Libya And Bahrain: A Tale Of Western Hypocrisy

[Vinod2070]

Well, China did NOT use the veto, so what is the issue here?

The BRIC nations all abstained from the vote.

I'm sure the Arab league had a lot to do with it. Realpolitik, etc.

I know this.

But doesn't it show the hollowness of some claims?

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

I know this.

But doesn't it show the hollowness of some claims?

Perhaps, but opinions are so subjective anyway.

In my personal opinion, I think Gaddafi sounds insane. And I don't know whether this UN resolution will make things better or worse.

 

[Veritas]

I know this.

But doesn't it show the hollowness of some claims?

They just need a reason to bash US, if a dog dies down the street, they cannot resist themselves to blame US bombing Bagdad and Tripoli.

 

[Vinod2070]

Perhaps, but opinions are so subjective anyway.

In my personal opinion, I think Gaddafi sounds insane. And I don't know whether this UN resolution will make things better or worse.

That guy always seemed like a buffoon to me. If they get rid of him, no one will really miss him, only may be his antics.

The way this idiot is changing statements like a chameleon is funny. One day he claims to fight Islamists, the next day he claims this is a war on Islam.

He also made some funny statements on Islam taking over Europe. Not sure how much that contributed to the backlash in Europe.

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They just need a reason to bash US, if a dog dies down the street, they cannot resist themselves to blame US bombing Bagdad and Tripoli.

Same way some of our neighbors need a reason (in fact they don't even need a reason) to bash India.

If wishes were horses.....

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

That guy always seemed like a buffoon to me. If they get rid of him, no one will really miss him, only may be his antics.

The way this idiot is changing statements like a chameleon is funny. One day he claims to fight Islamists, the next day he claims this is a war on Islam.

He also made some funny statements on Islam taking over Europe. Not sure how much that contributed to the backlash in Europe.

Did you hear Gaddafi's letter that said Obama was "his son"? And that he would "always love him"?

Absolutely mental...

Link ->

 

[Vinod2070]

Did you hear Gaddafi's letter that said Obama was "his son"? And that he would "always love him"?

Absolutely mental...

Yep. I get the feeling that there will be some more funny statements before he goes down.

He is street smart and will try everything before he is kicked out.

My worry is, he won't hesitate in taking down Libya with him. He is absolutely ruthless and won't care how many go down if he can extend his regime for a day.

Scorched Earth policy at its worst!

Also, he probably thinks he can wait out the West. West has the attention span of a fly and will move on to the next thing when it comes.

All he has to do is to survive till that time, whatever it takes.

 

[Tigershark]

Libya unrest: West in 'medieval crusade' on Gaddafi, says Putin
REUTERS | Mar 21, 2011, 08.22pm IST

TRIPOLI: Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin said on Monday a UN resolution authorising military action in Libya resembled "mediaeval calls for crusades" after Western forces launched a second wave of air strikes. ( Russia PM Medvedev slams Putin's Libya comment )

As diplomatic tempers over the campaign flared, officials in Tripoli said a missile intended to kill Muammar Gaddafi had destroyed a building in his fortified compound, which was heavily bombed in 1986 by the Reagan administration.

"It was a barbaric bombing," said government spokesman Mussa Ibrahim, showing pieces of shrapnel that he said came from the missile. "This contradicts American and Western (statements) ... that it is not their target to attack this place."

There was no comment on the strike from attacking forces. In an appearance on Libyan television on Sunday, Gaddafi promised his enemies a "long war" after the UN-authorised intervention in the uprising against his 41-year rule of this oil producing north African desert state.

"The resolution is defective and flawed," said Russia's Putin, whose country did not use its power to veto the resolution at the United Nations. "It allows everything. It resembles mediaeval calls for crusades," Putin added.

 

[Tigershark]

So you are a P5, right? The deserving one, not the pretenders like others!

Why not use the veto and stop the BS? After all so many here make such tall claims about all these things.

Why didn't India vote yes to the motion? If you hate Gaddafi so much, live up to your own words and cast the vote. You're nothing more than hypocrites complaining in the PDF but can't do anything where it matters in the UNSC.

 

[Vinod2070]

Why didn't India vote yes to the motion? If you hate Gaddafi so much, live up to your own words and cast the vote. You're nothing more than hypocrites complaining in the PDF but can't do anything where it matters in the UNSC.

But we have no permanent seat.

Some Chinese were bragging about being P5 and having veto. What happened?

 

[Tigershark]

The reason China did not veto is because we don't want to get involved in western crusades against muslim nations. If they didn't get UNSC, they'd move in with NATO. At least with the UN, non-western nations get a say in how the intervention is handled. Predictably, the western nations started bombing vehicles and infrasture when their only job was to enforce a no-fly zone. Civilians are dying. Why isn't India also bombing Libya, if you hate Gaddafi so much?

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But we have no permanent seat.

Some Chinese were bragging about being P5 and having veto. What happened?

What an ignorant comment. You have no idea how the UN works, or how the no-fly zone was voted on. If you want Gadaffi gone, why didn't you vote yes to the no-fly motion instead of abstaining?

 

[Vinod2070]

The reason China did not veto is because we don't want to get involved in western crusades against muslim nations. If they didn't get UNSC, they'd move in with NATO. At least with the UN, non-western nations get a say in how the intervention is handled. Predictably, the western nations started bombing vehicles and infrasture when their only job was to enforce a no-fly zone. Civilians are dying. Why isn't India also bombing Libya, if you hate Gaddafi so much?

What an ignorant comment. If you want Gadaffi gone, why didn't you vote yes to the no-fly motion instead of abstaining?

It is China which is the Superpower, the 2nd largest economy, the 5th gen. fighters and a great innovative industry.

Indian economy is not even in top 10.

Why look to India to take the lead?

You are a Superpower now. Why did you not threaten the Westerners to stop it or else?

 

[Tigershark]

It is China which is the Superpower, the 2nd largest economy, the 5th gen. fighters and a great innovative industry.

Indian economy is not even in top 10.

Why look to India to take the lead?

You are a Superpower now. Why did you not threaten the Westerners to stop it or else?

Now you're just goading me. You must be living in a fairy world to believe that BRIC or China is a superpower. China is not the superpower; the West is. Even though China believes that interfering in the affairs of another nation is immoral, it can do nothing to stop the superpowers hankering after a war in Libya. BRIC cannot stop the west militarily, the most they can do is condemn western aggression. That and seek to constrain their aggression by roping their intervention through the UN and not NATO. That's the reality of international politics. I'm surprised that a world-wise Indian like you doesn't understand it. That, or as I said, you're just in the forum to troll. Either way, I write this to set the record straight, because you seem not to understand how the world works.

 

[Vinod2070]

Now you're just goading me. You must be living in a fairy world to believe that BRIC or China is a superpower. China is not the superpower; the West is. Even though China believes that interfering in the affairs of another nation is immoral, it can do nothing to stop the superpowers hankering after a war in Libya. BRIC cannot stop the west militarily, the most they can do is condemn western aggression. That and seek to constrain their aggression by roping their intervention through the UN and not NATO. That's the reality of international politics. I'm surprised that a world-wise Indian like you doesn't understand it. That, or as I said, you're just in the forum to troll. Either way, I write this to set the record straight, because you seem not to understand how the world works.

Mate, I agree with you totally here.

It was just for some of your Chinese friends who believe otherwise. Let's move on.

 

[Tigershark]

Mate, I agree with you totally here.

It was just for some of your Chinese friends who believe otherwise. Let's move on.

Sorry I got upset. I genuinely believe that China is talking a principled position, and I got riled up when people implied otherwise.

 

[Tigershark]

India regrets air-strikes in Libya