[Black Tornado]

All BS talk, zero action.

We ain’t as efficient as neutrals

 

[SQ8]

We ain’t as efficient as neutrals

Take my like .. just take it

So they made a bigger Akash?

Why make an AEW killer for the Tejas?

What has the poor MKI done(or not done) to be second fiddle to the Tejas?

 

[Paro_Peagus]

Take my like .. just take it

So they made a bigger Akash?

Why make an AEW killer for the Tejas?

What has the poor MKI done(or not done) to be second fiddle to the Tejas?

Firstly Tejas is the smallest jet in the inventory if that can carry it so can other jets.

Secondly tactics, tejas will be on caps always in the future. CAP designated aircrafts launch a sudden assault on the awacs forcing it to evade and drop to lower altitudes turning the enemy blind for few minutes while the strike packages take to the air getting into formations. Those few minutes change the outcome of the war.

And its no where close to akarsh btw.

@Joe Shearer

 

[SQ8]

Firstly Tejas is the smallest jet in the inventory if that can carry it so can other jets.

Secondly tactics, tejas will be on caps always in the future. CAP designated aircrafts launch a sudden assault on the awacs turning the enemy blind for few minutes while the strike packages take to the air getting into formations.

@Joe Shearer

Very poor tactics then - your CAP aircraft isn’t to be used for OCA in general. If they are being used for it then they are part of the offensive force package because with the payload restrictions that will happen with two of these on a Tejas means it will best up for another 20 minutes at best.

I can prove it too by adding a simulated STAR on a Tejas trying to cover for an offensive package.
Chances are the “drive off the AEW” by two aircraft on CAP fails miserably but this time it will actually show up with “proof”

 

[Joe Shearer]

All BS talk, zero action.

Oh, good! After a long time - too long - another one of the Ready-Shoot-Aim faction.

 

[Paro_Peagus]

Very poor tactics then - your CAP aircraft isn’t to be used for OCA in general. If they are being used for it then they are part of the offensive force package because with the payload restrictions that will happen with two of these on a Tejas means it will best up for another 20 minutes at best.

I can prove it too by adding a simulated STAR on a Tejas trying to cover for an offensive package.
Chances are the “drive off the AEW” by two aircraft on CAP fails miserably but this time it will actually show up with “proof”

How about we try a similar tactic in a future wargame. I could prove it to work if I could simulate the strike timings accurately.

FYI what I just mentioned actually worked against the Soviets in Vietnam and Iraqis in the first gulf war. Different aircraft & different radar ground systems.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Take my like .. just take it

So they made a bigger Akash?

Why make an AEW killer for the Tejas?

What has the poor MKI done(or not done) to be second fiddle to the Tejas?

Firstly Tejas is the smallest jet in the inventory if that can carry it so can other jets.

Secondly tactics, tejas will be on caps always in the future. CAP designated aircrafts launch a sudden assault on the awacs forcing it to evade and drop to lower altitudes turning the enemy blind for few minutes while the strike packages take to the air getting into formations. Those few minutes change the outcome of the war.

And its no where close to akarsh btw.

@Joe Shearer

To be honest, I don't like what is happening to the Tejas. It smells like specification creep. It should have been an easy to produce, light, cheap, quickly adaptable by young pilots entering service, and able to do simple interception, point interception at that, without the weakness of the predecessor MiG21 that relied so heavily on ground control. Its AESA radar is great, a good step forward; if it has, in addition, a couple - not more - of good air-to-air missiles, for WVR and BVR use respectively, it should be left alone to do that and nothing more.

Combat Air Patrol is precisely what it should be doing. Giving it other tasks - like using the MiG21, a classic point interceptor, for ground attack - will completely obfuscate its main objective, to keep enemy aircraft far from the assets under guard.

Perhaps I don't understand very well, but shaping this Maruti 800 among fighters as an AWACS killer is a big mistake.

The tactics described are probably capable of improvement. The SU30 should be the candidate AWACS killer.

How about we try a similar tactic in a future wargame. I could prove it to work if I could simulate the strike timings accurately.

FYI what I just mentioned actually worked against the Soviets in Vietnam and Iraqis in the first gulf war. Different aircraft & different radar ground systems.

Sounds good.

Our chief of the Air Force (in the war game) used it as an escort, and it worked well, although the Tejas is a short-legged plane (like its predecessor. the MiG21).

Let's try it.

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

Firstly Tejas is the smallest jet in the inventory if that can carry it so can other jets.

Secondly tactics, tejas will be on caps always in the future. CAP designated aircrafts launch a sudden assault on the awacs forcing it to evade and drop to lower altitudes turning the enemy blind for few minutes while the strike packages take to the air getting into formations. Those few minutes change the outcome of the war.

And its no where close to akarsh btw.

@Joe Shearer

To be honest, I don't like what is happening to the Tejas. It smells like specification creep. It should have been an easy to produce, light, cheap, quickly adaptable by young pilots entering service, and able to do simple interception, point interception at that, without the weakness of the predecessor MiG21 that relied so heavily on ground control. Its AESA radar is great, a good step forward; if it has, in addition, a couple - not more - of good air-to-air missiles, for WVR and BVR use respectively, it should be left alone to do that and nothing more.

Combat Air Patrol is precisely what it should be doing. Giving it other tasks - like using the MiG21, a classic point interceptor, for ground attack - will completely obfuscate its main objective, to keep enemy aircraft far from the assets under guard.

Perhaps I don't understand very well, but shaping this Maruti 800 among fighters as an AWACS killer is a big mistake.

The tactics described are probably capable of improvement. The SU30 should be the candidate AWACS killer.


Sounds good.

Our chief of the Air Force (in the war game) used it as an escort, and it worked well, although the Tejas is a short-legged plane (like its predecessor. the MiG21).

Let's try it.

Old tactics of the 20th Century.

Takeout AWACS with ADS

Takeout ADS with Drones

Takeout Drones with MANPADs

I think you get the drift...

 

[Skull and Bones]

Old tactics of the 20th Century.

Takeout AWACS with ADS

Takeout ADS with Drones

Takeout Drones with MANPADs

I think you get the drift...

Take out MANPAD with a sniper.

Take out sniper with machine gun fire.

Take out Machine gun with an RPG.

Take out RPG with an assault rifle.

Take out assault rifle with a handgun.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Takeout Drones with MANPADs

Drones munitions out range MANPADs

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

Drones munitions out range MANPADs

Just takeout the command centers using suicide drones.