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Liberals & Secularists: Pakistan's "Progressive" Cancer

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If the keyboard and internet become non-existent from tomorrow, I wouldn't give a damn about it, I will just accept it as a new reality of a constantly changing world.
 
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At the end of the day “man is a political animal” -Aristotle

The forces of secularism/liberalism and conservatism which in our case is usually Islam will always be there. these two opposing poles both have their adherents.

“War is a continuation of politics by other means” -Clausewitz

In for example Afghanistan these two poles have resulted in a civil war... In Iran they had their revolution 40 years ago, but the forces of liberalism are coming to the fore. Pakistan is no different, it just has to learn how to peacefully transition from one scale to the next otherwise there will be a civil war afoot if one side overstays it’s welcome and doesn’t allow for that peaceful transition.

There is no need for violence to occur, just allow for that peaceful transition to happen, even us in Afghanistan had there been no Soviet invasion, inevitably there would have been that transition, whether peaceful or violently. The central Asian republics are also experiencing this phenomenon, but over there dictators are brutally crushing dissent, they can’t carry it on for long...
 
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Mohsin Dawar of PTM is not a liberal,
he is a Fascist, an ethno-fascist
 
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even us in Afghanistan had there been no Soviet invasion

I don't want to be off-topic in this thread but in Afghanistan did the Soviets invade ( like NATO invaded Iraq and Libya ) or did the Soviets just come in to assist a brotherly government ??
 
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I don't want to be off-topic in this thread but in Afghanistan did the Soviets invade ( like NATO invaded Iraq and Libya ) or did the Soviets just come in to assist a brotherly government ??

I’ll ask you a question... Do you think the Soviets by sending commandos along wit their Afghan communist allies to murder the elected President and then taking power made them legitimate?
 
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I don't want to be off-topic in this thread but in Afghanistan did the Soviets invade ( like NATO invaded Iraq and Libya ) or did the Soviets just come in to assist a brotherly government ??

phir agaye tum nach gana karne. seedhi zaban samajh nahi ati?
 
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Liberals & Secularists: Pakistan's "Progressive" Cancer

We are at war, we’ve been at war with this evil, destructive ideology espoused by both foreign and domestic enemies who are so self loathing and lack all common sense they have shamelessly continued to push their misinformation campaign since the 30s attempting to brainwash our people and Muslims in surrounding regions into abandoning our culture and faith to weaken our resolve, dissolve our glorious nation or prevent the rise of independent Muslim states.

As the Quran states in Surah 5:51

“O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you - then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people.”

Truer words have never been spoken and thank Allah (swt) for the Muslim League that liberated our lands from the British Raj and for giving Jinnah the sense not to listen to Hindus like Ghandi and Nehru.

Unfortunately, we have a self proclaimed “progressive” liberal menace that hates the very existence of Pakistan like Professor Hoodbhoy whose disinformation campaign was in full swing during a speech he gave at Adab Festival at the Karachi Arts Council this year:

Our founding fathers like Allama Iqbal made it clear through the Allahabad Address:

“India is a continent of human groups belonging to different races, speaking different languages, and professing different religions [...] Personally, I would like to see thePunjab, North-West Frontier Province, Sindh and Baluchistan amalgamated into a single state. Self-government within the British Empire, or without the British Empire, the formation of a consolidated North-West Indian Muslim State appears to me to be the final destiny of the Muslims, at least of North-West India.
Sir Muhammad Iqbal
29 December 1930
Chaudhary Rehmat Ali in his pamphlet “Now or Never: Are we to perish or live forever?” published in 1933 reconfirmed Iqbal and the Muslim League stance stating

"all those five Provinces [Punjab, NWFP, Kashmir, Sindh, Balochistan] should have a separate Federation of their own outside India... we are entitled to ask our delegates for what purpose we are being pressed to sacrifice our nationality [Pakistan] and to submit ourselves and our prosperity to non-Muslim domination"
https://www.indiaofthepast.org/images/pdf/1930s/now_or_never.pd

Jinnah put the final nail in the coffin confirming the two nation theory stating:

"It is a dream that the Hindus and Muslims can ever evolve a common nationality... Hindus and Muslims belong to two different religious philosophies, social customs and literary traditions. They neither intermarry nor eat together, and indeed they belong to two different civilizations which are based mainly on conflicting ideas and conceptions."
- Mohammed Ali Jinnah 23 March 1940

And we have a host of speeches made by Jinnah where he makes it very clear that Pakistan would be an “Islamic State” based on the principles of “Islamic Socialism not other -isms”, made by Muslims for Muslims in which the laws would “[not] be in conflict with Shariat Laws”.

it’s clear that Jinnah and the Muslim League were never confused about their agenda or goals post 1930.

However the Muslim League demand wasn’t for Muslims of what was colloquially referred to as India to come to or be a single nation with Pakistan as confirmed by Iqbal and Chaudhry Rehmat Ali but instead Muslims were urged to forge their own independent states:

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Contrary to professor Hoodbhoy's beliefs Bangladesh’s independence didn’t negate the Two Nation Theory, particularly considering it didn’t rejoin India, instead it reverted Pakistan to the original proposition made by the Muslim League.

So we can only conclude that either these mentally deranged “liberals” are confused about Pakistan’s history or are engaged in outright malicious misinformation campaigns.
Hoodbhoy, like his liberal secular cohorts, refused to even address the ongoing genocides against Muslims in India with the latest large scale incident being the indiscriminate violence we saw in New Delhi, one of three occurring in the city historically since independence, instead launching into a disinformation tirade. They’re even attacking secularism now, in defence of Hindu’s onslaught against Muslims in India, such as Arif Ajakia a non-violent, self proclaimed human rights activist campaigning for media and religious freedoms in Pakistan:
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Let us pray that the Muslims in the collective occupation known as the secular Republic of India have the wherewithal to fight for their freedom and achieve Azadi as do the Sikhs, Tamils, etc... in opposition to this liberal secular hindu menace that seeks to keep them imprisoned and brainwashed to the dangers they face and embroils then in a future war against Pakistan.

Pakistan, despite its economic woes and a belligerent, miserable Hindu menace next door, is still the happiest nation in South Asia as confirmed by the 2019 “Happiness Index”:


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Why are liberals so keen on destroying Pakistan and making us as miserable as they are?

Despite studies confirming that increased multiculturalism brings misery why does our government placate to the whims of Sikhs, Hindus and liberals (ex. Sheikh Abdullah in the distant past and Hoodhboy today) who opposed Pakistans creation and now seek to undermine our national identity and Islamic way of life by pushing absurd narratives and attempting to have our peoples fight one another?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/happiness_formula/5012478.stm

Our people must stand resolute and ever vigilant against this disinformation campaign.

For all their rhetoric about being “progressive” (a new label these shameless people use for themselves to push their false narrative) they are anything but continuing to push completely regressive ideas in the public space.

For example, liberals within the Aurut March like Ismat Shah Jahan of the ANP openly oppose Islam citing it as the reason for rapes:

Then you have other ardent campaigners keen on pushing homosexuality onto and within Pakistan despite the fact that the US’ own government states:

"Gay and bisexual men are the population most affected by HIV... Gay and bisexual men accounted for 69% of all HIV diagnoses in the United States and 86% of diagnoses among males."
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https://www.hiv.gov/hiv-basics/overview/data-and-trends/statistics

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https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/statistics/overview/ataglance.html

Years earlier liberals like PTM leader Mohsin Dawar were cheering on the murder of our civilians, violation of Pakistan’s sovereignty and territorial Integrity, through their tacit support of American drone strikes, but now pretend to champion the cause of our peoples terrorized by them in Khyber Pukthoonkwa:

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American atrocities in Pakistan becomes more apparent with the UN now openly confirming that in 2019 the US and puppet Afghan governments forces, with their far more sophisticated armaments including pin point accurate missiles, were responsible for the majority of civilian deaths in Afghanistan:

UNAMA attributed 52 per cent of all civilian casualties to AGEs, with 38 per cent attributed to Taliban”
https://unama.unmissions.org/un-urges-parties-heed-call-afghans-zero-civilian-casualties

From the PTM denouncing the Taliban, heroes of all Muslims and Afghanistan, as terrorists for fighting for an Afghanistan free of foreign occupation attempting to degrade their struggle as a mere extension of Pakistan’s ISI:

Now this sick liberal menace except they lost and some cheer on peace with the hope it keeps their foreign installed puppets in power:

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Others admittedly not so much and once again use disinformation to destroy a hard earned peace:

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Note: ISIL claimed responsibility for the attack, the Taliban denied any responsibility and it never made sense to blame them and denounce the peace agreement when the Taliban themselves wanted “intra Afghan talks” meaning they made it a point to talk with all sides including Abdullah Abdullah not just Ghani and his puppet government.
https://www.thechronicleherald.ca/n...al-leader-abdullah-unharmed-spokesman-420181/

Our corrupt former self avowed liberal PM Nawaz Sharif whose office barred any negative news against India at the cost of our people on and our land of Kashmir for personal gain, wanted to give India MFN status at the continued cost of our economy and now hides himself in the UK after being given permission to leave by the PTI government on health grounds is just another example of this regressive, hateful anti Pakistan agenda being pushed by these deplorable people with no love for our nation.

Irrespective of the fact that Secularism has brought nothing but misery to the people of the world particularly Muslims with some notable examples being:

Burma's 1974 and now Myanmar's 2008 constitution are secular but that hasn't stopped the persecution and mass murder of Muslims in the country

Yugoslavia had a secular constitution in 1963 but that didn't stop the Bosnian genocide.

The USSR's constitution of 1936 & 1977 were secular but that didn't stop them from mass murdering millions including the genocide enacted via “Operation Lentil” as deemed by the International Criminal Court and its later invasion of the sovereign nation of Afghanistan that followed the soviet orchestrated assassination of Afghanistan's former dictator Hafizullah Amin leading to the death of over 1 million Muslims.

The US had a secular constitution since independence but that didn't stop what could possibly be the world's worst genocide via the extermination of the native population during which they employed rape and biological warfare (ex. blankets laced with polio) to wipe them out. Not to mention the internment of Japanese-American citizens, slavery and later apartheid as well as its ongoing wars against Muslims in Afghanistan and Iraq resulting in the murders of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians.
Irregardless of the facts these sick degenerates continue to push for it.

Enough is enough!

These people need to be stripped of our nationality and our government must not allow public spaces for their continued disinformation campaign. They cannot be loyal to the Islamic Republic of Pakistan so there is no need for the Islamic Republic of Pakistan to accommodate them and their degeneracy.

We must never allow the Sheikh Abdullahs who sided and worked with deplorable Hindus like Ghandi and Nehru turning both occupied Kashmir and India into the worlds largest open air prison for Muslims to do the same in Pakistan.
"Burma's 1974 and now Myanmar's 2008 constitution are secular"

Myanmar or Burma was never secular and will never be Secular. Buddhism has been given special place in the Burmese constitution of 2008. The reason Myanmar does not have state religion because Buddhism does now allow it. Also we Buddhists are proud of it
 
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