LGBT People Fleeing Harassment in Iran Find Life No Easier in Turkey

[unrequitted_love_suzy]

believe me rich ones don't go to turkey only middle class and low income people choose turkey

precisely , rich people from iran only go to Ankara , to get their US/Canadian visas.

 

[Arian]

believe me rich ones don't go to turkey only middle class and low income people choose turkey

Yeah. Rich ones would go to Europe, Canada or the United States. The United States and Canada by far host the largest number of Iranians abroad. An upper-middle income family in Iran can easily buy real-estate properties in Turkey for really cheap prices compared to Tehran or Isfahan.

 

[Sifar zero]

I have heard many stories of Pakistani men claiming gay asylum in Western countries and then fu** white women there

I pity on the intellectual ability (or its lack thereof) of people who think that all the scientific and economical progress in Western countries is due to their degeneracies and that Pakistan will also become first world developed nation if sex, drugs, alcohol, nudity and LGBT becomes common here.

Man you are a legend.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

When this is truely your opinion and not one of your liberal stunts then why aren’t you deleting my post?

The post is about those specialists claiming that LBTQ support has a place in an Islamic country. But we should tolerate that like prostitution, alcoholism and aurat March because evil mullahs do bachabaazi right?

for some reason I am not surprised by your response.
may God have mercy on your soul and Bless your mother for bearing you.

 

[Muhammed45]

VOA news garbages.
Voice of America is always voice of gays and degenerates.

 

[T-SaGe]

Because you can buy a house in a good neighborhood of Istanbul for nearly one-fourth of what you'd pay for a house in an average neighborhood in Tehran. In the first quarter of 2021, Iranians have bought 2,000 houses in Turkey. Iranians continue to remain the first foreign buyers of real estate in Turkey apparently. Housing in Tehran and other big cities in Iran is very expensive compared to Turkey, Georgia, Armenia, etc.

There are many developing urban areas and building stocks in the surrounding districts of Istanbul. However, residing within the provincial borders of Istanbul does not really give the feeling that you are living in Istanbul. I live in literally the center of Istanbul. If you do not want to spend 2-4 hours a day on the road and you have a familyr, unfortunately, it is impossible to find good housing for less than $ 250,000.

This figures increases exponentially if your interest is about residing in iconic districts. Moreover, this is despite the post-Kovid period and dollar develuation. For example, even now, if you want to buy a 4-room house from Dragos district -which is 30 km from Istanbul strait but it is a good neighborhood in its area- you have to sacrifice around 1 million dollars. If you want Istanbul strait sea side, the numbers are incredibly exorbitant. The mansion line solding around tens of millions of dollars, while the houses on the hills and ridges cost millions...If you say I just need to be close to the subway line, and say it is not important that the district where I live is decent, the prices go down to normal levels. Developing districts such as Ümraniye, Sancaktepe, Çekmeköy may be an option.

IMO, if you do not think for long-term investment, property prices in Istanbul are unnecessarily expensive. Izmir and Antalya offer better opportunities in this respect.

 

[Arian]

There are many developing urban areas and building stocks in the surrounding districts of Istanbul. However, residing within the provincial borders of Istanbul does not really give the feeling that you are living in Istanbul. I live in literally the center of Istanbul. If you do not want to spend 2-4 hours a day on the road and you have a familyr, unfortunately, it is impossible to find good housing for less than $ 250,000.

This figures increases exponentially if your interest is about residing in iconic districts. Moreover, this is despite the post-Kovid period and dollar develuation. For example, even now, if you want to buy a 4-room house from Dragos district -which is 30 km from Istanbul strait but it is a good neighborhood in its area- you have to sacrifice around 1 million dollars. If you want Istanbul strait sea side, the numbers are incredibly exorbitant. The mansion line solding around tens of millions of dollars, while the houses on the hills and ridges cost millions...If you say I just need to be close to the subway line, and say it is not important that the district where I live is decent, the prices go down to normal levels.

IMO, if you do not think for long-term investment, property prices in Istanbul are unnecessarily expensive. Izmir and Antalya offer better opportunities in this respect.

Yeah, but it's still cheaper than many places in Tehran where 1 meter of housing in neighborhoods like Elahiyeh is already almost $5K and they're going higher month by month unfortunately. Some luxury houses in Tehran can cost over $10K per square meter, which is a lot of money by Iranian standards. And most apartments in Tehran are over 100 meters squared. $250K sounds good compared to that (although I have seen cheaper cases in Istanbul too), particularly when I see a lot of Iranians paying less than half the price as the first installment and pay the rest in long-term loans with low interest rate. I have seen cases where you pay about 30% of the price initially and pay the rest in 60 months. That's really attractive for upper middle-class people who cannot afford to buy a good house in Tehran.

And then there are places that Iranians choose only for vacations or a cosmopolitan experience like Alanya. I remember the mayor of Alanya freuqnelty visited Tehran to promote real-estate in Alanya and apparently Iranians and Russians are buying more real-estate properties in Alanya than any other foreign nationality. I remember someone told me once that real-estate in Alanya was priced in Euros instead of Turkish Lira, which made it somehow more attractive for investors that were worried about the devaluation of the Turkish currency.

 

[Goritoes]

I doubt there is any direct punishment prescribed in Quran for Gays, I think its matter of Shariah, not that I support them but i think killing them is not the solution.

 

[Stryker1982]

I doubt there is any direct punishment prescribed in Quran for Gays, I think its matter of Shariah, not that I support them but i think killing them is not the solution.

Gayness is a brain defect, and it can't be removed in society by any means because every time a new born arrives, their is a small chance his/her brain may develop to desire the same gender. It's gross but nothing can be done about it.

 

[Goritoes]

Gayness is a brain defect, and it can't be removed in society by any means because every time a new born arrives, their is a small chance his/her brain may develop to desire the same gender. It's gross but nothing can be done about it.

you didn't read my post didn't you ?

 

[xyxmt]

should have moved to India and get Indian citizenship, could even join their armed forces.

 

[Stryker1982]

you didn't read my post didn't you ?

I'm just adding something to the conversation....

 

[CatSultan]

 

[Mujahid Memon]

I doubt there is any direct punishment prescribed in Quran for Gays, I think its matter of Shariah, not that I support them but i think killing them is not the solution.

Gayness is a brain defect, and it can't be removed in society by any means because every time a new born arrives, their is a small chance his/her brain may develop to desire the same gender. It's gross but nothing can be done about it.

When medical science is so advanced that a man can literally be converted to a woman or vice versa why do you think that a simple hormonal imbalance cannot be cured.

 

[Goritoes]

When medical science is so advanced that a man can literally be converted to a woman or vice versa why do you think that a simple hormonal imbalance cannot be cured.

Gender is different from sexuality, Yes Biological Gender means something and so does Gender Dysphoria, but these days, dudes can just wake up one day, wear make up and girls clothes and they can easily enter Women bathroom and compete in Women sports and break records and no one can say otherwise, this is all BS, Being Gay is not Haram or having sexual urges towards same sex is also not haram, what is Haram when you act on your desires and urges, In Islam you are not a sinner for having urge for sin like Stealing, sex or adultery , murder but the moment you give up and Act on your urges and desire which means you let Satan win over you, and then you become sinner.