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Liberals & Secularists: Pakistan's "Progressive" Cancer

We are at war, we’ve been at war with this evil, destructive ideology espoused by both foreign and domestic enemies who are so self loathing and lack all common sense they have shamelessly continued to push their misinformation campaign since the 30s attempting to brainwash our people and Muslims in surrounding regions into abandoning our culture and faith to weaken our resolve, dissolve our glorious nation or prevent the rise of independent Muslim states.

As the Quran states in Surah 5:51

“O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you - then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people.”

Truer words have never been spoken and thank Allah (swt) for the Muslim League that liberated our lands from the British Raj and for giving Jinnah the sense not to listen to Hindus like Ghandi and Nehru.

Unfortunately, we have a self proclaimed “progressive” liberal menace that hates the very existence of Pakistan like Professor Hoodbhoy whose disinformation campaign was in full swing during a speech he gave at Adab Festival at the Karachi Arts Council this year:

Our founding fathers like Allama Iqbal made it clear through the Allahabad Address:

“India is a continent of human groups belonging to different races, speaking different languages, and professing different religions [...] Personally, I would like to see thePunjab, North-West Frontier Province, Sindh and Baluchistan amalgamated into a single state. Self-government within the British Empire, or without the British Empire, the formation of a consolidated North-West Indian Muslim State appears to me to be the final destiny of the Muslims, at least of North-West India.
Sir Muhammad Iqbal
29 December 1930
Chaudhary Rehmat Ali in his pamphlet “Now or Never: Are we to perish or live forever?” published in 1933 reconfirmed Iqbal and the Muslim League stance stating

"all those five Provinces [Punjab, NWFP, Kashmir, Sindh, Balochistan] should have a separate Federation of their own outside India... we are entitled to ask our delegates for what purpose we are being pressed to sacrifice our nationality [Pakistan] and to submit ourselves and our prosperity to non-Muslim domination"
https://www.indiaofthepast.org/images/pdf/1930s/now_or_never.pd

Jinnah put the final nail in the coffin confirming the two nation theory stating:

"It is a dream that the Hindus and Muslims can ever evolve a common nationality... Hindus and Muslims belong to two different religious philosophies, social customs and literary traditions. They neither intermarry nor eat together, and indeed they belong to two different civilizations which are based mainly on conflicting ideas and conceptions."
- Mohammed Ali Jinnah 23 March 1940

And we have a host of speeches made by Jinnah where he makes it very clear that Pakistan would be an “Islamic State” based on the principles of “Islamic Socialism not other -isms”, made by Muslims for Muslims in which the laws would “[not] be in conflict with Shariat Laws”.

it’s clear that Jinnah and the Muslim League were never confused about their agenda or goals post 1930.

However the Muslim League demand wasn’t for Muslims of what was colloquially referred to as India to come to or be a single nation with Pakistan as confirmed by Iqbal and Chaudhry Rehmat Ali but instead Muslims were urged to forge their own independent states:

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Contrary to professor Hoodbhoy's beliefs Bangladesh’s independence didn’t negate the Two Nation Theory, particularly considering it didn’t rejoin India, instead it reverted Pakistan to the original proposition made by the Muslim League.

So we can only conclude that either these mentally deranged “liberals” are confused about Pakistan’s history or are engaged in outright malicious misinformation campaigns.
Hoodbhoy, like his liberal secular cohorts, refused to even address the ongoing genocides against Muslims in India with the latest large scale incident being the indiscriminate violence we saw in New Delhi, one of three occurring in the city historically since independence, instead launching into a disinformation tirade. They’re even attacking secularism now, in defence of Hindu’s onslaught against Muslims in India, such as Arif Ajakia a non-violent, self proclaimed human rights activist campaigning for media and religious freedoms in Pakistan:
Secularist Human Rights Activitist Hates Secularism.jpg


Let us pray that the Muslims in the collective occupation known as the secular Republic of India have the wherewithal to fight for their freedom and achieve Azadi as do the Sikhs, Tamils, etc... in opposition to this liberal secular hindu menace that seeks to keep them imprisoned and brainwashed to the dangers they face and embroils then in a future war against Pakistan.

Pakistan, despite its economic woes and a belligerent, miserable Hindu menace next door, is still the happiest nation in South Asia as confirmed by the 2019 “Happiness Index”:


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Why are liberals so keen on destroying Pakistan and making us as miserable as they are?

Despite studies confirming that increased multiculturalism brings misery why does our government placate to the whims of Sikhs, Hindus and liberals (ex. Sheikh Abdullah in the distant past and Hoodhboy today) who opposed Pakistans creation and now seek to undermine our national identity and Islamic way of life by pushing absurd narratives and attempting to have our peoples fight one another?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/happiness_formula/5012478.stm

Our people must stand resolute and ever vigilant against this disinformation campaign.

For all their rhetoric about being “progressive” (a new label these shameless people use for themselves to push their false narrative) they are anything but continuing to push completely regressive ideas in the public space.

For example, liberals within the Aurut March like Ismat Shah Jahan of the ANP openly oppose Islam citing it as the reason for rapes:

Then you have other ardent campaigners keen on pushing homosexuality onto and within Pakistan despite the fact that the US’ own government states:

"Gay and bisexual men are the population most affected by HIV... Gay and bisexual men accounted for 69% of all HIV diagnoses in the United States and 86% of diagnoses among males."
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https://www.hiv.gov/hiv-basics/overview/data-and-trends/statistics

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https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/statistics/overview/ataglance.html

Years earlier liberals like PTM leader Mohsin Dawar were cheering on the murder of our civilians, violation of Pakistan’s sovereignty and territorial Integrity, through their tacit support of American drone strikes, but now pretend to champion the cause of our peoples terrorized by them in Khyber Pukthoonkwa:

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American atrocities in Pakistan becomes more apparent with the UN now openly confirming that in 2019 the US and puppet Afghan governments forces, with their far more sophisticated armaments including pin point accurate missiles, were responsible for the majority of civilian deaths in Afghanistan:

UNAMA attributed 52 per cent of all civilian casualties to AGEs, with 38 per cent attributed to Taliban”
https://unama.unmissions.org/un-urges-parties-heed-call-afghans-zero-civilian-casualties

From the PTM denouncing the Taliban, heroes of all Muslims and Afghanistan, as terrorists for fighting for an Afghanistan free of foreign occupation attempting to degrade their struggle as a mere extension of Pakistan’s ISI:

Now this sick liberal menace except they lost and some cheer on peace with the hope it keeps their foreign installed puppets in power:

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Others admittedly not so much and once again use disinformation to destroy a hard earned peace:

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Note: ISIL claimed responsibility for the attack, the Taliban denied any responsibility and it never made sense to blame them and denounce the peace agreement when the Taliban themselves wanted “intra Afghan talks” meaning they made it a point to talk with all sides including Abdullah Abdullah not just Ghani and his puppet government.
https://www.thechronicleherald.ca/n...al-leader-abdullah-unharmed-spokesman-420181/

Our corrupt former self avowed liberal PM Nawaz Sharif whose office barred any negative news against India at the cost of our people on and our land of Kashmir for personal gain, wanted to give India MFN status at the continued cost of our economy and now hides himself in the UK after being given permission to leave by the PTI government on health grounds is just another example of this regressive, hateful anti Pakistan agenda being pushed by these deplorable people with no love for our nation.

Irrespective of the fact that Secularism has brought nothing but misery to the people of the world particularly Muslims with some notable examples being:

Burma's 1974 and now Myanmar's 2008 constitution are secular but that hasn't stopped the persecution and mass murder of Muslims in the country

Yugoslavia had a secular constitution in 1963 but that didn't stop the Bosnian genocide.

The USSR's constitution of 1936 & 1977 were secular but that didn't stop them from mass murdering millions including the genocide enacted via “Operation Lentil” as deemed by the International Criminal Court and its later invasion of the sovereign nation of Afghanistan that followed the soviet orchestrated assassination of Afghanistan's former dictator Hafizullah Amin leading to the death of over 1 million Muslims.

The US had a secular constitution since independence but that didn't stop what could possibly be the world's worst genocide via the extermination of the native population during which they employed rape and biological warfare (ex. blankets laced with polio) to wipe them out. Not to mention the internment of Japanese-American citizens, slavery and later apartheid as well as its ongoing wars against Muslims in Afghanistan and Iraq resulting in the murders of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians.
Irregardless of the facts these sick degenerates continue to push for it.

Enough is enough!

These people need to be stripped of our nationality and our government must not allow public spaces for their continued disinformation campaign. They cannot be loyal to the Islamic Republic of Pakistan so there is no need for the Islamic Republic of Pakistan to accommodate them and their degeneracy.

We must never allow the Sheikh Abdullahs who sided and worked with deplorable Hindus like Ghandi and Nehru turning both occupied Kashmir and India into the worlds largest open air prison for Muslims to do the same in Pakistan.
 
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But you lot have no problem with Indian liberals and secularists?!!
 
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Liberals & Secularists: Pakistan's "Progressive" Cancer

We are at war, we’ve been at war with this evil, destructive ideology espoused by both foreign and domestic enemies who are so self loathing and lack all common sense they have shamelessly continued to push their misinformation campaign since the 30s attempting to brainwash our people and Muslims in surrounding regions into abandoning our culture and faith to weaken our resolve, dissolve our glorious nation or prevent the rise of independent Muslim states.

As the Quran states in Surah 5:51

“O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you - then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people.”

Truer words have never been spoken and thank Allah (swt) for the Muslim League that liberated our lands from the British Raj and for giving Jinnah the sense not to listen to Hindus like Ghandi and Nehru.

Unfortunately, we have a self proclaimed “progressive” liberal menace that hates the very existence of Pakistan like Professor Hoodbhoy whose disinformation campaign was in full swing during a speech he gave at Adab Festival at the Karachi Arts Council this year:

Our founding fathers like Allama Iqbal made it clear through the Allahabad Address:

“India is a continent of human groups belonging to different races, speaking different languages, and professing different religions [...] Personally, I would like to see thePunjab, North-West Frontier Province, Sindh and Baluchistan amalgamated into a single state. Self-government within the British Empire, or without the British Empire, the formation of a consolidated North-West Indian Muslim State appears to me to be the final destiny of the Muslims, at least of North-West India.
Sir Muhammad Iqbal
29 December 1930
Chaudhary Rehmat Ali in his pamphlet “Now or Never: Are we to perish or live forever?” published in 1933 reconfirmed Iqbal and the Muslim League stance stating

"all those five Provinces [Punjab, NWFP, Kashmir, Sindh, Balochistan] should have a separate Federation of their own outside India... we are entitled to ask our delegates for what purpose we are being pressed to sacrifice our nationality [Pakistan] and to submit ourselves and our prosperity to non-Muslim domination"
https://www.indiaofthepast.org/images/pdf/1930s/now_or_never.pd

Jinnah put the final nail in the coffin confirming the two nation theory stating:

"It is a dream that the Hindus and Muslims can ever evolve a common nationality... Hindus and Muslims belong to two different religious philosophies, social customs and literary traditions. They neither intermarry nor eat together, and indeed they belong to two different civilizations which are based mainly on conflicting ideas and conceptions."
- Mohammed Ali Jinnah 23 March 1940

And we have a host of speeches made by Jinnah where he makes it very clear that Pakistan would be an “Islamic State” based on the principles of “Islamic Socialism not other -isms”, made by Muslims for Muslims in which the laws would “[not] be in conflict with Shariat Laws”.

it’s clear that Jinnah and the Muslim League were never confused about their agenda or goals post 1930.

However the Muslim League demand wasn’t for Muslims of what was colloquially referred to as India to come to or be a single nation with Pakistan as confirmed by Iqbal and Chaudhry Rehmat Ali but instead Muslims were urged to forge their own independent states:

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Contrary to professor Hoodbhoy's beliefs Bangladesh’s independence didn’t negate the Two Nation Theory, particularly considering it didn’t rejoin India, instead it reverted Pakistan to the original proposition made by the Muslim League.

So we can only conclude that either these mentally deranged “liberals” are confused about Pakistan’s history or are engaged in outright malicious misinformation campaigns.
Hoodbhoy, like his liberal secular cohorts, refused to even address the ongoing genocides against Muslims in India with the latest large scale incident being the indiscriminate violence we saw in New Delhi, one of three occurring in the city historically since independence, instead launching into a disinformation tirade. They’re even attacking secularism now, in defence of Hindu’s onslaught against Muslims in India, such as Arif Ajakia a non-violent, self proclaimed human rights activist campaigning for media and religious freedoms in Pakistan:
View attachment 625374

Let us pray that the Muslims in the collective occupation known as the secular Republic of India have the wherewithal to fight for their freedom and achieve Azadi as do the Sikhs, Tamils, etc... in opposition to this liberal secular hindu menace that seeks to keep them imprisoned and brainwashed to the dangers they face and embroils then in a future war against Pakistan.

Pakistan, despite its economic woes and a belligerent, miserable Hindu menace next door, is still the happiest nation in South Asia as confirmed by the 2019 “Happiness Index”:


View attachment 625375

Why are liberals so keen on destroying Pakistan and making us as miserable as they are?

Despite studies confirming that increased multiculturalism brings misery why does our government placate to the whims of Sikhs, Hindus and liberals (ex. Sheikh Abdullah in the distant past and Hoodhboy today) who opposed Pakistans creation and now seek to undermine our national identity and Islamic way of life by pushing absurd narratives and attempting to have our peoples fight one another?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/happiness_formula/5012478.stm

Our people must stand resolute and ever vigilant against this disinformation campaign.

For all their rhetoric about being “progressive” (a new label these shameless people use for themselves to push their false narrative) they are anything but continuing to push completely regressive ideas in the public space.

For example, liberals within the Aurut March like Ismat Shah Jahan of the ANP openly oppose Islam citing it as the reason for rapes:

Then you have other ardent campaigners keen on pushing homosexuality onto and within Pakistan despite the fact that the US’ own government states:

"Gay and bisexual men are the population most affected by HIV... Gay and bisexual men accounted for 69% of all HIV diagnoses in the United States and 86% of diagnoses among males."
View attachment 625382
https://www.hiv.gov/hiv-basics/overview/data-and-trends/statistics

View attachment 625383
https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/statistics/overview/ataglance.html

Years earlier liberals like PTM leader Mohsin Dawar were cheering on the murder of our civilians, violation of Pakistan’s sovereignty and territorial Integrity, through their tacit support of American drone strikes, but now pretend to champion the cause of our peoples terrorized by them in Khyber Pukthoonkwa:

View attachment 625385

American atrocities in Pakistan becomes more apparent with the UN now openly confirming that in 2019 the US and puppet Afghan governments forces, with their far more sophisticated armaments including pin point accurate missiles, were responsible for the majority of civilian deaths in Afghanistan:

UNAMA attributed 52 per cent of all civilian casualties to AGEs, with 38 per cent attributed to Taliban”
https://unama.unmissions.org/un-urges-parties-heed-call-afghans-zero-civilian-casualties

From the PTM denouncing the Taliban, heroes of all Muslims and Afghanistan, as terrorists for fighting for an Afghanistan free of foreign occupation attempting to degrade their struggle as a mere extension of Pakistan’s ISI:

Now this sick liberal menace except they lost and some cheer on peace with the hope it keeps their foreign installed puppets in power:

View attachment 625388

Others admittedly not so much and once again use disinformation to destroy a hard earned peace:

View attachment 625389
Note: ISIL claimed responsibility for the attack, the Taliban denied any responsibility and it never made sense to blame them and denounce the peace agreement when the Taliban themselves wanted “intra Afghan talks” meaning they made it a point to talk with all sides including Abdullah Abdullah not just Ghani and his puppet government.
https://www.thechronicleherald.ca/n...al-leader-abdullah-unharmed-spokesman-420181/

Our corrupt former self avowed liberal PM Nawaz Sharif whose office barred any negative news against India at the cost of our people on and our land of Kashmir for personal gain, wanted to give India MFN status at the continued cost of our economy and now hides himself in the UK after being given permission to leave by the PTI government on health grounds is just another example of this regressive, hateful anti Pakistan agenda being pushed by these deplorable people with no love for our nation.

Irrespective of the fact that Secularism has brought nothing but misery to the people of the world particularly Muslims with some notable examples being:

Burma's 1974 and now Myanmar's 2008 constitution are secular but that hasn't stopped the persecution and mass murder of Muslims in the country

Yugoslavia had a secular constitution in 1963 but that didn't stop the Bosnian genocide.

The USSR's constitution of 1936 & 1977 were secular but that didn't stop them from mass murdering millions including the genocide enacted via “Operation Lentil” as deemed by the International Criminal Court and its later invasion of the sovereign nation of Afghanistan that followed the soviet orchestrated assassination of Afghanistan's former dictator Hafizullah Amin leading to the death of over 1 million Muslims.

The US had a secular constitution since independence but that didn't stop what could possibly be the world's worst genocide via the extermination of the native population during which they employed rape and biological warfare (ex. blankets laced with polio) to wipe them out. Not to mention the internment of Japanese-American citizens, slavery and later apartheid as well as its ongoing wars against Muslims in Afghanistan and Iraq resulting in the murders of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians.
Irregardless of the facts these sick degenerates continue to push for it.

Enough is enough!

These people need to be stripped of our nationality and our government must not allow public spaces for their continued disinformation campaign. They cannot be loyal to the Islamic Republic of Pakistan so there is no need for the Islamic Republic of Pakistan to accommodate them and their degeneracy.

We must never allow the Sheikh Abdullahs who sided and worked with deplorable Hindus like Ghandi and Nehru turning both occupied Kashmir and India into the worlds largest open air prison for Muslims to do the same in Pakistan.

I don't know why Pakistan's state is tolerating these open traitors of our land. These people are investing our media, academics, entertainment industry, and so on. Being "soft" while a backward, inferiority-complex stricken Hindu nazi regime is rising to your East will lead us to path of subjugation.

Pakistan establishment needs to come hard on these ideological terrorists. But then again, these bunch are from elitist, rich backgrounds with connections to businessmen, media tycoons, foreign NGOs, and military high command (Brigs, Generals etc). So nothing happens to them :)

So pathetically sad and infuriating....
 
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Anyone who does not accept Pakistans existence is the enemy.

Muslims were massacred on a genocidal scale and instead of acknowledging how much hate the hindutva has for muslims, these khanzeers attack the state of Pakistan.

I have no problem with people arguing about what type of system of governance Pakistan should or should not have, how many provinces etc , but attacking Pakistans founder and the state is treason.

Quaid e azam was clear he wanted islamic socialism, but not a theocracy. His word are being twisted.
 
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Pakistan is a Muslim State. There is no doubt about that. Our problem and the main problem of the Islamic world is that we made our Mullahs like gods who can decide about wrong or right (there is a specific hadith about the same thing for Jews and Christians).

Islam is simple so keep it simple. No need for temples, holy men or megalomaniacs. If people could adhere to the 5 pillars (just do it!) and would try to be kind and helpful like our beloved prophet (PBUH) we would have excellency in all matters of our life!
 
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As the Quran states in Surah 5:51

“O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you - then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people.”

Then why did the mullah supporter Zia ul Haq take support of Christian governments of USA and Britain in destroying the Progressive Muslim government in Afghanistan ??
 
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Pakistan is a Muslim State. There is no doubt about that. Our problem and the main problem of the Islamic world is that we made our Mullahs like gods who can decide about wrong or right (there is a specific hadith about the same thing for Jews and Christians).

Islam is simple so keep it simple. No need for temples, holy men or megalomaniacs. If people could adhere to the 5 pillars (just do it!) and would try to be kind and helpful like our beloved prophet (PBUH) we would have excellency in all matters of our life!
Why have people failed so badly at it if it is such a perfect and simple system ?

Also, curious, what Islamic country is the best in terms of sticking to the religion and everything is great etc ?
 
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Also, curious, what Islamic country is the best in terms of sticking to the religion and everything is great etc ?

Any socialist Muslim system generally.

For example, the Libyan Jamahiriya ( pre-2011 Libya ).
 
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Any socialist Muslim system generally.

For example, the Libyan Jamahiriya ( pre-2011 Libya ).
That was Islamic in name only. Same with Nasser's Egypt, the religious muslims were always opposed to that style of system, Syria too, where half the people don't even consider the ruling Alawites as muslim.
 
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Why have people failed so badly at it if it is such a perfect and simple system ?

Also, curious, what Islamic country is the best in terms of sticking to the religion and everything is great etc ?
It is that simple. Adhere to the pillars and be a kind person is basically the religion of Islam. But powerful people don’t like simple they want to complicate matters in order to rule over people! And yes, most people have never read the Quran like they supposed to do? Mullahs of the world have the audacity to say that a laymen will go „gumrah“ if he reads and researches for himself. It’s simple but people make it hard for nonsensical reasons!

I am not a 200% fanboy of a specific state (including Pakistan!) and I will not tell you what Country is the Paradise on Earth. This is another problem. People think they must implement a superstate and call it Islamic in order to be good Muslims. The thing is as always: act local (start with the man in the mirror!) and think global. Stop being hateful and judgmental, start with yourself and lead by example!
 
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Then why did the mullah supporter Zia ul Haq take support of Christian governments of USA and Britain in destroying the Progressive Muslim government in Afghanistan ??
They wouldn't have succeeded without local Afghans (talibs) who were ready to fight to the death against the godless commies for sake of Islam.
 
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That was Islamic in name only. Same with Nasser's Egypt, the religious muslims were always opposed to that style of system

Islam in its spirit is Socialist and those you call religious ( like the Muslim Brotherhood movement in Africa ) did not understand that spirit and thought that Islam is just another way of prayer, ritual and a certain dress-code.

Syria too, where half the people don't even consider the ruling Alawites as muslim.

Tell me, do the Alawis, who are supposed to be a branch of the Shia sect, want a theocracy like in Iran ??

Secondly, the Syrian armed forces and government are composed of Sunnis and Christians too, and they are together fighting to retain the Ba'ath socialist system via nine years of war.

They wouldn't have succeeded without local Afghans (talibs) who were ready to fight to the death against the godless commies for sake of Islam.

The Taliban movement came after or towards the end of the war. Before that, the Afghan government's opponent fighters were the so-called Mujahideen ( a nice word but corrupted by that application ). And these fighters came from all over the world. And one of the main persons here was the Saudi national Osama bin Laden.

I once came upon an old copy of India Today magazine, from during that war, in which the reporter went into Pakistan and interviewed some Mujahideen. One fact that came out was that originally these people were scared of the Soviet Mi-24 helicopter gunships because they not only carried heavy armament and were armored, they also could carry limited numbers of soldiers who could be dropped off at say mountain-tops. It was only with Western supply to the terrorists of anti-aircraft missiles like the Stinger that the Mi-24 reduced being a great threat.
 
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Islam in its spirit is Socialist and those you call religious ( like the Muslim Brotherhood movement in Africa ) did not understood that spirit and thought that Islam is just another way of prayer, ritual and a certain dress-code.
That's your subjective perspective and the way you want it to be.

For sake of argument though, let's assume that the baathist/socialist style of governance was indeed true Islam. No terror/violence/suppression of women/equality for all.. Kurd style (some of them women fighters btw <3 !!!!!)

Why did all these systems fail ? It was muslims themselves living under those systems who rebelled and took to arms. If it was that great, surely the happy majority following the true deen would have crushed the reactionaries.

I respect your POV but just look around... and although there is no scientific way to prove it but I'd say upward of 90% of the global Muslim population will reject your ideas of what is the real and true religion.

How many on this forum agree with you ?

Tell me, do the Alawis, who are supposed to be a branch of the Shia sect, want a theocracy like in Iran ??

Secondly, the Syrian armed forces and government are composed of Sunnis and Christians too, and they are together fighting to retain the Ba'ath socialist system via nine years of war.
No, Saddam didn't want a caliphate either. Was his lifestyle Islamic ?

While we might support those Sunnis who fight for Asad, I certainly do. The majority of them oppose the ba'athist way. The majority would have picked arms and fought FOR the regime if it was otherwise.

The Taliban movement came after or towards the end of the war. Before that, the Afghan government's opponent fighters were the so-called Mujahideen ( a nice word but corrupted by that application ). And these fighters came from all over the world. And one of the main persons here was the Saudi national Osama bin Laden.
Osama bought money and a radical ideology to fight the godless commies, the foot soldiers were overwhelmingly locals at the time.

I once came upon an old copy of India Today magazine, from during that war, in which the reporter went into Pakistan and interviewed some Mujahideen. One fact that came out was that originally these people were scared of the Soviet Mi-24 helicopter gunships because they not only carried heavy armament and were armored, they also could carry limited numbers of soldiers who could be dropped off at say mountain-tops. It was only with Western supply to the terrorists of anti-aircraft missiles like the Stinger that the Mi-24 reduced being a great threat.
Yes, I've read a fair bit about conflicts in Afghanistan, both the Soviet and American wars.

You seen 'bitter lake' ? must have.. that was a good one.

Brezenski in that famous video clip with a bull horn egging on refugees to fight for Islam.

Why didn't they fight for a socialist 'true' Islam ?
 
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